Are you going to upgrade to the Pixel 2?

[Aquila]

I'm going to buy one, the XL thought not the small one

 

[TheMarcus]

Once the phones are in the store to look at/hold/and fiddle with the decision will be much easier.

Oh, I know! I was super close to buying the Pixel XL last year, but ended up leaving with the V20. Once you're used to a removable battery, it's hard to give that up. Fortunately/unfortunately, I don't have any choice but to give up the removable battery this year.

 

[Orion78]

I simply can't wait for the XL. I need to retire my Nexus 6 already. I just hope Google can keep this on stock this time lol.

 

[anon(10274434)]

I simply can't wait for the XL. I need to retire my Nexus 6 already. I just hope Google can keep this on stock this time lol.

It should prove interesting to see how Google does with the order filling phase of the P2 - I hope they learned something from last year. Adding another manufacture to the mix may confuse it even more.

 

[Orion78]

It should prove interesting to see how Google does with the order filling phase of the P2 - I hope they learned something from last year. Adding another manufacture to the mix may confuse it even more.

Yeah I'm going to be ready. Anyone remember how quickly the Pixels were made to purchase on the play store after the announcement?

 

[Aquila]

Yeah I'm going to be ready. Anyone remember how quickly the Pixels were made to purchase on the play store after the announcement?

Same day, within an hour or two.

 

[Orion78]

Same day, within an hour or two.

Ok cool. Going for the 128GB but I hope they at least make a 64GB version.

 

[Bearded Tit]

99% certain to upgrade here too. Love my XL but front facing speakers and waterproofing will swing me. If they include some free wireless headphones as rumoured it will be 100%. My XL 128gb will be for sale at a good price soon .....

 

[vzwuser76]

Hoping the Pixel XL 2 has a large battery.

I had the regular Pixel since last November, and so far it's had better battery life than almost every phone that had a larger battery. The only one that had a larger battery and similar battery life was the old Droid Maxx, but iirc the best I got out of it was around 3.5hrs SOT (and only a few times did I get that). Whereas the regular Pixel with a 630mAh smaller battery manages 4hrs SOT regularly. Between the Droid Maxx and the Pixel I had the Droid Turbo 1&2 and the Nexus 6p, and even with larger batteries than the Droid Maxx (and MUCH larger batteries than the Pixel) they could never get as long an SOT.

Considering the reports of efficiency we're seeing from the SD835, and if they keep the 1080p resolution for the smaller Pixel, I think it should do well even if the keep the same battery size. Though I wouldn't turn down a larger battery either. If it was up to me, I'd have them double the phones thickness and put a larger battery inside.

 

[TheMarcus]

I had the regular Pixel since last November, and so far it's had better battery life than almost every phone that had a larger battery. The only one that had a larger battery and similar battery life was the old Droid Maxx, but iirc the best I got out of it was around 3.5hrs SOT (and only a few times did I get that). Whereas the regular Pixel with a 630mAh smaller battery manages 4hrs SOT regularly. Between the Droid Maxx and the Pixel I had the Droid Turbo 1&2 and the Nexus 6p, and even with larger batteries than the Droid Maxx (and MUCH larger batteries than the Pixel) they could never get as long an SOT.

Considering the reports of efficiency we're seeing from the SD835, and if they keep the 1080p resolution for the smaller Pixel, I think it should do well even if the keep the same battery size. Though I wouldn't turn down a larger battery either. If it was up to me, I'd have them double the phones thickness and put a larger battery inside.

A more efficient chip still doesn't account for different use scenarios or poor reception. That efficient chip means someone with average use and good signal will have their phone last all day. Meanwhile, I'd still have to rely on charging a few times throughout the day.

A bigger battery means I'd have a chance of going a full day with minimal or no charging while the guy with average use and good signal could likely have his phone not need to be charged until the next day.

So, yeah, I hope the Pixel XL 2 has a bigger battery. It's really annoying that OEM's strive for average battery life with their flagships just to be able to say it's thin.

 

[dsignori]

A more efficient chip still doesn't account for different use scenarios or poor reception.

Well, a more efficient chip is more efficient in every scenario compared to a less efficient chip - including the scenario you mentioned where one is in an area of poor reception.

Obviously variables like signal strength and screen brightness (an other factors like apps, etc) have a significant effect on battery life on all phones.

I agree with your overall point though, and I really want a bigger battery too (but after seeing the 3300mah v30 size today, I am not counting on it).

I think a clearer way of stating it is that 2 things will help every user in every scenario: (1) a more efficient chip, and (2) a bigger battery. Now if I could only have only one, of those 2 at this stage in the game I'd take the larger battery, as just about all modern chips are somewhat efficient IMO.

 

[TheMarcus]

Well, a more efficient chip is more efficient in every scenario compared to a less efficient chip - including the scenario you mentioned where one is in an area of poor reception.

Obviously variables like signal strength and screen brightness (an other factors like apps, etc) have a significant effect on battery life on all phones.

I agree with your overall point though, and I really want a bigger battery too (but after seeing the 3300mah v30 size today, I am not counting on it).

I think a clearer way of stating it is that 2 things will help every user in every scenario: (1) a more efficient chip, and (2) a bigger battery. Now if I could only have only one, of those 2 at this stage in the game I'd take the larger battery, as just about all modern chips are somewhat efficient IMO.

I'm with you 100%.

Having used extended batteries in the past, I have zero issue with a thicker phone. It's a shame we don't have that option. Only option for a flagship with a large battery is the S8 Active, but I don't want a Samsung phone. Too many horror stories about the performance not holding up.

 

[dsignori]

I'm with you 100%.

Having used extended batteries in the past, I have zero issue with a thicker phone. It's a shame we don't have that option. Only option for a flagship with a large battery is the S8 Active, but I don't want a Samsung phone. Too many horror stories about the performance not holding up.

I too agree completely. I would so gladly sacrifice 1 or 2mm of thickness to gain 500 or 700Mah more in battery. I suspect most people would, but I realize that is not at all what the manufacturers think customers want unfortunately.

 

[Aquila]

I too agree completely. I would so gladly sacrifice 1 or 2mm of thickness to gain 500 or 700Mah more in battery. I suspect most people would, but I realize that is not at all what the manufacturers think customers want unfortunately.

For 2 MM extra thickness I would want a 40% increase in battery, assuming similar battery dimensions to the last removable battery that I had. If it's 3,450 mAh now, in order to get 2 mm thicker I would want 4,830 mAh minimum. Because 2 MM thicker on the battery itself is a 40% larger battery. I would never ever ever make the trade of thicker for only 700 mAh more, because that's device that's a much more difficult to hold and handle, for only another 1 hour of SOT, give or take based on your usage. If the Pixel XL went from 8.5 mm to 10.5 mm thick, we should be wanting a 5 Ah battery to justify that bulk. IMO

 

[dsignori]

@Aquila I don't care about thinness anymore. Though I agree that over 10mm is a bit too thick. But short of that, I am fine with it and would love the extra battery.

 

[Ca_lvn]

Will the Pixel 2 Xl be offered in a unlocked version?

 

[GTvert90]

Will the Pixel 2 Xl be offered in a unlocked version?

Bootloader unlocked or carrier unlocked?

 

[Aquila]

Will the Pixel 2 Xl be offered in a unlocked version?

Yes

 

[Ca_lvn]

Bootloader unlocked or carrier unlocked?

Carrier unlocked

 

[GTvert90]

Carrier unlocked

Almost certainly