Confirmed: Verizon Nexus One Cancelled

[this_is_kyle]

I still cant believe this phone hasnt been released yet. Unbelievable.

 

[mtb1981]

Its pretty obvious that the Incredible and the N1 are different phones, but I do think that they are going to be released at the same time. The Incredible through Verizon stores and the N1 online, just like everybody else has speculated before.

 

[this_is_kyle]

Its pretty obvious that the Incredible and the N1 are different phones, but I do think that they are going to be released at the same time. The Incredible through Verizon stores and the N1 online, just like everybody else has speculated before.

And at this point, its really the only thing that makes sense.

 

[nickacs]

Yup, if the N1 doesn't drop by the time the INC does the last week of April, Google might as well just delete the VZW area off their website. Because they will get virtually no one to buy it once people can play with the INC in stores and all the other "perks" (NE2, warranty, etc) that go with a phone in store.

Google, ya f-ed up my friend. Good luck with the future of the N1 on the other carriers cuz it sure won't help on VZW.

 

[anon(12291)]

Yup, if the N1 doesn't drop by the time the INC does the last week of April, Google might as well just delete the VZW area off their website. Because they will get virtually no one to buy it once people can play with the INC in stores and all the other "perks" (NE2, warranty, etc) that go with a phone in store.

Google, ya f-ed up my friend. Good luck with the future of the N1 on the other carriers cuz it sure won't help on VZW.

I still know people who would prefer the N1 over the Incredible. I'm still on the fence.

 

[ChuckG73]

I too will probably buy the N1 regardless of the Incredible..

 

[Argent]

I'll be the other one in line with Chuck for the N1

 

[Angelworks]

Its pretty obvious that the Incredible and the N1 are different phones, but I do think that they are going to be released at the same time. The Incredible through Verizon stores and the N1 online, just like everybody else has speculated before.

So like an end of the month release time. Which is better than their flunky at the store telling me it was months away.

 

[cesjr02]

Pretty much boils down to whether you want Sense UI or not. Personally, the N1's lack of Sense is its biggest attraction. The other differences between the N1 and Incredible are minor.

 

[Argent]

From what I've read you can disable Sense if you don't want it

 

[thecodeman25]

sense makes it looks like a child's phone in my opinion. Touch screen phones are already hardly professional looking and thats without sense.

 

[this_is_kyle]

From what I've read you can disable Sense if you don't want it

You can disable it. And thats one of the reasons I'm kinda leaning towards the Incredible now. I'm not a huge fan of Sense, but some recent videos of Sense on 2.1 make it look really awesome. Plus if I can disable it, its like the best of both worlds.

 

[thecodeman25]

when it is disabled, does that not void the warranty?

 

[beef5stew]

Pretty much boils down to whether you want Sense UI or not. Personally, the N1's lack of Sense is its biggest attraction. The other differences between the N1 and Incredible are minor.

From what I picked up, the delay is because of Apple's lawsuit. If they dropped the phones on the market with that litigation pending, it looks REALLY bad, as if they are trying to unload them prior to the injunction. They have fill out the paperwork requesting relief first (meaning, the court OKs their right to sell what they have with the assurance that any patent infringement can be recinded through a software update.)

Once that is cleared, they can go forward. Since the patent dispute is with HTC, the lawsuit will affect the N1 and the Incredible...which is why neither has hit the Market.

If they hit at the EXACT same time, I'm going for the google product, because I like Google more than I like Verizon.

If they hit even 1 day apart, I'm going for the first one.

 

[cesjr02]

You can disable it. And thats one of the reasons I'm kinda leaning towards the Incredible now. I'm not a huge fan of Sense, but some recent videos of Sense on 2.1 make it look really awesome. Plus if I can disable it, its like the best of both worlds.

Disabled as in turning off certain GUI elements but Sense is still running if I'm not mistaken.

 

[cesjr02]

sense makes it looks like a child's phone in my opinion. Touch screen phones are already hardly professional looking and thats without sense.

I agree, and I actually like the added functionality Sense provides. But the GUI, although pretty looks too child-like to me.

 

[doogald]

From what I picked up, the delay is because of Apple's lawsuit. If they dropped the phones on the market with that litigation pending, it looks REALLY bad, as if they are trying to unload them prior to the injunction. They have fill out the paperwork requesting relief first (meaning, the court OKs their right to sell what they have with the assurance that any patent infringement can be recinded through a software update.)

Incorrect. First, I believe that if they knowingly hold up imports, they are basically admitting that there is possible infringement. HTC will not stop importing phones until the ITC rules that they must (which will likely be immediately stayed pending appeal.)

IF HTC were reacting as you describe, they would immediately stop selling all of their infringing phones, selling out existing inventory. Also, since the lawsuits were filed, they launched the GSM phone with AT&T bands, and T-Mobile released the HD2, which is one of the phones allegedly infringing on Apple's patents.

The "delay" has nothing at all to do with the lawsuit. (And, since Google promised a Verizon N1 in "Spring 2010", it is not delayed until the end of June.)

 

[beef5stew]

Incorrect. First, I believe that if they knowingly hold up imports, they are basically admitting that there is possible infringement. HTC will not stop importing phones until the ITC rules that they must (which will likely be immediately stayed pending appeal.)

IF HTC were reacting as you describe, they would immediately stop selling all of their infringing phones, selling out existing inventory. Also, since the lawsuits were filed, they launched the GSM phone with AT&T bands, and T-Mobile released the HD2, which is one of the phones allegedly infringing on Apple's patents.

The "delay" has nothing at all to do with the lawsuit. (And, since Google promised a Verizon N1 in "Spring 2010", it is not delayed until the end of June.)

I think apple timed the lawsuit to try to stop the AT&T release of the N1 as well. If you look at the timing, the lawsuit was placed exactly 2 weeks before the release of the N1 for AT&T.

With an injunction request, HTC would not have to stop selling any products, but they would have to restrict the introduction of new products. That would also explain why they did not announce at CTIA as was expected.

 

[doogald]

I think apple timed the lawsuit to try to stop the AT&T release of the N1 as well. If you look at the timing, the lawsuit was placed exactly 2 weeks before the release of the N1 for AT&T.

With an injunction request, HTC would not have to stop selling any products, but they would have to restrict the introduction of new products. That would also explain why they did not announce at CTIA as was expected.

There was no injunction. HTC continues to import all phones that Apple allege are infringing. As I said, HTC introduced both the N1 with AT&T bands and the HD2 after the lawsuit was filed. Oh, and, of course, HTC and Sprint announced at CTIA the EVO, and announced that it will ship this summer.

In early April the ITC decided that there was enough merit in Apple's complaint to start an investigation. There has been no injunction against the importation pending the result of that investigation. It should be noted that the ITC began an investigation last January in the Nokia suit filed against Apple that affects Apple phones, iPods and notebook computers. Apple continues to import these, and very famously introduced the iPad, which likely uses the same allegedly infringing power management technology.

This lawsuit has simply nothing to do with the timetable of the N1 (or Incredible) launch.

 

[sd_bber]

Were only about halfway through spring and there was no official release date for the phone on vz. People are getting fed up from RUMORED release dates. Helpful hint: put it in your mind that the phone won't be released till the end of spring, that way, there is no disappointment or anger.