I just posted in this thread, and was ask what do you do when the Android does not efficiently kills tasks.
So, I am posing this question to you.
So, I am posing this question to you.
Discuss Task Managers/Killers Here!
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It's not that people don't believe it saves your battery. It's that you're saving your battery life without understanding the consequences, one of which you just described here.
A. ATK is not necessary ever. Find the app that is eating your battery life and uninstall it.
B. ATK reduces your phone's performance by killing things that should not be killed. This slows app launches down, and removes the suspend feature of apps.
C. It causes problems, like you saw, with many apps who depend on proper multitasking.
D. You'd save more battery by diagnosing the problem, instead of masking it with ATK.
A. ATK is not necessary ever. Find the app that is eating your battery life and uninstall it.
B. ATK reduces your phone's performance by killing things that should not be killed. This slows app launches down, and removes the suspend feature of apps.
C. It causes problems, like you saw, with many apps who depend on proper multitasking.
D. You'd save more battery by diagnosing the problem, instead of masking it with ATK.
with proper management, you can select those tasks nessessary to stay awake for things such as multi tasking. Its the same principle of removing bloat ware in root.
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There is a weird semi-circular argument coming from the developer that goes: ATK doesn't extend battery life directly, but rather kills apps that can consume a lot of battery power. Uh...that's a distinction without a difference. That's like saying prisons don't reduce crime directly, they just provide a place to put all the criminals so that they don't commit crimes.
Here's what I know: I've been despairing over the abysmal battery life of the EVO. I tried Advanced Task Manager with little effect. On Monday, I had to keep the phone on the charger most of the day and it plummeted from full to 20% in about five hours.
Last night, I loaded ATK and set it to whack just about everything and right now, after 5-1/4 hours off the charger, I'm at 59% with normal use for me. Gmail is pushing and K-9 is polling normally and apps are loading fine as far as I can see, so I'm seeing no negative effects.
Minoxidil (bka Rogaine) was originally a high blood pressure medicine that was discovered to have the side effect of causing hair growth. Likewise, ATK is a whatever than happens to extend your battery life. I don't care what the devs say; all I know is I may suddenly be able to go from 5-6 hours to 10-14 hours before needed juice.
Here's what I know: I've been despairing over the abysmal battery life of the EVO. I tried Advanced Task Manager with little effect. On Monday, I had to keep the phone on the charger most of the day and it plummeted from full to 20% in about five hours.
Last night, I loaded ATK and set it to whack just about everything and right now, after 5-1/4 hours off the charger, I'm at 59% with normal use for me. Gmail is pushing and K-9 is polling normally and apps are loading fine as far as I can see, so I'm seeing no negative effects.
Minoxidil (bka Rogaine) was originally a high blood pressure medicine that was discovered to have the side effect of causing hair growth. Likewise, ATK is a whatever than happens to extend your battery life. I don't care what the devs say; all I know is I may suddenly be able to go from 5-6 hours to 10-14 hours before needed juice.
Some apps you can't uninstall like Amazon MP3 store. It runs randomly but you cant unistall it.
Task manager and notifications
So if terminating an app just shuts down the GUI, then why, when I shut down clock for example, do my alarms not wake me up in the morning?
So if terminating an app just shuts down the GUI, then why, when I shut down clock for example, do my alarms not wake me up in the morning?
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Well, I'll chime in.
I don't know jack about Android other than I just upgraded from a Palm Pre and I'm loving the EVO. My man hands are way happier using this larger device!
Anyways, I was having awful battery issues as everyone is and I shut off GPS, turned on WiFi and started using ATK. I now have way better battery life.
I did a test as far as Android managing my apps. I used Google Sky Maps (which is really cool) one night and backed out of it with the assumption Android would close it out after not using it for a while.
It didn't. It was still running the next night when I checked ATK.
So I'm going to keep using ATK to kill non essential apps. Before I started using ATK and had the GPS on, the phone would be warm in my pocket, it was obvious that it was running applications. Now its cool in my pocket.
I think as long as you don't kill anything HTC related you'll be fine. One thread said not to kill sprint apps? really? You mean I can't kill Sprint Nascar? Bull. I killed them and I have had no negative results.
Just my $.02
I don't know jack about Android other than I just upgraded from a Palm Pre and I'm loving the EVO. My man hands are way happier using this larger device!
Anyways, I was having awful battery issues as everyone is and I shut off GPS, turned on WiFi and started using ATK. I now have way better battery life.
I did a test as far as Android managing my apps. I used Google Sky Maps (which is really cool) one night and backed out of it with the assumption Android would close it out after not using it for a while.
It didn't. It was still running the next night when I checked ATK.
So I'm going to keep using ATK to kill non essential apps. Before I started using ATK and had the GPS on, the phone would be warm in my pocket, it was obvious that it was running applications. Now its cool in my pocket.
I think as long as you don't kill anything HTC related you'll be fine. One thread said not to kill sprint apps? really? You mean I can't kill Sprint Nascar? Bull. I killed them and I have had no negative results.
Just my $.02
It doesnt just turn of the GUI, add the clock/alarms to your ignore list. Easy fix, this goes for anything you NEED to have running in the background. The email, and texts go through whether you kill them or not.
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i've always used advanced task killers and if u configure the app properly trust me it will help a lot, that app is a most have for me, coming from a my touch 3g i had to learn how to save every drop of battery life for my phone and i learn the lesson, so applying it to a better device like the evo is gonna be useful...
On advice when I purchased the EVO, I installed ATK. I hadn't used it, though, until this morning. The problem came when I tried to use SportyPal, a GPS app, to track my morning walk. I've used it successfully for several days - and it knocks me out! But, first, I wanted to try My Tracks, another GPS app. Couldn't get any positive results there. When I switched to SportyPal and found that it wouldn't work, I reasoned that My Tracks still had control of GPS
So, I tried the formula an earlier poster suggested: Settings, Applications, Manage applications...and then the OS crashed...or "hung up." After some tinkering, I got to the home screen and tried again: same result. I then went to ATK and unchecked all apps except My Tracks. I was then able to use SportyPal.
Android OS, no. ATK, yes.
I'm less than a week into this. There's lots to take in, but some of it seems unnecessarily obtuse. I can't for the life of me understand why there isn't an effortless option to close an app upon quitting the app. You wouldn't necessarily need to do this with every app, but with some it seems an obvious need. Eventually I may get it, but at this point I'm baffled.
So, I tried the formula an earlier poster suggested: Settings, Applications, Manage applications...and then the OS crashed...or "hung up." After some tinkering, I got to the home screen and tried again: same result. I then went to ATK and unchecked all apps except My Tracks. I was then able to use SportyPal.
Android OS, no. ATK, yes.
I'm less than a week into this. There's lots to take in, but some of it seems unnecessarily obtuse. I can't for the life of me understand why there isn't an effortless option to close an app upon quitting the app. You wouldn't necessarily need to do this with every app, but with some it seems an obvious need. Eventually I may get it, but at this point I'm baffled.
System Panel is a great app. That is what I use to track things. It will also let you kill a process if you want. But I let Android take care of that. I've only killed one process so far.
It is an awesome program and well desgined. You get to see lots of internals of Android. Probably more than most will care to see.
system panel should be the only one to use. it shows the TRUE running apps state. for example, all the apps listed in the "inactive cached" category are static and not using ANY resources. and if you hit the refresh button half of them may disappear in an instant as the OS needs more resources. the top category of "running apps" is the only apps that are using resources.
but if you use ATK it does not seperate things like this for you. so everyone who is using ATK to kill all these apps, thinking it helps, you really are probably killing these "inactive cached" apps, which makes no difference.
i despise ATK because it did not differentiate between the state of each app. system panel is the ONLY task manager that does this, and is the only one to use to show you what's really going on with your OS.
but if you use ATK it does not seperate things like this for you. so everyone who is using ATK to kill all these apps, thinking it helps, you really are probably killing these "inactive cached" apps, which makes no difference.
i despise ATK because it did not differentiate between the state of each app. system panel is the ONLY task manager that does this, and is the only one to use to show you what's really going on with your OS.
ATK = battery lasts all day!
After trying all of the other battery saving tricks I was getting down to about 40% battery life after about 4-5 hours with a stock Evo under moderate use until...
I installed ATK set to close on screen off and set to Aggressive. I white listed all of my 'connected' apps including email, gTalk, Web, SMS, WaveSecure, etc, etc, etc.
I have now been off the plug for 7 hours and I am at 89% battery remaining with the same usage patterns.
All I can say is WOW!
After trying all of the other battery saving tricks I was getting down to about 40% battery life after about 4-5 hours with a stock Evo under moderate use until...
I installed ATK set to close on screen off and set to Aggressive. I white listed all of my 'connected' apps including email, gTalk, Web, SMS, WaveSecure, etc, etc, etc.
I have now been off the plug for 7 hours and I am at 89% battery remaining with the same usage patterns.
All I can say is WOW!
im not a fan of autokill....sometimes when you want to use the app (gtalk for example) it keeps cutting it off....or slacker or pandora...
i rather just go in there and kill the apps that i want to kill at that time
that's the whole point, auto kill is not needed on an android device. using system panel will show you why.
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