Chromebooks are awful. And here are some examples why.

[pseudoware]

I would also like to know more about the corrupt/damaged OS...

Google "Chrome OS is missing or damaged" and "an unexpected error had occurred"

When getting the first error message, attempts to recover the OS per Google's recovery steps:

https://support.google.com/chromebook/answer/1080595?hl=en

at times results in the 2nd message. There are workarounds that have worked for some, but others continue to have the problem through repeated recovery attempts.

Granted, I'm sure there are many satisfied Chrome OS users. Personally, I'm staying away.

 

[abazigal]

Some tips

- choose a model that has an SD card available
- shoot in RAW+JPG mode

Not really gonna help with video editing though.

I saw this article some time back. In the context of covering CES (or any other event), might a tablet like the iPad actually be more suitable?

The idea is that with built-in 4g, you don't have to bring around a mifi device or worry about keeping it charged. The long battery life should suffice in lasting you through the day.

The integrated camera lets you take photos using the tablet and insert it directly into whatever blogging app you are using. No need to lug around a bulky camera or spend time extracting and uploading the photos. I know the quality of photos will take a dive but I feel it might be considered 'good enough'.

The tablet form factor would let you hold the tablet to type and blog while walking around, so you don't need to tether yourself to a table to get any sort of meaningful work done. This means you are better able to update your blog "real time" and keep readers fed with more timely updates.

Then there are also apps like iMovie if you went to create short video clips and podcasts.

To me, it seems the author simply used the wrong tool for the job.

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[Geodude074]

I saw this article some time back. In the context of covering CES (or any other event), might a tablet like the iPad actually be more suitable?

The idea is that with built-in 4g, you don't have to bring around a mifi device or worry about keeping it charged. The long battery life should suffice in lasting you through the day.

The integrated camera lets you take photos using the tablet and insert it directly into whatever blogging app you are using. No need to lug around a bulky camera or spend time extracting and uploading the photos. I know the quality of photos will take a dive but I feel it might be considered 'good enough'.

The tablet form factor would let you hold the tablet to type and blog while walking around, so you don't need to tether yourself to a table to get any sort of meaningful work done. This means you are better able to update your blog "real time" and keep readers fed with more timely updates.

Then there are also apps like iMovie if you went to create short video clips and podcasts.

To me, it seems the author simply used the wrong tool for the job.

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Be gone with thee, troll!

And take your $630 iPad with you.

 

[abazigal]

Be gone with thee, troll!

And take your $630 iPad with you.

How am I bring a troll?


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[Geodude074]

How am I bring a troll?

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1. You completely missed the context of this entire thread. This thread is about Chromebooks and the limitations of them, and why a traditional Windows laptop at the same price point is superior. In my opinion anyways.
2. You completely missed the context of the article posted by the OP. The article was about how the author attempted to use a Chromebook to get through a day at CES. If he wanted to be more productive and functional, he wouldn't have tried using an iPad, which A) Doesn't have a keyboard. B) Has a tiny 9.7 inch screen. C) Doesn't support expandable storage, at all. D) Is three times more expensive than a Chromebook. E) Not to mention the fact he would have looked ridiculous using an iPad to take pictures and videos with, and the picture/video quality would have looked atrocious in comparison to actual professional point-and-shoot cameras.

 

[abazigal]

1. You completely missed the context of this entire thread. This thread is about Chromebooks and the limitations of them, and why a traditional Windows laptop at the same price point is superior. In my opinion anyways.
2. You completely missed the context of the article posted by the OP. The article was about how the author attempted to use a Chromebook to get through a day at CES. If he wanted to be more productive and functional, he wouldn't have tried using an iPad, which A) Doesn't have a keyboard. B) Has a tiny 9.7 inch screen. C) Doesn't support expandable storage, at all. D) Is three times more expensive than a Chromebook. E) Not to mention the fact he would have looked ridiculous using an iPad to take pictures and videos with, and the picture/video quality would have looked atrocious in comparison to actual professional point-and-shoot cameras.

With regards to iPad vs chrome book
1) I don't see what price has to do with productivity.

2) iPads offer up to 128gb of storage. This should more than suffice for whatever task you need.

3) I actually view the lack of a keyboard as a strength here. You are at a exhibition. You are supposed vto be roving around and keeping up to date with what is happening. There's no way anyone is going to be typing effectively using a laptop while on the move.

I am speaking from experience because when overseas, I have in fact used my iPad to blog in this very manner. Walk around, take photos, insert into wordpress app, type using split keyboard in portrait mode, publish.

I know a laptop can get more done, but consider the extra work involved in extracting and editing the photos, compressing them, uploading them...

4) who cares about looking ridiculous when you are getting meaningful work done? I feel that there is nothing wrong with taking photos using a tablet, and so long as I am not inconveniencing others, why should I bother about others think about me?

5) 9.7" is actually plenty when used in conjunction with optimized tablet apps. In fact, I think an iPad mini would work as well. More portable, and equivalent horsepower.

I am just thinking that here, the benefits and conveniences afforded by a tablet don't necessarily make it inferior to a dedicated laptop and camera. It was never my intention troll, merely open up another avenue of discussion, and I apologize if I have caused you or anyone any distress or misunderstanding.

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[Geodude074]

With regards to iPad vs chrome book
1) I don't see what price has to do with productivity.

2) iPads offer up to 128gb of storage. This should more than suffice for whatever task you need.

3) I actually view the lack of a keyboard as a strength here. You are at a exhibition. You are supposed vto be roving around and keeping up to date with what is happening. There's no way anyone is going to be typing effectively using a laptop while on the move.

I am speaking from experience because when overseas, I have in fact used my iPad to blog in this very manner. Walk around, take photos, insert into wordpress app, type using split keyboard in portrait mode, publish.

I know a laptop can get more done, but consider the extra work involved in extracting and editing the photos, compressing them, uploading them...

4) who cares about looking ridiculous when you are getting meaningful work done? I feel that there is nothing wrong with taking photos using a tablet, and so long as I am not inconveniencing others, why should I bother about others think about me?

5) 9.7" is actually plenty when used in conjunction with optimized tablet apps. In fact, I think an iPad mini would work as well. More portable, and equivalent horsepower.

I am just thinking that here, the benefits and conveniences afforded by a tablet don't necessarily make it inferior to a dedicated laptop and camera. It was never my intention troll, merely open up another avenue of discussion, and I apologize if I have caused you or anyone any distress or misunderstanding.

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Is this you?

Nokia Lumia 2520: The right tablet - YouTube

And LOL at you bringing up the $930 128 GB 4G iPad into this discussion.

 

[Premium1]

Covering CES with a Chromebook wasn’t great, but it was possible | Ars Technica

For a couple dollars more (sometimes literally) you can get a fully functional laptop. The fact that his unit did not even have SD support is insane to me. This jihad against local storage from Google has got to end. You cannot use the internet for everything.

I love Google, but Google+ and the Chromebook are awful ideas.

G+ is far from awful and same with chrome books. Just look how well they are selling, and they must be doing something right. But then again choice is what makes chrome books so great, you can choose one that fits your needs and has SD support.

 

[Ry]

Be gone with thee, troll!

And take your $630 iPad with you.

Just a reminder. Calling someone a troll is trolling.

 

[Ry]

1. You completely missed the context of this entire thread. This thread is about Chromebooks and the limitations of them, and why a traditional Windows laptop at the same price point is superior. In my opinion anyways.
2. You completely missed the context of the article posted by the OP. The article was about how the author attempted to use a Chromebook to get through a day at CES. If he wanted to be more productive and functional, he wouldn't have tried using an iPad, which A) Doesn't have a keyboard. B) Has a tiny 9.7 inch screen. C) Doesn't support expandable storage, at all. D) Is three times more expensive than a Chromebook. E) Not to mention the fact he would have looked ridiculous using an iPad to take pictures and videos with, and the picture/video quality would have looked atrocious in comparison to actual professional point-and-shoot cameras.

I'm not sure how abazigal missed the point of this thread.

The original poster linked an article about about covering CES with a Chromebook which mentioned things like photo editing (with a DSLR shooting RAW as a source), video editing, and power consumption (for the Chromebook + Mi-Fi) as issues.

A cellular-enabled iPad addresses all of these things.

With an iPad + Camera Connector kit, a user would be able to edit photos (RAW) and videos from a DSLR with tools like iPhoto, Adobe's iPad apps, and iMovie. With a cellular-enabled iPad, that negates the need for a Chromebook + Mi-Fi. Yes - there are Chromebooks with cellular data built-in but I feels as though they are not common.

I saw this article some time back. In the context of covering CES (or any other event), might a tablet like the iPad actually be more suitable?

The idea is that with built-in 4g, you don't have to bring around a mifi device or worry about keeping it charged. The long battery life should suffice in lasting you through the day.

The integrated camera lets you take photos using the tablet and insert it directly into whatever blogging app you are using. No need to lug around a bulky camera or spend time extracting and uploading the photos. I know the quality of photos will take a dive but I feel it might be considered 'good enough'.

The tablet form factor would let you hold the tablet to type and blog while walking around, so you don't need to tether yourself to a table to get any sort of meaningful work done. This means you are better able to update your blog "real time" and keep readers fed with more timely updates.

Then there are also apps like iMovie if you went to create short video clips and podcasts.

To me, it seems the author simply used the wrong tool for the job.

Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD

I'm not sure I'd want someone walking and typing at CES.

 

[JeffDenver]

G+ is far from awful and same with chrome books. Just look how well they are selling

Yeah, I keep hearing that. But I don't see them anywhere in the real world. Thats what makes me think that it is largely media hype.

 

[Premium1]

Yeah, I keep hearing that. But I don't see them anywhere in the real world. Thats what makes me think that it is largely media hype.

Well doubt this is "media hype" http://www.amazon.com/Best-Sellers-...ag=hawk-future-20&ascsubtag=UUacUvbUpU3425654 Maybe I just don't go to enough starbucks to see people toting laptops around with them. Then again most people carry a tablet with them and leave the laptop at home.

 

[JeffDenver]

Well doubt this is "media hype" Amazon Best Sellers: Best Laptop Computers Maybe I just don't go to enough starbucks to see people toting laptops around with them. Then again most people carry a tablet with them and leave the laptop at home.

I do. Thats why I don't have a laptop anymore. I do go to starbucks. I see laptops and macbooks and tablets, but not Chromebooks.

Those figures only apply to Amazon. Chromebooks as a group only accounted for 21% of sales. Far more people bought Windows 8 laptops. - New U.S. sales figures show the changing face of PC and tablet markets in 2013 | ZDNet - So if you are using sales as an example, then it would seem to prove my point that full laptops are still more desirable. We will see in 2014 if they can maintain this momentum. My guess is that once people experience the limitations of a Chromebook, they will no longer be buying them if comparable priced full laptops are also available.

 

[Geodude074]

Well doubt this is "media hype" Amazon Best Sellers: Best Laptop Computers Maybe I just don't go to enough starbucks to see people toting laptops around with them. Then again most people carry a tablet with them and leave the laptop at home.

Didn't I already discount this myth earlier in this thread?

But don't take my word for it. Take the Senior Research Analyst from IDC's words:

"Chromebooks from any vendor except Samsung have not fared particularly well. Even with Samsung's products, they're primarily only having an impact on K-12 education in the US--as a replacement for aging netbooks. In Q3 '13, Samsung shipped roughly 652,000 Chromebooks Worldwide ... Among other vendors Lenovo, Acer and HP have shipped, but in tiny volume. Samsung continues to hold the number one position..."

Latest IDC figures show Chromebooks continue to struggle | ZDNet

Also, someone in the comments section brought up a good point:

"Imagine there are 100 different laptops. They all sell around 100 units a year give or take 10. So in a year on average, 10000 units. Now, one of them is a Chromebook and it sells 200 a year on average (we reduce the others accordingly bring us back to 10000 units total).

Amazon will show, quite correctly, that the Chromebook is the most popular and best selling laptop - but in fact it only has 2% of the market. You're confusing best selling with largest market share."

 

[RockoB8]

I guess sometimes it comes down to, you get what you paid for. And I can understand some Chromebooks being overly expensive while other laptops are a bit higher and have more features. I still want to get a chromebook though. I'll just get a cheaper one.

 

[Premium1]

Didn't I already discount this myth earlier in this thread?

But don't take my word for it. Take the Senior Research Analyst from IDC's words:

"Chromebooks from any vendor except Samsung have not fared particularly well. Even with Samsung's products, they're primarily only having an impact on K-12 education in the US--as a replacement for aging netbooks. In Q3 '13, Samsung shipped roughly 652,000 Chromebooks Worldwide ... Among other vendors Lenovo, Acer and HP have shipped, but in tiny volume. Samsung continues to hold the number one position..."

Latest IDC figures show Chromebooks continue to struggle | ZDNet

Also, someone in the comments section brought up a good point:

"Imagine there are 100 different laptops. They all sell around 100 units a year give or take 10. So in a year on average, 10000 units. Now, one of them is a Chromebook and it sells 200 a year on average (we reduce the others accordingly bring us back to 10000 units total).

Amazon will show, quite correctly, that the Chromebook is the most popular and best selling laptop - but in fact it only has 2% of the market. You're confusing best selling with largest market share."

Where did I ever claim about market share? Eh that's right now where. You said they suck which if they indeed sucked as bad as you say nobody would be buying, even if they only have 2% of the market

 

[shanghaichica]

I love my chromebook. It's fast and it does exactly what I bough it to do. No complaints here.

 

[tr-1]

I disagree. If you can get more functionality by spending the same money, why would you not want that? Why is it stupid to want more for the same amount of money?


Self control works well for me. I avoid getting bogged down by not installing stuff. I like having the option to install it if I want though.

I keep thinking there must be something I am missing. A reason people are buying these instead of laptops. So far the only real reason I have heard is that they're more virus resistant.

If he is satisfied with functionality and enjoys the benefits of running ChromeOS, why in the world would anyone want to get something else? Just "because"? And those cheapo Windows laptops for the same price definitely have drawbacks (Windows burden, cut corners to save money for licencing, etc).
It's not just virus resistance that draws people to ChromeOS. It's a combination of different things. That's why Windows is quickly losing it's market share, especially in schools.
Google-Powered Chromebooks Take Microsoft, Apple to School - WSJ.com

 

[Ry]

Not all Chromebooks are $200. A $300 laptop running Windows 8 could easily be turned into a ChromeOS-like experience by simply installing the Chrome browser. Maybe AC and WPCentral should do a comparison.

 

[Geodude074]

If he is satisfied with functionality and enjoys the benefits of running ChromeOS, why in the world would anyone want to get something else? Just "because"? And those cheapo Windows laptops for the same price definitely have drawbacks (Windows burden, cut corners to save money for licencing, etc).
It's not just virus resistance that draws people to ChromeOS. It's a combination of different things. That's why Windows is quickly losing it's market share, especially in schools.
Google-Powered Chromebooks Take Microsoft, Apple to School - WSJ.com

iPads and Chromebooks do well in educational systems precisely BECAUSE of their limited OS, which easily limits and controls what students can do, and are easy to maintain. For a consumer though, the limited OS would be a drawback. Oh, and what "Windows burden" are you talking about?

And yes, if you're subjectively happy using a Fred Flintstone powered car (Chromebook) to get around town, then be subjectively happy. But objectively, the internal combustion engine powered car (Windows) is better.