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Yes I think it is 1620 mah and I think that's kinda small unless its second Gen. Lte because a 1620 mah battery will not be able to power LTE and a HD screen through the day.
 

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I think the weak battery is a consession for the kickstand on the TBolt. I don't see that mistake being repeated. As handy as it is, I would almost rather have a 1700+ mAh battery...

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I think the weak battery is a consession for the kickstand on the TBolt. I don't see that mistake being repeated. As handy as it is, I would almost rather have a 1700+ mAh battery...

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Ya I would rather have a battery that last me all day or a longer time that a phone that has a Kickstand with a smaller battery like you said a Kickstand is helpful but its not that improtant.
 

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Yes I think it is 1620 mah and I think that's kinda small unless its second Gen. Lte because a 1620 mah battery will not be able to power LTE and a HD screen through the day.
It's a second gen HTC LTE device but it will not have second gen LTE hardware. Second gen hardware won't be available to manufacturers til 2012.
 

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I bet you htc will put a stupidly small battery in it. No larger than 1400. And it will require bump charging.

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They damn well better offer a higher capacity same size battery for this. They had them for the evo and my touch 4g, but didn't make any for any of their new devices.


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You have to except the fact that at least for the next few years, you will have to buy an extended battery or charge the 4GLTE phones throughout the day. I bought one for my tbolt, and i love it. It honestly feels good in your hands. You get used to the look. :)
 

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I can see the same battery life as the bolt with a 1650 mah battery. Great.....

It depends. First of all, the battery is a good amount bigger. Second of all, it has a completely different processor, and we don't know what LTE modem it has. They've also had a lot more real-world time to fine tune the software with the vigor, so it's not going to have as many of the flaws that the thunderbolt had.

At worst, I'd say it will have battery life comparable to the charge.


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Second of all, it has a completely different processor, and we don't know what LTE modem it has.

FCC filing appears to indicate that the processor is the dual-core Snapdragon and the LTE modem is the Qualcomm MDM9600, very similar to the single-core Snapdragon and LTE modem in the Thunderbolt.
 

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FCC filing appears to indicate that the processor is the dual-core Snapdragon and the LTE modem is the Qualcomm MDM9600, very similar to the single-core Snapdragon and LTE modem in the Thunderbolt.

Then it will still be more efficient. The dual core does that.
 

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FCC filing appears to indicate that the processor is the dual-core Snapdragon and the LTE modem is the Qualcomm MDM9600, very similar to the single-core Snapdragon and LTE modem in the Thunderbolt.

Then the battery life will be horrendous. The dual core wont make up for that much in efficiency, not enough to negate the inefficient LTE modem.

Why does HTC do this, use first generation parts in what should be a second generation device?

They should've waited for Krait.

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Then it will still be more efficient. The dual core does that.

Tell that to all the satisfied Bionic users.

Bionic should have every advantage over the Vigor
* Motorola custom LTE modem vs Qualcomm multi-mode modem
* OMAP is CortexA9 vs CortexA8 (better efficiency per clock)
* Bionic has 1735 mAh batt vs Vigor's 1620mAh

I'm no Bionic fan, but hand waving about dual cores making everything better is nonsense. It might be better than the Thunderbolt (that seems pretty easy at this point), but its not fixed either..
 

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........did they actually confirm the size? I thought they didnt...i mean, its nice to speculate based on HTC's past, but I wouldnt act like anything solid yet..,
 

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Tell that to all the satisfied Bionic users.

Bionic should have every advantage over the Vigor
* Motorola custom LTE modem vs Qualcomm multi-mode modem
* OMAP is CortexA9 vs CortexA8 (better efficiency per clock)
* Bionic has 1735 mAh batt vs Vigor's 1620mAh

I'm no Bionic fan, but hand waving about dual cores making everything better is nonsense. It might be better than the Thunderbolt (that seems pretty easy at this point), but its not fixed either..

Check who you're talking to bud. The Bionic has the best battery life HANDS DOWN of any of Verizon's LTE devices. Better than the Charge, which was the previous best.

The Vigor will fall somewhere in between the two.
 

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Then the battery life will be horrendous. The dual core wont make up for that much in efficiency, not enough to negate the inefficient LTE modem.

Incorrect. See the Bionic for an idea of how much dual core can improve battery life, coupled with good power management software. The LTE modem was only part of the problem; the other was an inefficient CPU and poor power management programming on the part of HTC. They've had over 6 months to figure out what went wrong with the Thunderbolt, and remedy it. I had the Thunderbolt and I've had the BIonic; I can tell you right now that HTC did a half-assed job with the modem software in the Thunderbolt.

That, and we have no idea yet if it even HAS the MDM9600.
Why does HTC do this, use first generation parts in what should be a second generation device?
You need to get your head straight when it comes to the bolded part. HTC has no control over this. Verizon HAS NOT approved any second generation LTE modems yet, so it would not be possible for HTC to put one in the Vigor. This isn't a second-generation device by any stretch of the imagination. Like the Bionic, it is a bridge between the first generation single core devices, and the true second generation devices that have multi-mode chipsets.

It is the price of riding Verizon's initial LTE wave; you have to get used to not having the ideal solution for connectivity until well after the network has finished its initial rollout.

They should've waited for Krait.

And wait until January? Do you think Verizon and HTC are stupid?
 

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Also: What if they surprise us all and launch it with Krait? It sampled in June, so HTC could, theoretically, have a handset ready to go thanks to their cozy relationship with Qualcomm.
 

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