Apple: Get A Life!!!

[JHBThree]

But the iPhone isn't about the specs. They don't advertise clock speed.

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That's what a lot of people miss when they shout 'but android has better specs!'.

Frankly, in comparison to the iPhone it doesn't matter. Why? Because the experience of the iPhone is still better than 95% of the android phones out there, because the software is so closely tied to the hardware. Now, you can get into discussions about the type of user experience, but the quality of that experience has rarely been matched by any android device. (the S2 was the first to match the smoothness and stability of the iPhone)

 

[Speedygi]

I'm sorry , but I have to disagree about hardware specs being unimportant. People who at least understands specs are going to see the Emperor's clothes, if, say, the new Iphone runs on a single core processor, regardless of the software.

Android phones have spoiled the industry...

 

[Ry]

I'm sorry , but I have to disagree about hardware specs being unimportant. People who at least understands specs are going to see the Emperor's clothes, if, say, the new Iphone still runs on a single core processor, regardless of the software.

Android phones have spoiled the industry...

Uh.. "still" runs on a single core processor?

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[Speedygi]

Basically they said specs aren't important for Apple, so it could be argued that if they stayed single core in the Iphone, nothing would have been sacrificed.

In essence it's contradictory, and flawed argument.

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[crackberrytraitor]

That's what a lot of people miss when they shout 'but android has better specs!'.

Frankly, in comparison to the iPhone it doesn't matter. Why? Because the experience of the iPhone is still better than 95% of the android phones out there, because the software is so closely tied to the hardware. Now, you can get into discussions about the type of user experience, but the quality of that experience has rarely been matched by any android device. (the S2 was the first to match the smoothness and stability of the iPhone)

Yeah, you know what else is smooth and stable? Old black and white dumb phones. But they have jack when it comes to features, which is why they are obsolete. Kind of like the IPhone. Software optimization only goes so far.

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[Speedygi]

Yeah, you know what else is smooth and stable? Old black and white dumb phones. But they have jack when it comes to features, which is why they are obsolete. Kind of like the IPhone. Software optimization only goes so far.

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Precisely...

 

[ugaco07]

Yeah, you know what else is smooth and stable? Old black and white dumb phones. But they have jack when it comes to features, which is why they are obsolete. Kind of like the IPhone. Software optimization only goes so far.

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That's where you're missing the point. The vast majority of smartphone users don't care about having a phone with a lot of customizable features (most couldn't figure out how to tweak everything even if they had that ability). What Apple has done with the iPhone is make something that has some juice behind it, which has enabled the jailbreaking community to do their thing, as well as out of the box simplicity for the average person. The fact that it ties in so well to the Mac platform is also a large selling point to those of us who aren't as technically advanced.

Apple will most likely never appeal to the most hardcore Android users, those who like to tweak every little detail about their phone and load up custom ROMs every other day. And that is fine. There is no one size fits all solution for smart phones. While you may prefer all that Android has to offer, there are plenty that love the fact that they can unpack an iPhone and have a simple device that has a very short acclimation period.

 

[dmmarck]

That's where you're missing the point. The vast majority of smartphone users don't care about having a phone with a lot of customizable features (most couldn't figure out how to tweak everything even if they had that ability). What Apple has done with the iPhone is make something that has some juice behind it, which has enabled the jailbreaking community to do their thing, as well as out of the box simplicity for the average person. The fact that it ties in so well to the Mac platform is also a large selling point to those of us who aren't as technically advanced.

Apple will most likely never appeal to the most hardcore Android users, those who like to tweak every little detail about their phone and load up custom ROMs every other day. And that is fine. There is no one size fits all solution for smart phones. While you may prefer all that Android has to offer, there are plenty that love the fact that they can unpack an iPhone and have a simple device that has a very short acclimation period.

Just one comment - I jailbroke my first gen iPad a few weeks ago, and while I think it's really cool, I don't think this type of process is even in the same league as Android with rooting, flashing, etc.

Shockingly, it's actually harder to get a grasp on what you're doing; you install these little packages, some/most of which create "apps," and through those you can theme, add neat little tricks, etc. But I was looking for some really heavy, integrated customization. Perhaps that was my fault; I was, in essence, looking for "roms." As far as I can tell you can't do that, and perhaps can't do anything like it--but who knows, it's such a confusing process to navigate Cydia with any sort of accuracy that I've given up on every occasion.

 

[JHBThree]

Just one comment - I jailbroke my first gen iPad a few weeks ago, and while I think it's really cool, I don't think this type of process is even in the same league as Android with rooting, flashing, etc.

Shockingly, it's actually harder to get a grasp on what you're doing; you install these little packages, some/most of which create "apps," and through those you can theme, add neat little tricks, etc. But I was looking for some really heavy, integrated customization. Perhaps that was my fault; I was, in essence, looking for "roms." As far as I can tell you can't do that, and perhaps can't do anything like it--but who knows, it's such a confusing process to navigate Cydia with any sort of accuracy that I've given up on every occasion.

Yeah there's no such thing as a ROM for iOS. Its just adding things that are available.

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[JHBThree]

Yeah, you know what else is smooth and stable? Old black and white dumb phones. But they have jack when it comes to features, which is why they are obsolete. Kind of like the IPhone. Software optimization only goes so far.

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You don't get it. The iPhone does 95% of what Android phones do, but the experience is better which is what matters (judging by sales numbers) to a majority of customers. If the iPhone was obsolete, its sales would be going down, not up.

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[dmmarck]

Yeah there's no such thing as a ROM for iOS. Its just adding things that are available.

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Yes, and that fact is highly unfortunate.

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[learntall]

To each his own... Android for me and no iPhone compares to my EVOLTE.

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[Mellimel22]

You don't get it. The iPhone does 95% of what Android phones do, but the experience is better which is what matters (judging by sales numbers) to a majority of customers. If the iPhone was obsolete, its sales would be going down, not up.

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Can u tether for free with a fruit phone? Can u overclock it to play video games smoothly (nes on to ps2) for free? Do I have to be locked down to itunes? Answer those questions and get back at me

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[sirheck]

I guess one could say that since iPhones can't really be rooted or
overclocked or customized like Android phones (locked down)
so to speak. Then iPhone is designed for people who don't like
change or challenges.......simple minded people, followers.

*******runs********

 

[crackberrytraitor]

You don't get it. The iPhone does 95% of what Android phones do, but the experience is better which is what matters (judging by sales numbers) to a majority of customers. If the iPhone was obsolete, its sales would be going down, not up.

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95%, lol. You must not have any idea how to utilize Android. And BlackBerry can do most of what an IPhone can do too, with even more stability and a greater ease of use. But it didn't offer enough. They stayed stable in their userbase for a few years too. If what you said was true, Android wouldn't have been able to seize such chunk of the market the way they have and with Apple having such a significant head start. If Apple was as good as Android, Android wouldn't exist.

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[varsityhacker]

95%, lol. You must not have any idea how to utilize Android. And BlackBerry can do most of what an IPhone can do too, with even more stability and a greater ease of use. But it didn't offer enough. They stayed stable in their userbase for a few years too. If what you said was true, Android wouldn't have been able to seize such chunk of the market the way they have and with Apple having such a significant head start. If Apple was as good as Android, Android wouldn't exist.

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BB is way behind in apps to the iphone, yes it can make calls and check the weather but people want more. That is why BB is in serious trouble and I don't think the next gen software is going to pull them out. For BB to survive they will need to expand to other handset makers like Android has. Android has been able to seize a large part of the market because of the abundance of manufactures, cheaper phones and the rapid expansion of the Play store. Very few people will pickup an Android phone because they can flash custom roms etc. Fact is the iPhone is a good phone it's stable (although not as much as people think, check the logs on an iphone and you will see what I mean) has a ton of apps and is supported by a strong eco-system.

 

[ugaco07]

Can u tether for free with a fruit phone? Can u overclock it to play video games smoothly (nes on to ps2) for free? Do I have to be locked down to itunes? Answer those questions and get back at me

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Yes, No, Yes

 

[ugaco07]

I guess one could say that since iPhones can't really be rooted or
overclocked or customized like Android phones (locked down)
so to speak. Then iPhone is designed for people who don't like
change or challenges.......simple minded people, followers.

*******runs********

Or..........people just don't care enough about the phone in their pocket to invest a lot of time in tinkering and tweaking it.

If that is your thing and it makes you happy....then more power to you. Don't really see any reason to look down at folks just because they want something easy to use.

 

[Ry]

Or..........people just don't care enough about the phone in their pocket to invest a lot of time in tinkering and tweaking it.

If that is your thing and it makes you happy....then more power to you. Don't really see any reason to look down at folks just because they want something easy to use.

Hilarious when Android users get an elitist attitude about Android - yet hate when iPhone users get all elitist.

You don't have to be a power user to enjoy your smartphone.

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[fernandez21]

Oh look, more litigation.

Apple hits HTC with third ITC dispute, One series goes under the gun -- Engadget