Disappointed because not selling from us carriers..

[flychinook]

Right, if you're on the legacy plans you're already feeling a better deal than everyone else, so no reason to increase the savings. Byod savings are for current plans that can be purchased now.

Fair enough. It's just frustrating that they'll discount my plan if I buy at full retail through the carrier, but not if I buy at full retail through someone else.

That being said, I did the maths and found out that, over 2 years, buying a 32gb 6P with Nexus Protect will only cost me $90 more than buying a $200 discounted phone, due to the money saved not having to pay for Sprint's phone insurance or an activation fee. The only drawback is the larger upfront cost.

 

[bhatech]

Actually happy that it's not being sold via useless crappy carriers who crap devices with ugly logo, crap in store experience. I know it won't sell many but this looks so much better than selling thru carriers.

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[flychinook]

Right, if you're on the legacy plans you're already feeling a better deal than everyone else, so no reason to increase the savings. Byod savings are for current plans that can be purchased now.

Fair enough. It's just frustrating that they'll discount my plan if I buy at full retail through the carrier, but not if I buy at full retail through someone else.

That being said, I did the maths and found out that, over 2 years, buying a 32gb 6P with Nexus Protect will only cost me $90 more than buying a $200 discounted phone, due to the money saved not having to pay for Sprint's phone insurance or an activation fee. The only drawback is the larger upfront cost.

 

[Richard Servello]

I'm on a family plan and all my family members get their iphones for $200 or $300 subsidized.. the $550(64gb) + insurance(maybe) is a lot more than that just to not sign a 2 yr contract which I will def be part of anyways

Depends on the phones you get. My s6 on a 2 year plan was $500. Every iPhone I ever got was $400-$500.

 

[Almeuit]

Depends on the phones you get. My s6 on a 2 year plan was $500. Every iPhone I ever got was $400-$500.

Just depends how you pay. iPhone 6+ 64 GB cost me a pretty penny to play around with .

 

[Aridon]

I wish that Google did get into BestBuy and have some Kiosks there similar to what you see with the Apple products. Would go a long way in getting consumers hands on devices besides us geeks.

I also wish they would consider a monthly plan, again similar to Apple, because while I don't mind paying full price for phones when I want them I know that a lot of America LOVES their payments and already has payments for just about everything. Guaranteed return customers when you get them hooked like that.

 

[Ry]

I wish that Google did get into BestBuy and have some Kiosks there similar to what you see with the Apple products. Would go a long way in getting consumers hands on devices besides us geeks.

I also wish they would consider a monthly plan, again similar to Apple, because while I don't mind paying full price for phones when I want them I know that a lot of America LOVES their payments and already has payments for just about everything. Guaranteed return customers when you get them hooked like that.

They have/had them but they are/were much smaller, usually showing off a couple of Chromebooks, the Nexus 7, and a Chromecast.

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[getbretweir]

Fair enough. It's just frustrating that they'll discount my plan if I buy at full retail through the carrier, but not if I buy at full retail through someone else.

That being said, I did the maths and found out that, over 2 years, buying a 32gb 6P with Nexus Protect will only cost me $90 more than buying a $200 discounted phone, due to the money saved not having to pay for Sprint's phone insurance or an activation fee. The only drawback is the larger upfront cost.

I'm not sure if it's only with Fi, but Google is offering 0% financing for 24 months. If you're in the US and have good credit, Wells Fargo has a cash back credit card (instead of rewards your points get reimbursed as cash which is automatically deposited into your checking account in $25 increments).

tm

 

[Ry]

I'm not sure if it's only with Fi, but Google is offering 0% financing for 24 months. If you're in the US and have good credit, Wells Fargo has a cash back credit card (instead of rewards your points get reimbursed as cash which is automatically deposited into your checking account in $25 increments).

tm

Only with Fi.

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[qnet]

I think an expansion within Best Buy of the Google section is more likely.

I agree and hope they do that. In my city both Samsung & Apple have their own sections in Best Buy. The Google section is really small, but it wouldn't take a lot of space to include both new phones and the new chromebook. They could even include some info about tier Fi Network.

 

[Ry]

I agree and hope they do that. In my city both Samsung & Apple have their own sections in Best Buy. The Google section is really small, but it wouldn't take a lot of space to include both new phones and the new chromebook. They could even include some info about tier Fi Network.

I would like to see Fi right next to all the other carriers at Best Buy Mobile.

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[qnet]

I would like to see Fi right next to all the other carriers at Best Buy Mobile.

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Yeah, that would be nice also.

 

[mwb1957]

Is there any chance Verizon will block this phone from their network?

I have Note 3 and my contract is up in February.

I want the 6P. Can't wait for the reviews.

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[Ry]

Is there any chance Verizon will block this phone from their network?

I have Note 3 and my contract is up in February.

I want the 6P. Can't wait for the reviews.

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No.

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[ybcthanerd]

I know that. I've owned every nexus device but the nexus 6. But the nexus devices that Verizon has carried got muddled down in Verizon's bloat and update schedule. I'm just saying that any phone sold, regardless of manufacturer, is better off without carrier meddling. Just like Apple with the iPhone.

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yea i feel u t-mobile doesnt do that with nexus jus everything else lol. but thats where the oem comes into play they have to not allow that crap but i dont see that ever happening

 

[hpilot]

Not necessarily true for everyone. I have two lines, $60/line with discounted upgrades every two years. If I do installment billing through the carrier, they'll knock $15/month off the price. If I buy a Nexus and activate it on my plan (assuming it's even possible on Sprint) they will not drop the plan price at all. There is no GSM signal for miles, so my choices are Sprint, Verizon, or US Cellular. I really want the Nexus, but I don't know if I can justify the extra $300 I would spend vs an on-contract flagship.

Just go to a Sprint MVNO. They are a lot cheaper when you bring your own phone. See here: Sprint MVNO's Comparison by Price and Features

I just can't believe anyone would want to be a slave to a carrier...

 

[hpilot]

I'm also on a legacy plan. Yes it's older but there's a lot of my friends and coworkers in the same boat as me, lucky enough to maintain grandfathered awesome plans that aren't offered anymore at a significantly lower price and better data caps than the equivalent new ones and we're unwilling to lose them.

There's also many people who got cut rates to their plans through workplace perks years ago. The savings/month on those plans are higher than what the newer plans are offering if you BYOD. That being the case, we'd end up actually paying more to buy outright not only at the front end, but also in monthly fees.

What am I missing. BYOD does not mean you give up your plan. I have AT&T, and all I did was put my old sim card in my new phone. I did not even call them.

 

[syspry]

What am I missing. BYOD does not mean you give up your plan. I have AT&T, and all I did was put my old sim card in my new phone. I did not even call them.

nobody said you lose your plan if you BYOD. I said for people on legacy plans they scored through work that are so well priced and featured that buying on contract ends up being a better deal than you get on the newer plans that discount your rate if you do BYOD. I'll try to make this simple:

Tom buys a phone outright for $700 and gets $20/month discount because ATT does that for you on their newer plans if you BYOD and saves $480. His monthly bill goes from $80 to $60. Total cost over 2 years for Tom is $2140

Dave buys a $700 phone on contract for $300. He has a kickin' legacy plan through work that includes lower long distance charges, no activation fees, and his special rate plan is only $50/month. Total cost for Dave over 2 years is $1500 (plus more savings from a better exclusive rate LD plan and other perks).

I totally made up those numbers by the way but the point is that my legacy plan means the discounts are deeper to buy on contract than they would be if I bought outright on one of the newer plans that offers you a discount if you BYOD.

Capisce?

On a side note there seems to be a bit of a negative undertone towards my mentioning some benefits of carrier contracts. And yeah, I get that, people aren't generally thrilled with carriers and ISP's. Maybe Tom is a bit jealous of Dave too. That doesn't mean those benefits don't exist though if you're lucky enough to have jumped on one of those plans when they were hot around 2011-2012. And that also means my monthly fees are permanently set at the lower rates from 2011 as well. There's a reason they aren't around as much anymore, the carriers don't like the savings we're getting from them but because they're enshrined in deals they've made with corporations, government employers and unions, they aren't willing to pull them.

 

[hpilot]

nobody said you lose your plan if you BYOD. I said for people on legacy plans they scored through work that are so well priced and featured that buying on contract ends up being a better deal than you get on the newer plans that discount your rate if you do BYOD. I'll try to make this simple:

Tom buys a phone outright for $700 and gets $20/month discount because ATT does that for you on their newer plans if you BYOD and saves $480. His monthly bill goes from $80 to $60. Total cost over 2 years for Tom is $2140

Dave buys a $700 phone on contract for $300. He has a kickin' legacy plan through work that includes lower long distance charges, no activation fees, and his special rate plan is only $50/month. Total cost for Dave over 2 years is $1500 (plus more savings from a better exclusive rate LD plan and other perks).

I totally made up those numbers by the way but the point is that my legacy plan means the discounts are deeper to buy on contract than they would be if I bought outright on one of the newer plans that offers you a discount if you BYOD.

Capisce?

On a side note there seems to be a bit of a negative undertone towards my mentioning some benefits of carrier contracts. And yeah, I get that, people aren't generally thrilled with carriers and ISP's. Maybe Tom is a bit jealous of Dave too. That doesn't mean those benefits don't exist though if you're lucky enough to have jumped on one of those plans when they were hot around 2011-2012. And that also means my monthly fees are permanently set at the lower rates from 2011 as well. There's a reason they aren't around as much anymore, the carriers don't like the savings we're getting from them but because they're enshrined in deals they've made with corporations, government employers and unions, they aren't willing to pull them.

Numbers matter, so I won't make up numbers. I happen to have AT&T. I get a 20% corporate discount. There is no "corporate plan", just a discount on whatever plan you want. I don't even work for that company anymore, but they don't really care. They never asked me for any verification of employment (neither did Sprint). Since this forum is about the Nexus, Dave should not buy the $700 phone, but rather buy a $350 phone. My daily driver is a OnePlus One ($350) - a fantastic phone. AT&T will never carry a phone like that. And then there is carrier bloatware and crapware - god I hate that! The day my last contract was up, I got a $30 discount plus an increase in data of 50%. I now have total freedom to go with an MVNO and drop my costs even more, or just sell my old phone (still in demand), and buy a new one like a Nexus 6P (Aluminum 64GB is on order). I can't tell you how great it feels to be out of the clutches of a carrier. Maybe there is a cost of freedom, but I am willing to pay it...

Capisce?

BTW, who still pays for LD? I stopped that when I got rid of my last rotary dial phone.

Postscript: I bought a new in the box Amazon 64GB Fire Phone for $149. That includes one year of free Amazon Prime. So really, the phone cost me only $50. Very crappy operating system, but I put CM11 on it and now it is a real nice phone. The hardware is actually pretty good. No need to spend $700 on a good phone.

 

[syspry]

Yeah you're right numbers DO matter. The difference is that I'm not cozy telling the general public what the exact numbers of my finances are so I used an example scenario instead. The point you missed is that for my actual plan, my legacy corporate plan does in fact amount to about $500 less over 2 years buying on contract than any current plan on any carrier offering a BYOD discount regardless of whether I posted an example scenario or my actual bill for you to look at.