Could pixel 2 XL display color profile be changed?

[quietlybrilliant]

Just wondering, as the washed out or muted colors aren’t everyone’s favorite. Could google roll out an update with options (like Oneplus has done), or is this baked into the hardware somehow?

 

[Aquila]

Re: Could pixel 2 XL color profile be changed?

It could, but it probably won't. Android O introduces OS level color management, meaning that the type of content being displayed indicates the colors that are to be utilized. To do this as perfectly possible, they will want the color calibration to be as accurate as possible. "Washed out" is the term used by a select group of users to describe "accurate" in many cases.

 

[quietlybrilliant]

Aquila, I meant the display color profile, something else instead of the default srgb

 

[Aquila]

Aquila, I meant the display color profile, something else instead of the default srgb

Right, that's what I'm talking about as well. Long story short, the new Pixels conform to two color gamus, sRGB and DCI-P3. With OS level color management, each is used for different types of content, but sRGB being what we're going to be looking at most of the time. They're doing this intentionally, so while yes, it is possible to add a less accurate mode ... they definitely wouldn't want to do so. It's difficult to describe a type of content for which you would want to see inaccurate colors. Definitely not photos or video, certainly not your wallpaper (as many wallpapers are photos) or apps.. or what else is there? Icons?

 

[dsignori]

Right, that's what I'm talking about as well. Long story short, the new Pixels conform to two color gamus, sRGB and DCI-P3. With OS level color management, each is used for different types of content, but sRGB being what we're going to be looking at most of the time. They're doing this intentionally, so while yes, it is possible to add a less accurate mode ... they definitely wouldn't want to do so. It's difficult to describe a type of content for which you would want to see inaccurate colors. Definitely not photos or video, certainly not your wallpaper (as many wallpapers are photos) or apps.. or what else is there? Icons?

Oy. The accurate = more pleasing argument again? Not always . The question was can the user have an option to change it. I wish it were so, but I am sure they won't offer it ...

 

[Aquila]

Oy. The accurate = more pleasing argument again? Not always ..

No, not that one. This is a different argument, simply technological . This is that Android finally has the native ability to move between "color modes" at will, or at least as directed to by cues in apps, etc, that indicate what type of content is being displayed (photo, video, game, etc). iOS has had this for some time now and some OEMs have been able to force it to happen in their implementations of Android prior to now, but only for specific apps because they were basically hard coding, "if it's this app, do this". Now that can be done dynamically.

One of the things LG does, is actually provide r g and b sliders for the user to mess with. Technically, Google could do this too, so the second part of the statement you quoted is more about a different question of, "which types of content should Google assume people do not want to see accurately?" It's not a simple question in my opinion.

It's very obvious that some people prefer different modes over others, and that's not something I'm going to try to disabuse because I don't have their eyes or spend my time looking at the same things they do. Everyone is fine to like what they like.

I'm interested, slightly, (just as an exercise, because to me it really doesn't matter) in the reason people would prefer less accurate, but I don't think they're wrong for having that preference. Unless it's just preference due to regency or familiarity, in which case I might be willing to stake my claim on the position that it's uninformed and possibly weak and sometimes it's a good idea to try nice things to see if they actually hold appeal, rather than simply planting a flag in familiar territory. But even that, not wrong... it's just a little strange?

 

[Mike Dee]

Re: Could pixel 2 XL color profile be changed?

It could, but it probably won't. Android O introduces OS level color management, meaning that the type of content being displayed indicates the colors that are to be utilized. To do this as perfectly possible, they will want the color calibration to be as accurate as possible. "Washed out" is the term used by a select group of users to describe "accurate" in many cases.

I have yet to understand the preference for artificially boosted colors that pop. I didn't understand it as a photographer and I certainly don't understand it on Displays....be it through TVs, PCs, or smartphones. I'll take accurate over pop any day.

Somehow it's all gotten too out of hand, too complicated for a simple man. So consider me washed out and loving it, but I prefer to see things as they are, not as we think they should be.

 

[dsignori]

No, not that one. This is a different argument, simply technological . This is that Android finally has the native ability to move between "color modes" at will, or at least as directed to by cues in apps, etc, that indicate what type of content is being displayed (photo, video, game, etc). iOS has had this for some time now and some OEMs have been able to force it to happen in their implementations of Android prior to now, but only for specific apps because they were basically hard coding, "if it's this app, do this". Now that can be done dynamically.

One of the things LG does, is actually provide r g and b sliders for the user to mess with. Technically, Google could do this too, so the second part of the statement you quoted is more about a different question of, "which types of content should Google assume people do not want to see accurately?" It's not a simple question in my opinion.

It's very obvious that some people prefer different modes over others, and that's not something I'm going to try to disabuse because I don't have their eyes or spend my time looking at the same things they do. Everyone is fine to like what they like.

I'm interested, slightly, (just as an exercise, because to me it really doesn't matter) in the reason people would prefer less accurate, but I don't think they're wrong for having that preference. Unless it's just preference due to regency or familiarity, in which case I might be willing to stake my claim on the position that it's uninformed and possibly weak and sometimes it's a good idea to try nice things to see if they actually hold appeal, rather than simply planting a flag in familiar territory. But even that, not wrong... it's just a little strange?

Thanks, that good info in the first part. I guess I meant simply this. I can go into Samsung display settings and adjust how vivid or dull ("accurate" as you say EVERYTHING looks on the screen. I just don't see why that can't be offered here is all ...

As for the other part, I'm not going there again . I can't tell you exactly why many people perceive something that is more colorful to be more pleasing than something less colorful, but more accurate. I can tell you I am one of those folks

 

[xplod566]

Just wondering, as the washed out or muted colors aren’t everyone’s favorite. Could google roll out an update with options (like Oneplus has done), or is this baked into the hardware somehow?

I doubt but use the display for a good 1 week and u might actually love it.
However u can check accessibility and then vision and Scree colour adjustment.i am not sure if that can help...

 

[Aquila]

Thanks, that good info in the first part. I guess I meant simply this. I can go into Samsung display settings and adjust how vivid or dull ("accurate" as you say EVERYTHING looks on the screen. I just don't see why that can't be offered here is all ...

As for the other part, I'm not going there again . I can't tell you exactly why many people perceive something that is more colorful to be more pleasing than something less colorful, but more accurate. I can tell you I am one of those folks

I agree 100% that they can do it. I can't say for sure why they don't do it, just providing my thoughts on one idea on why they might not want to. In many of these cases I think that options should exist. I'm not sure if I would offer the option or not if it were up to me. It's sort of a complex question.

 

[Stang68]

I believe there's a Vivid Colors option in the display settings. That may help you out.

 

[recDNA]

Re: Could pixel 2 XL color profile be changed?

I have yet to understand the preference for artificially boosted colors that pop. I didn't understand it as a photographer and I certainly don't understand it on Displays....be it through TVs, PCs, or smartphones. I'll take accurate over pop any day.

Somehow it's all gotten too out of hand, too complicated for a simple man. So consider me washed out and loving it, but I prefer to see things as they are, not as we think they should be.

I like POP! I like my tv to show more vivid colors with more saturation than real life. It looks prettier to me that way. I also like a slight shift to blue. Motorola used to make phones that white looked beige. Samsung white popped blue white. I know the warmer white is easier on the eyes and more real. I prefer noontime sunlight white 5700k to warm white colors below 4000k.Cooler colors just look prettier to me. Aesthetically pleasing, not more realistic. After all no light emitting source is realistic anyway. I like scenes on tv to be bright and colorful like cartoons.

I'm not knocking Pixels. Haven't seen the new ones yet. Just trying to explain why someone (me) might like a display that is not accurate.

That said I've grown to like the LCD display of my V20. Never thought I would. I loved the Note 7 display. I think I grow to enjoy whatever display I get used to.

 

[chowdog13]

I've had the srgb mode enabled on my Nexus 6P and Pixel because I prefer the more accurate colors. If that's how my 2 XL looks like out-of-the-box then I'll be pleased as punch

 

[Almeuit]

Due to many topics going on about this same issue I am closing this thread and linking to one I just made. This will help it be a one-stop-shop for all discussions about the screen versus a bunch of threads all discussing the same topic .

https://forums.androidcentral.com/google-pixel-2-pixel-2-xl/841456-pixel-2-xl-screen-discussion.html

Thanks!