Well I'll go back to everyone does that make you feel better? And I completely doubt that they'll sell 4 million before the year is out that's ridiculous.
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Well I'll go back to everyone does that make you feel better? And I completely doubt that they'll sell 4 million before the year is out that's ridiculous.
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It's not really "Pure" Android.
It's close to AOSP but it's not really Pure. Basically, what you're seeing on the Pixel is Google's vision of Android.
Many of it is part of AOSP. But some stuff like the extra Google stuff are proprietary and not part of AOSP.
And if someone says that Google Assistant is a value add well fair enough... But you can get it on any Android phone through Allo.. Its just built in natively to the Pixel.
He's comparing it to the competition, the Note 7 and iPhone 7+, etc. Those phones do not match those features. The 6P is a 2015 phone with 2015 specs and, as proven earlier in this thread, is soundly beaten by the Pixel XL - even if you don't think it's by much, it's still losing on almost every category. But to be fair, the 6P loses to the Note 7 and iPhone 7 on almost all of the same categories, so it's nothing against the 6P, it's just that no 2015 phone can compete with the 3 flagships of Q3/Q4 2016.
It also has an Assistant Preview and is entirely text input and output, while the real Assistant interacts both directions with voice.
I am not the one changing the story every time I post, I do agree the phone is expensive there is no doubt. I also wish Google would have priced it lower, but at the end of the day I also realize that if we are comparing other phones that are considered premium it falls inline with those prices. Feature wise I am not sure what to tell you as different features mean different things to certain people.
Personally I would not pay evem $100 for a S7 because I hate Samsung's phone experience...does that make it a bad phone, nope in fact most people love it.
Time will tell how successful Google is with this new direction, so far from a marketing exposure standpoint the Pixel is everywhere where as the Nexus line in the past didnt seem to have that same market direction intentional or not
He's not alone because I also disagree.
Plus, it seems like many others are disagreeing as well since only two configurations are left in stock on the Google Store (5" 32GB Silver & Black). The Pixel XL is completely sold out on the Google Store. Sounds like they are doing OK...
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350% markup on phones and lack subsidies from carriers equals overpriced to me...........
Guys... I'm saying there's not much of a benefit if you're considering or on a 6P and want to upgrade to the Pixel. Also the Pixel is overpriced. I felt like the HTC 10 was also overpriced and made it competing with the S7 more difficult. The Pixel is probably a good phone but it's slightly overpriced. Especially considering you could get a OP3 with almost the same specs for $400. Its missing Micro SD, good water resistance, wireless charging, front facing stereo speakers (I say stereo speakers because there's a lot of wasted space on the front that could definitely be used for that instead of adding to the ugliness at least in my opinion of the phone) etc., the extra benefits that set apart (or at least supposed to set apart) the price tier between a $400-$500 phone to a $600+ phone. Its missing the added value. And SO IS THE IPHONE. I'm not arguing that I know that the iPhone is overpriced... It has always been... And I can see that they are trying to compete with the iPhone and Samsung because they changed their brand, upped the price, and are most likely going to have a harder marketing push than even the Nexus 5X and 6P had. And while making the phone more casual friendly they forgot or just didn't want to put that extra added value within the phone. If this phone had stereo speakers and at least IP67 rating I most likely wouldn't have made this post. But considering they didn't I look at the phone and it seems overpriced for what it offers hardware wise. It's very simple. Lol.
But it isn't worth the extra $150 especially if you're losing front facing speakers.
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This is not a logical comparison by any means.
You are saying that the Nexus is losing in software and audio. You are saying that the Pixel has better battery life but nobody knows that yet.
You say that the Pixel offers better security.
This is not how these things work. You can of course compare specs, but this is not everything. It is also how the phone feels in the hand, how good the build quality is and of course how smooth everything works together. I am sure that the Pixel will be no slouch, but the Nexus is also very fast. Depending on your usage you might or might not notice a difference in speed and smoothness when using both devices.
The Nexus 6P is a great phone that I enjoyed using.
You don't think a faster processor, better UI, better camera, and likely better battery life are worth the extra money?
The Nexus is losing in software and audio and security compared to the Pixel devices. That makes the Nexus devices the new close second place on security and software with the Pixel devices being the new king of both. It doesn't have the Aqstic codec from the SD821, it doesn't have Assistant, it doesn't have default file level encryption, Android 7.1, verified boot image, seamless updates, etc, etc.
The Pixel battery life being better I flat out said was an assumption and gave my reasons. More efficient SoC, same size battery, smaller screen, better software = good grounds for that assumption, but we'll see it played out.
I'm not saying the 6P is a bad device. I still have one and I really like it. I'm saying that the Pixel is undeniably better from the objective criteria that we can evaluate - and you're absolutely right that some of those subjective points will be probably much more valid than anything that appears on the spec sheet. But that's one reason I never introduce subjective points into the comparisons, because it's then "i like this" instead of, "this is better".
I've been using smartphones since October 2009 and the amount of liquid I've gotten on all of them combined could fit inside a teaspoon with room to spare. So tell me again how I find ip68 useful?
And if you think that about Google Assistant then you have no idea what it really is and where Google is going with it. Maybe you should watch the presentation from the 4th. It's pretty informational.
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With this logic, every year the new iPhone or Samsung flagship should cost 200$ more than the previous generation. The Nexus had top specs when it came out. Compare the Pixel to all current flagships. Samsung, Apple, HTC, LG,Sony and Huawei, all offer devices at similar or much cheaper price point. What is the stand out feature of the Pixel when compared to an S7 or an iPhone? What is the stand out feature of the Pixel when compared to the HTC 10 or the OnePlus 3?
If you make the comparison you will see how unjustified its price is.
The Pixel is not better than all of the above devices. It is also an ugly phone (but this is just my opinion)
When considering this phone, I ask myself, what would I get from it, that I don't have with my current device. I also ask what I would lose.
In my case I lose much more than I benefit. Having to pay a premium for this is just not logical.
If you are coming from a two year old device, then ok, the Pixel will be a great upgrade. But this is the case with any current flagship.
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