Are you OK with the knowledge that your N6 has its performance crippled by up to 80%?

[DeathWolf00]

I really love the nexus 6 coming from a Galaxy s3 and my gf asked me to pick a phone for her to get and she said she loves how blazing fast it is and wouldn't think of trading it for the iPhone 6.
I have faith google will fix the performance with future updates since it needs to utilize the snapdragon's encryption module better, and the first update to the phone certainly brought it up to a good level of performance. If this phone gets any faster I will be plenty happy. It should be interesting to see the x64 architecture in action next year, but for now this phone will definitely suit my needs for 2-4 years with a major step up in call quality and speed from my old phones.
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[nickacs]

Yea, that's great some hacker/developer over on XDA figured out how to disable/get around it, but IMO, that's useless. NO one should be forced into rooting their phone to get around some Google/OS issues. Hopefully enuf schtink will get back to Google and maybe they will have an update in the future for ALL users.

 

[tk-093]

I know this is a Nexus 6 forum, but thought this would be the best place to pose this question.

Encryption is not enabled if you get a push update to lollipop, but what happens if you do a hard reset after getting that update. Will it be enabled during setup?

 

[LaTuFu]

I want pure Android, and won't deal with Touchwiz. But, push comes to shove, the Note is the better phone at 6PM if the N6 is out of juice. And, screen quality be damned, I expect I'll be getting the Turbo after giving the N6 a trial when mine comes. I won't carry batteries and chargers through airports, and I refuse to use a pay phone if I have to get a cab when I get where I'm going.

The "TW sucks" mantra is pretty overblown with the Note 4. I've been pretty surprised at how efficient Samsung made it this time around.

I completely support anyone that has gotten used to pure Android and wants to keep it that way. And the N6 is a pretty sweet looking phone, so I don't blame anyone that chooses it.

But going with the N6 just because someone is still holding on to the "TW sucks" tour poster they got signed in 2011 is pretty short sighted. They cut themselves out of the chance to use a pretty decent rock solid device.

Glad to hear that the overall impressions of the N6 are positive. It is a great looking phone.

 

[theduder]

What would be really nice is if Google made a factory image available that's not encrypted. Sure it's a tacit admission that Android isn't ready for FDE but that's pretty obvious at this point. Android is about -CHOICE- isn't it?

Motorola provided Ars with an unencrypted image for their follow-up testing.

 

[Mooem]

Honestly, I haven't noticed any slow downs coming from my Nexus 5. *shrugs* The only real issue is the camera taking long to load at times.

 

[rdalcanto]

On XDA they are already removing encryption, and on benchmarks, it becomes the fastest phone to date, blowing the Note 4 out of the water. Wug is making a tool kit on the XDA Nexus 6 Android Development section that will do it all for you. As soon as that is up, I'm going to unlock, root, and un-encrypt. I will let you know how much faster the phone actually feels. In the meantime, you can make the phone feel faster by speeding up the animations by going into Developer Options and changing the animation scale from 1 to .5x.

 

[Benjamin_NYC]

I certainly cannot dispute the fact that you have "slow downs" if you are experiencing them, I along with many others have not. I understand you THINK it is associated with encryption but do you have any logs or other proof? I have not experienced a single "slow down" since getting my phone and I know others have not either. Sounds to me like you have an app that is causing it, or an app that doesn't like being encrypted, or an app that doesn't like ART or something app specific. Lollipop in general seems perfectly fine with encryption.

Lastly, for the record, I believe there should be a way to disable it - if anything in the developer options or something. It can be enabled by default sure, but should have a mechanism in place to decrypt. All I'm trying to say is that encryption is not crippling this phone by 80%, or even more than 5-10% IMO, in daily use.

Agree nowhere near 80%. Maybe 5% IME.

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[Benjamin_NYC]

Honestly, I haven't noticed any slow downs coming from my Nexus 5. *shrugs* The only real issue is the camera taking long to load at times.

Which is called a slow down

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[maverick7526]

Which is called a slow down

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The google camera has always been crap. Even with top of line specs it's slow.

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[Mooem]

Which is called a slow down

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Only on initialization. If the slower camera initialization were a result of the encryption, then I haven't noticed that same issue anywhere else yet.

Phone performs fine for me. It also performed fine when I had encryption enabled on the Nexus 5. I'm not saying its not an issue for others BTW.

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[lildj0809]

Rooting your phone and disabling an imp security measure is like removing airbags from your car because the manufacturer didn't make them work properly, and then claiming that your car is fine.

I know I can't speak for everyone, such as the doctor who needs FDE for his job. But personally I have been doing fine without FDE for years. And I'm pretty content moving forward without it.

An air bag will save your life. FDE? Not so essential.

 

[Benjamin_NYC]

I know I can't speak for everyone, such as the doctor who needs FDE for his job. But personally I have been doing fine without FDE for years. And I'm pretty content moving forward without it.

An air bag will save your life. FDE? Not so essential.

Agree. They really need to give us the option to disable. Probably not going to happen through.

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[gmermel]

I completely support anyone that has gotten used to pure Android

But going with the N6 just because someone is still holding on to the "TW sucks" tour poster they got signed in 2011 is pretty short sighted.

I've been with Motorola since the original droid. And even then, I moved to custom launchers within my first month. Something as simple as not being able to set an odd number of columns and rows because I don't like an "unbalanced" distribution. Add to that the fact Blur has dwindled to practically non-existant, and my year with the N7, and, yeah, I want to stick with what I know.

I didn't say TW sucked, and to be fair, have looked at the Note BECAUSE of the good things I've read about it recently. However, I'm not "married" to the idea of a phablet. My first priority is battery life. If the N6 doesn't meet my needs, I'll go with the smaller phone rather than switch over to TW. Everything, as we all know, is a compromise.......

 

[Wingznut]

Agree. They really need to give us the option to disable. Probably not going to happen through.

Oh, if enough people make enough noise, I could see it happening.

 

[LaTuFu]

I've been with Motorola since the original droid. And even then, I moved to custom launchers within my first month. Something as simple as not being able to set an odd number of columns and rows because I don't like an "unbalanced" distribution. Add to that the fact Blur has dwindled to practically non-existant, and my year with the N7, and, yeah, I want to stick with what I know.

I didn't say TW sucked, and to be fair, have looked at the Note BECAUSE of the good things I've read about it recently. However, I'm not "married" to the idea of a phablet. My first priority is battery life. If the N6 doesn't meet my needs, I'll go with the smaller phone rather than switch over to TW. Everything, as we all know, is a compromise.......

I hear ya on the compromise.

Definitely give the Note 4 consideration if you are disappointed with the 6.

I've been amazed at the battery life so far. I was expecting similar performance to past devices due to the increased size. I have been (happy to say) completely wrong about that assumption.

 

[rdalcanto]

Well, I removed encryption on my son's phone and kept it on mine. We ran AnTuTu Benchmark and they were nearly the same. He was around 51,000, and I was around 50,000. We then closed everything, and opened different things simultaneously. Camera, photo gallery, phone, Chrome, etc. No visible difference between the two phones. I don't think encryption is actually slowing the phone down. There is a post on XDA where someone did a large number of different bench marks, and he also saw no real difference. If anything, he found the numbers to be slightly better on the encrypted phone. Not worth removing encryption and either missing OTA updates because you're rooted, or having to setup the phone again each time if the update forces encryption again. At least not IMHO....

 

[N4Newbie]

^^^ Finally, a voice of reason.

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[obi5683]

Wouldn't it be great if Lollipop didn't have so much white in the design, eating up the battery? I would like the invert colors quick setting to actually just invert black and white. A dark theme would be nice.

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[benhaube]

Wow. What a pointless thread.