Did Samsung kill the note 8

[Aquila]

The Note has its dedicated line of fans.

Even though the 5 and 7 were very identical to the S6 and S7 respectively in terms of raw specs and design, they still found some fans.

The S Series sells 40 to 50 million a year and the note sells 2 to 5. Samsung isn't super worried about the Note fans, especially since now we know those people will buy the S series too.

 

[D13H4RD2L1V3]

The S Series sells 40 to 50 million a year and the note sells 2 to 5. Samsung isn't super worried about the Note fans, especially since now we know those people will buy the S series too.

I think the Note sells more than that, TBH.

Doesn't seem to be a niche product anymore.

Then again, maybe I am mistaken since the S-line is usually the volume seller.

 

[donm527]

Yeah googling a bit I think numbers could be around the 10 million mark with some years... fraction compared to the S line but as much, if not more, than other competitors flagships.

Again I think the attraction could have been the bigger screen when the norm was 4.7 - 5" since even many hear admit not using the pen much so that part that make the phone stand out doesn't seem to as much when you have a + at 6.1"

I think the Note sells more than that, TBH.

Doesn't seem to be a niche product anymore.

Then again, maybe I am mistaken since the S-line is usually the volume seller.

 

[trucksmoveamerica#AC]

Yeah googling a bit I think numbers could be around the 10 million mark with some years... fraction compared to the S line but as much, if not more, than other competitors flagships.

Again I think the attraction could have been the bigger screen when the norm was 4.7 - 5" since even many hear admit not using the pen much so that part that make the phone stand out doesn't seem to as much when you have a + at 6.1"

My main attraction to the note series was the bigger screen and some of the features like gif, select the part you want to copy from a website. The S pen was just the way to do those things which was what I used the S pen for. Now with the S8 series providing that and bigger screen I don't need the S pen anymore, so the S8 plus does what I need. Will see what the note 8 offers, but rumor mill isn't very promising of anything great. I don't expect the under screen FPS to be of much interest to me, I like it where it is at now. Wider screen does nothing for me, I don't want wider. More memory or RAM isn't anything that will make me jump ship.

 

[103Softail]

Takes one to know one

Haha. Nope. Single!

 

[Doug Moffat]

Samsung for reasons that baffle me began to cripple the Note series with the 5.

Non-replaceable battery, no IF Blaster, the elimination of MHL, a stylus that fell apart in your hand, no real evolution in the S pen software, indifferent speakers, etc.

I still bought and enjoyed the phone but Samsung tested my patience. Then the exploding Note 7.

Serious question whether Note 8 will offer much more than S8+. We'll see.

 

[Aquila]

Samsung for reasons that baffle me began to cripple the Note series with the 5.

Non-replaceable battery, no IF Blaster, the elimination of MHL, a stylus that fell apart in your hand, no real evolution in the S pen software, indifferent speakers, etc.

I still bought and enjoyed the phone but Samsung tested my patience. Then the exploding Note 7.

Serious question whether Note 8 will offer much more than S8+. We'll see.

I feel like the 5 is the first one they took seriously.

 

[jimd1050]

I feel like the 5 is the first one they took seriously.

No, I think Doug is right - I think the only problem with the Note 7 was the BIG ONE though! I loved that phone!!!

 

[Aquila]

No, I think Doug is right - I think the only problem with the Note 7 was the BIG ONE though! I loved that phone!!!

Right I mean 5 was the first note they took seriously, 7 was polishing the direction.

 

[Jewels81]

Haha. Nope. Single!

Lol don't blame ya

 

[natehoy]

I feel like the 5 is the first one they took seriously.

I think the 5 is the first one they started taking sales seriously on, trying to mainstream the line.

However, they also undid a lot of what to many Note fans defined the Note line. Making a big screen and packing it with lots and lots of practical, daily-use features, plus a few new gimmicks that were a bit experimental and might or might not end up in the more consumer/less geek oriented S line to follow.

Obviously differing people have different desires, but looking at the differences between the Note 4 and the Note 5, my feeling is that they redefined the Note series that round to be "Galaxy S, now with S-Pen!" rather than "full-on productivity megabeast of a phablet" - which was probably great for sales, but was also disappointing to a lot of us looking forward to two distinct phone lines from Samsung.

 

[Aquila]

I think the 5 is the first one they started taking sales seriously on, trying to mainstream the line.

However, they also undid a lot of what to many Note fans defined the Note line. Making a big screen and packing it with lots and lots of practical, daily-use features, plus a few new gimmicks that were a bit experimental and might or might not end up in the more consumer/less geek oriented S line to follow.

Obviously differing people have different desires, but looking at the differences between the Note 4 and the Note 5, my feeling is that they redefined the Note series that round to be "Galaxy S, now with S-Pen!" rather than "full-on productivity megabeast of a phablet" - which was probably great for sales, but was also disappointing to a lot of us looking forward to two distinct phone lines from Samsung.

Makes sense

 

[trucksmoveamerica#AC]

I think the 5 is the first one they started taking sales seriously on, trying to mainstream the line.

However, they also undid a lot of what to many Note fans defined the Note line. Making a big screen and packing it with lots and lots of practical, daily-use features, plus a few new gimmicks that were a bit experimental and might or might not end up in the more consumer/less geek oriented S line to follow.

Obviously differing people have different desires, but looking at the differences between the Note 4 and the Note 5, my feeling is that they redefined the Note series that round to be "Galaxy S, now with S-Pen!" rather than "full-on productivity megabeast of a phablet" - which was probably great for sales, but was also disappointing to a lot of us looking forward to two distinct phone lines from Samsung.

I sometimes think Samsung is gradually transforming the note line to the S plus, add a S pen. They are getting awfully close to each other on specs.

 

[ThrottleJohnny]

I sometimes think Samsung is gradually transforming the note line to the S plus, add a S pen. They are getting awfully close to each other on specs.

I think you can thank the introduction of the Iphone plus model for that. Samsung felt they needed to "polish" up their entire line up to compete.

Now you're seeing LG polish up as well. I'm not sure fans of the V series as well as the Pixel XL will even recognize the "new" versions this year.

 

[amyf27]

I feel like the 5 is the first one they took seriously.

I liked my Note 5. No issues with the S Pen. Doesn't have the best battery performance but it's fine.

 

[trucksmoveamerica#AC]

I liked my Note 5. No issues with the S Pen. Doesn't have the best battery performance but it's fine.

The battery went down hill after the first OS update, even after a FDR.

 

[Doug Moffat]

Look, I liked the Note 5 but they took away features from the Note 3 and 4. I know because I've had all the Notes from 2 onward. And I still use the Note 5 at night when I use my S8+ to cast to my TV. Sometimes I even use the Note 4.

I detailed some of the deficits of the Note 5 but I'm not interested in expanding my list of missing or incomplete features lest it come across as snark--which is definitely not my intention.

Would be interested in the views of people who have owned most of the Notes and their preferences. My personal favorite was the Note 3.

 

[trucksmoveamerica#AC]

Look, I liked the Note 5 but they took away features from the Note 3 and 4. I know because I've had all the Notes from 2 onward. And I still use the Note 5 at night when I use my S8+ to cast to my TV. Sometimes I even use the Note 4.

I detailed some of the deficits of the Note 5 but I'm not interested in expanding my list of missing or incomplete features lest it come across as snark--which is definitely not my intention.

Would be interested in the views of people who have owned most of the Notes and their preferences. My personal favorite was the Note 3.

Note 7 was my favorite but since that bombed, I would have to say note 3 or 4, probably note 4 since it had a wireless charging back available.

 

[Nakrohtap]

Note 7 was my favorite but since that bombed, I would have to say note 3 or 4, probably note 4 since it had a wireless charging back available.

I guess everyone has varying opinions. I still use a Note 4 for work and it's a brick compared to the newer Samsung phones. I think it actually types better than any of the curved models, though. The composition of the curved screen may have a lot to do with that. I recall the Note7 not being the smoothest to type on, either.
I would rank the Note5 behind the Note7 as my next favorite.

 

[trucksmoveamerica#AC]

I guess everyone has varying opinions. I still use a Note 4 for work and it's a brick compared to the newer Samsung phones. I think it actually types better than any of the curved models, though. The composition of the curved screen may have a lot to do with that. I recall the Note7 not being the smoothest to type on, either.
I would rank the Note5 behind the Note7 as my nest favorite.

Yeah there's a lot of different opinions, that's the good thing with Android, there are lots of choices to fit a lot of different needs. With that said, all the different breeds of Android, updates suffer.