Connecting to hidden network

[cmbacke]

I upgraded my Pixel 2 XL to Android 9 and since then, my phone can no longer connect to my network when I hide it's SSID. I have unhide in order to connect.

 

[Rukbat]

Yep, something no one noticed during the beta. That's a known problem, and not something that's going to get fixed immediately.

 

[hallux]

When you go to add your network, trap advanced options. On there is the option to connect even when the network ID is not being broadcast.

 

[Bynal]

When you go to add your network, trap advanced options. On there is the option to connect even when the network ID is not being broadcast.

As of 10/25/2018 this doesn't work on the Pixel 2. Very disappointing.

 

[mpierson1969]

I upgraded my Pixel 2 XL to Android 9 and since then, my phone can no longer connect to my network when I hide it's SSID. I have unhide in order to connect.

WTF????

I just figured this out on my wife's Pixel 2XL. The ****ty phone won't even stay connected if you hide the SSID once it's all connected and configured.

I guess it's obvious Google doesn't really give a F*CK about people's security. I've had my SSID hidden since the beginning of wifi. Living in a densely populated city, you can see 20 SSIDs from ones couch. I'd rather not have my SSID broadcast for anyone to sniff out.

This really is BULL****!!!

Does anyone have any input from Google on this or an ETA for when this will be fixed or even addressed?

Maybe a wealthy entrepreneur can create an OS with security in mind from the ground up instead of the end goal being to capturing user's info to put up for sale.

I'm sick of the sticking to people for a buck mentality.

 

[GSDer]

Does anyone have any input from Google on this or an ETA for when this will be fixed or even addressed?

You should certainly provide feedback to Google directly about this (Settings -> Tips & support -> Send feedback) and in that same menu you could request support directly via Phone or Chat. Perhaps there are some additional steps they could have you try; in any case, they'd at least be aware of the problem.

 

[Rukbat]

I guess it's obvious Google doesn't really give a F*CK about people's security.

Actually they do. Which is why Pie went through 4 betas before it was released.

So what went wrong? People seem to think "beta" means "I get to use the new version before anyone else does". What it actually means is "if you're an experienced software beta tester, install this, bang on it, tear it up, and report bugs". No oine does that, they just install one beta after the other and ***** about the bugs.

When a piece of software has as many lines of code as Android does, a team of 100 developers (and that's ridiculously large) couldn't test everything, so instead, a few thousand beta testers are supposed to be doing the testing instead.

WE'RE the ones not doing the job. Blame the users of the betas. (For example, I don't get out much, and pictures of my living room aren't thrilling, so I don't test the camera app much. But if Maps doesn't work I'll know about it in a few days, Everyone does things differently, so among all of us, we should catch most of the bugs. We don't, because no one bothers.

"I'm sick of" people downloading the betas, then not beta testing them. When I install a beta, or when I used to release betas (I'm a retired software developer), I tested/expected users to test the beta.

 

[hallux]

I just figured this out on my wife's Pixel 2XL. The ****ty phone won't even stay connected if you hide the SSID once it's all connected and configured.

That's odd, my SSID is hidden and my phone connects to it just fine. You DID see and select the option in the WiFi config to connect to the network even if it's not broadcasting, right? I posted the screenshot showing this in my post above (it's called "hidden network" in the advanced settings).

 

[mpierson1969]

Actually they do. Which is why Pie went through 4 betas before it was released.

So what went wrong? People seem to think "beta" means "I get to use the new version before anyone else does". What it actually means is "if you're an experienced software beta tester, install this, bang on it, tear it up, and report bugs". No oine does that, they just install one beta after the other and ***** about the bugs.

When a piece of software has as many lines of code as Android does, a team of 100 developers (and that's ridiculously large) couldn't test everything, so instead, a few thousand beta testers are supposed to be doing the testing instead.

WE'RE the ones not doing the job. Blame the users of the betas. (For example, I don't get out much, and pictures of my living room aren't thrilling, so I don't test the camera app much. But if Maps doesn't work I'll know about it in a few days, Everyone does things differently, so among all of us, we should catch most of the bugs. We don't, because no one bothers.

"I'm sick of" people downloading the betas, then not beta testing them. When I install a beta, or when I used to release betas (I'm a retired software developer), I tested/expected users to test the beta.

I have a couple of issues with your reply... if in fact what you wrote is true. 100 developers is nothing. My firm has a couple of hundred dedicated to a single in-house app. We don't have developers do their own testing either. Development shouldn't do their own testing. In my experience developers are the worst testers. The QA dept is supposed to do all the testing.

I certainly agree that beta testers should be more vigilant, but you get what you pay for.

Google should still do more!

 

[mpierson1969]

You should certainly provide feedback to Google directly about this (Settings -> Tips & support -> Send feedback) and in that same menu you could request support directly via Phone or Chat. Perhaps there are some additional steps they could have you try; in any case, they'd at least be aware of the problem.

Thank you!

 

[mpierson1969]

That's odd, my SSID is hidden and my phone connects to it just fine. You DID see and select the option in the WiFi config to connect to the network even if it's not broadcasting, right? I posted the screenshot showing this in my post above (it's called "hidden network" in the advanced settings).

Yeah... my S8 works on my hidden wifi without problems, but I'm on Droid version 8. Its my wife's Pixel XL running droid version 9 that's the problem child. The bluetooth is acting up as well on her phone, but I haven't had a chance to look at that.

 

[mpierson1969]

That's odd, my SSID is hidden and my phone connects to it just fine. You DID see and select the option in the WiFi config to connect to the network even if it's not broadcasting, right? I posted the screenshot showing this in my post above (it's called "hidden network" in the advanced settings).

Just as a side note, my wife's Pixel 2XL never had a problem connecting to my hidden wifi before it was upgraded to version 9. The only thing that changed was her OS vers.

 

[hallux]

Just as a side note, my wife's Pixel 2XL never had a problem connecting to my hidden wifi before it was upgraded to version 9. The only thing that changed was her OS vers.

The "hidden network" setting was new for Pie. Your reply was unclear, did you verify that was selected when configuring the network?

 

[Roger Dodger3]

I am VERY disappointed in many of the replies here. Do many of you people realize that autoconnect is not always going to work? Sometimes the autoconnect feature does not activate when you want it to. It only connects under certain programmed conditions, and if your conditions don't fit, it won't try to connect. So, if I am on Network A, and manually select Network B, I cannot get back on Network A! I can even see the saved name in my network list (even though it is not detected). However, if I select the name, I only get options to Edit, Cancel, or Forget! That's crap! This design has existed for YEARS. It is there because Google engineers have failed to account for such obvious scenarios. Imagine trying to use a WiFi extender in your home and you need to manually switch networks that are not broadcast. You cannot. The concept is not extremely unusual, and still Google has failed to account for it. That is a failure. That so many people here failed to see that is additionally disappointing.