AT&T bought T-Mobile us

[NEO_FOLLOWER2]

personally
i havent had a problem with tmobile and i will miss them leaving
but i read somewhere...im too lazy to find the link
but if you search a little
tmobile made a statement that they will honor any contracts already made

so im hoping the next nexus phone for tmobile will come out before this att tmobile deal goes through

so i can sign a 2 yr contract and be grandfathered into unlmt data and low pricing

if att decides to pull the plug on tmobile pricing
im sure theyll allow to cancel without paying the ETF

this deal wont be done for another 10-12 ish months which is right around the time a new nexus is due for release...so iuno how thi is going to play out

i just want a nexus dual core with unlmted data and cheap( im paying 65 a month(no contract) for 500mins+unlmt txt+ unlmtd data)

 

[Baconator]

I think this merger is going to help the AT&T network. They might even, in the future, have a far better coverage area than Verizon.

 

[ls377]

Your article says they are the same. My article says that android users use more bandwidth. Let's give you the benefit of the doubt and say they are the same. VZW's network has been able to handle android users since the platform has come out. It has also been able to handle the iphone since they got it a few months ago. It's clearly a superior network on average nationwide at this point. I really don't understand how anyone can argue otherwise.

"iPhone and Android users are about evenly matched in their data usage, typically consuming between 40 to 60 percent more than an iPhone 3G user. The percentages vary based on device model and when looking at uploads versus downloads, but the general trends are the same for the two platforms. Android users tend to connect to data services more often than iPhone users, but their total bandwidth usage was generally the same. That suggests Android users' data activities are shorter or less bandwidth-oriented."

There's the key.

Verizon hasn't gotten to is full iPhone load yet. Most people are waiting for their current contract to expire, or are waiting for the iPhone 5.

 

[Baconator]

personally
i havent had a problem with tmobile and i will miss them leaving
but i read somewhere...im too lazy to find the link
but if you search a little
tmobile made a statement that they will honor any contracts already made

so im hoping the next nexus phone will come out before this att tmobile deal goes through

so i can sign a 2 yr contract and be grandfathered into unlmt data and low pricing

if att decides to pull the plug on tmobile pricing
im sure theyll allow to cancel without paying the ETF

It was here in the Q&A

 

[Baconator]

There's the key.

Verizon hasn't gotten to is full iPhone load yet. Most people are waiting for their current contract to expire, or are waiting for the iPhone 5.

Exactly. Once the newer iPhone is out and people are out of their contract Verizon will be like AT&T was.

 

[krazy]

There's the key.

Verizon hasn't gotten to is full iPhone load yet. Most people are waiting for their current contract to expire, or are waiting for the iPhone 5.

No, the total bandwidth is the same and that's all that matters. If anything, if your article is true, the iphone would be less taxing on a network because they use it more often therefore you have less people using it at any given time.

 

[krazy]

Exactly. Once the newer iPhone is out and people are out of their contract Verizon will be like AT&T was.

Why? VZW's network has handled androids just fine. People think that the iphone is the magical network killer simply because AT&T's network is awful.

 

[krazy]

I think this merger is going to help the AT&T network. They might even, in the future, have a far better coverage area than Verizon.

Don't hold your breathe

 

[ls377]

No, the total bandwidth is the same and that's all that matters. If anything, if your article is true, the iphone would be less taxing on a network because they use it more often therefore you have less people using it at any given time.

Android users use bandwidth in shorter spurts. It's like getting a burst of static every second, compared to a steady stream of static.

 

[Baconator]

Well all I know is that it will be easier for AT&T to switch to LTE than Verizon. Right?

 

[ls377]

Why? VZW's network has handled androids just fine. People think that the iphone is the magical network killer simply because AT&T's network is awful.

But we don't have a non-iPhone AT&T to compare it to. AT&T was fine before the iPhone.

Verizon hasn't had nearly as many Androids as AT&T had iPhones.

 

[krazy]

Android users use bandwidth in shorter spurts. It's like getting a burst of static every second, compared to a steady stream of static.

Even if this is true, which i doubt (see my article), if the shorter spurts add up to the longer spurts (or is greater) it's irrelevant at best and is harder on the network at worst because you have more people on the network at any given time and are having to deal with people constantly connecting and disconnecting to it.

 

[krazy]

But we don't have a non-iPhone AT&T to compare it to. AT&T was fine before the iPhone.

Verizon hasn't had nearly as many Androids as AT&T had iPhones.

There was effectively no android before the iphone therefore nothing tested AT&T's network. VZW handled all of their android's fine and now they are handling androids + the iphone just fine. I really don't understand why anyone is arguing with me on this point. VZW's network is vastly superior to AT&T's right now and they are ahead of them when it comes to LTE. Perhaps AT&T will magically turn this around and end up on top but that remains to be seen and is years away.

 

[krazy]

Well all I know is that it will be easier for AT&T to switch to LTE than Verizon. Right?

What do you mean switch to LTE? VZW doesn't have to switch they already have it up and running in their major markets.

 

[ls377]

Even if this is true, which i doubt (see my article), if the shorter spurts add up to the longer spurts (or is greater) it's irrelevant at best and is harder on the network at worst because you have more people on the network at any given time and are having to deal with people constantly connecting and disconnecting to it.

Yeah got my argument reversed lol. Iphone users have the sudden burts of static, which combined with every other iPhone user would clog up the network.

 

[krazy]

Yeah got my argument reversed lol. Iphone users have the sudden burts of static, which combined with every other iPhone user would clog up the network.

His article says just the opposite. That android users connect for shorter periods but their total bandwidth equals the iphone users.

 

[ls377]

There was effectively no android before the iphone therefore nothing tested AT&T's network. VZW handled all of their android's fine and now they are handling androids + the iphone just fine. I really don't understand why anyone is arguing with me on this point. VZW's network is vastly superior to AT&T's right now and they are ahead of them when it comes to LTE. Perhaps AT&T will magically turn this around and end up on top but that remains to be seen and is years away.

That was also a 4 year younger and less built out AT&T network (coming out of a similar merger from Cingular and AT&T).

 

[ls377]

His article says just the opposite. That android users connect for shorter periods but their total bandwidth equals the iphone users.

My metaphor is flawed, the constant static should be many shorter but less intense bursts.

 

[krazy]

That was also a 4 year younger and less built out AT&T network (coming out of a similar merger from Cingular and AT&T).

You're just making excuses for why they are weaker. There may be plenty of reasons why AT&T's network sucks but the fact remains it does in fact suck. Meanwhile VZW has not has issues with android and not it does not have issues with android + iphone. It is also at least a year ahead of AT&T in terms of what really matters going forward: LTE. Perhaps AT&T will be able to make up being behind VZW by a year all while integrating a $40B merger. I have my doubts that they'll be able to do this while VZW continues to move forward itself but we'll see.

 

[BryanTheRed]

Krazy, I sure hope you know more about investing than you do mobile networks. You'll see what a boost this ends up being for AT&T.