News Apple did the bare minimum because it doesn't care about you either

[AC News]

Because Apple and Google won't work together, the FBI says users should switch to a better messenger.

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[swinn]

Maybe someone should do a story about Verizon disabling RCS on all government contract lines a few months ago. Their excuse was that the government told them to. I'm surprised no news organizations ever picked it up.

 

[BaritoneGuy]

Because Apple and Google won't work together, the FBI says users should switch to a better messenger.

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Absolute nonsense. Google hacked the spec to do encryption. All encrypted RCS must pass through Google infrastructure. Do you really think Apple would go for this?

You are right about China being the final impetus for RCS which would require the messages to NOT pass through Google stuff as they don’t operate there.

Instead why don’t the folks push the RCS standards people to adopt encryption as part of the standard.

 

[obarthelemy]

Are you saying RCS messaging from a browser other than Chrome aren't encrypted ? Are you sure ?

Or are you just using "CHrome" to mean "a web browser", forgetting that others exist ?

 

[spARTacus]

From what I think I understand, all information/data exchanges between Google RCS Servers and any Google Messages App (and/or between/to any "Web Browser session for Google Messages" ) is secure and not at risk. And of course, any direct Google Messages App to Google Messages App information/data exchanges are also secure and not at risk (as is also any iMessaging App to iMessaging App data /information exchanges).

I am not even sure I fully understand what all the not secure aspects are about the current situation. Perhaps only the part about how carriers might currently facilitate/forward RCS data/information exchanges based on telephone number as key, for between Google RCS Servers and Apple iMessaging Servers, and/or for between their own or other carrier RCS Servers, and from that perspective perhaps no different than how carrier facilitated SMS/MMS messaging has similarly for years not been secure.

 

[mustang7757]

Are you saying RCS messaging from a browser other than Chrome aren't encrypted ? Are you sure ?

Or are you just using "CHrome" to mean "a web browser", forgetting that others exist ?

iPhone to Android RCS is not encrypted, Android to Android is .

 

[spARTacus]

iPhone to Android RCS is not encrypted, Android to Android is .

You mean not "end to end" (user to user) encrypted, correct?

From what I understand, the exchanges between app/client and carrier RCS servers is encrypted (or at least is for the Google Messages app).

Edit: ...and apparently, some carriers may also actually be using Google RCS servers as opposed to their own RCS servers (meaning for those there may also be another risk reduction in terms of what is being stated as "no security" for RCS).

 

[mustang7757]

You mean not "end to end" (user to user) encrypted, correct?

From what I understand, the exchanges between app/client and carrier RCS servers is encrypted (or at least is for the Google Messages app).

Edit: ...and apparently, some carriers may also actually be using Google RCS servers as opposed to their own RCS servers (meaning for those there may also be another risk reduction in terms of what is being stated as "no security" for RCS).

Yeah user to user between iPhone and Google messages

 

[gartysparty]

Absolute nonsense. Google hacked the spec to do encryption. All encrypted RCS must pass through Google infrastructure. Do you really think Apple would go for this?

You are right about China being the final impetus for RCS which would require the messages to NOT pass through Google stuff as they don’t operate there.

Instead why don’t the folks push the RCS standards people to adopt encryption as part of the standard.

It's to Apple's benefit to drag out the RCS encryption as long as possible, which is to wait for the GSMA to update the standard. There's no good reason to not adopt compatibility with Google's RCS version other than their preference to drag out the security advantages of iMessage as long as possible.

Did you know that Apple uses google cloud services for part of it's iCloud infrastructure and has since 2018? It's very easy to find sources about that on the internet. Apple is not above using Google to host services. Don't let your bias for Google's ad business get in the way of your understanding of how secure and popular their cloud services are.