battery drain, oreo, mobile network standby

[Android Central Question]

Have just bought Moto E5 play.
After charging last night, saw this morning that charge had dropped to 88%.
Saw that mobile network standby was the offender, used 11%. Other systems had used very small amount of battery.

 

[belodion]

Is your signal good?
https://r.tapatalk.com/shareLink?sh...tral.com/showthread.php?t=409154&share_type=t

 

[GeordieMick2]

Yes good mobile signal. At home, good wifi and mobile data was turned off. data saver on and background data off for all apps.
Ive seen that others have this problem with Oreo.
No battery drain when airplane mode is on.

 

[GeordieMick2]

I posted this yesterday on WAZE forum, but no response. Its really an android question.

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New phone Moto E5 play
I use a smartphone PAYG -Asda (EE) to use when travelling (mostly using WiFi) and for WAZE.
Primary phone is a dumb phone.

In a couple of hours of getting the Moto, it gobbled data even tho it was at home on WiFi. Most of the time with mobile data toggled off.
Next day Carphone warehouse shop where i got phone said impossible to use data with mobile data off.

Rang Asda today and they said they could see the phone was trying to connect even tho mobile data was turned off and wifi on with strong signal at home. They said this is possible; they could see the phone was trying to connect, and advised me to turn off background data for individual apps-

Background data
enable usage of mobile data in background

Asda said this would stop data being used.
So I did this for all apps including WAZE, play store and google play services.

Then went for a drive having planned a drive on WAZE on WiFi, and no problem.
But when I chose home on WAZE to return (mobile data ON), Waze went dead so I had to switch on mobile data in background for WAZE and then it worked ok.

So questions: 1) Do other apps especially google play services need this background data on.
2) What does this mean in relation to WAZE:
Unrestricted data usage
allow unrestricted data access when Data Saver is on
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I'd put on a data usage app, and this showed 6MB data used, but Asda said my account did not show this- my balance was going up and down by several pence as the phone was attempting to connect, and each time the phone data use app would record this as data used although it wasnt.

 

[Rukbat]

"mobile network standby" is the power your phone uses to maintain contact with the tower when you'r not using the phone. If that's high, you have a weak signal from that carrier - if there's another carrier with a stronger signal, you should switch. (Use LTE Discovery to find out.)

In a couple of hours of getting the Moto, it gobbled data even tho it was at home on WiFi.

That would be normal if EE had some updates.

Next day Carphone warehouse shop where i got phone said impossible to use data with mobile data off.

Normally it is.

So I did this for all apps including WAZE, play store and google play services.

Then went for a drive having planned a drive on WAZE on WiFi, and no problem.
But when I chose home on WAZE to return (mobile data ON), Waze went dead so I had to switch on mobile data in background for WAZE and then it worked ok.

Waze has to get the location (latitude and longitude) of where you're going, an it needs to get online to do that. If you weren't near a public wifi, it would have to use mobile data.

So questions: 1) Do other apps especially google play services need this background data on.

Some. Maps, for instance, does the same thing WAZE does, but you can ut your locations into MyDirections. It keeps their lat/lon, then sends that to Maps when you tell it to navigate - so no data, no wifi.

2) What does this mean in relation to WAZE:

It means that WAZE is always going to use data.

I'd put on a data usage app, and this showed 6MB data used, but Asda said my account did not show this- my balance was going up and down by several pence as the phone was attempting to connect

To what? A phone number? A web address?

and each time the phone data use app would record this as data used although it wasnt.

If an app was trying to connect to a web address, it was using data. Just transmitting "connect me to X" uses data.

 

[GeordieMick2]

I should have said that Asda = Walmart. EE is the major network in UK. I live in a city and mobile data signal is strong.

My concern now is the battery drain by the Mobile Network Standby. This occurs when on wifi with mobile data turned off.
I just wonder whats happening. It does not happen on airplane mode.

I believe I now see the initial data use matter (It would not normally be apparent to anyone with a data contract as the amount is relatively small 80MB, but I have a pay as you go SIM so that cost me four pounds. Now updates are thru Wifi.)

I'd put on a data usage app, [after the initial 80MB] and this showed 6MB data used, but Asda said my account did not show this- my balance was going up and down by several pence as the phone was attempting to connect

To what? A phone number? A web address?

Asda couldn't say, just that it was happening. This was when I was on wifi, mobile data off.

Could it be that its to do with how google collects and transmits its data; I understand that happens even with no SIM card.

Do other apps especially google play services need this background data on
Does google play services need this mobile background data On to function.

 

[GeordieMick2]

All battery use is Mobile Network Standby.
Phone had strong wifi and strong mobile data signal.
Makes no difference if mobile data is on or off.