Does pentile make the screen not truly HD?

[estebancam]

I am actually curious about this as well. I absolutely adore my GNex, but i need to learn more about pentile displays. From what i have read, the resolution on a pentile display is "fake" since they count the subpixel. Hoewever, i cant really tell with the naked eye, except on lines on the screen, and on borders, where i can see pixels. (It doesnt bother me, i actually have to look very hard). I have also read that there is no other practical way of putting so many power efficient pixels on a screen other than with the Pentile Matrix.

But im just a geek and dont know too much about the screen tech. All i know is this screen is absolutely gorgeous.

 

[Jaycemiskel]

It's still 720p whether it's pentile or not from what I understand. Pentile just has to do with how the pixels are arranged. At lower resolutions pentile screens can be noticeably pixelated but I haven't been able to tell that this screen is pentile. I'm sure this year we'll see Super Amoled HD PLUS screens but until then this screen looks great to me. Someone correct me if I'm wrong though.

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[Poopai]

720p is just that, a resolution. Whether it is pentile or not means absolutely nothing. But seriously, take from the other comments on here and just look at the screen for yourself. Bring up netflix in the store. If you dont like it dont buy it.

Pentile does mean something, as pixels share one of their subpixels with neighboring pixels. So if you have 2 neighboring pixels trying to display something, then one of those pixels is going to be lacking a subpixel, because only one of them can use the shared subpixel, which I can only imagine would reduce the overall detail displayed, and thus render the detail of the screen not truly of "HD" quality, and actually quite less than "HD" quality.

 

[odranoel]

Sharing sub-pixels means that, yes, you lose some accuracy in the color representation of adjacent pixels. However, that loss of accuracy may not be perceptible to you given the distance from your eye and the amount of difference. The resolution has not changed, however.

 

[Poopai]

It's still 720p whether it's pentile or not from what I understand. Pentile just has to do with how the pixels are arranged. At lower resolutions pentile screens can be noticeably pixelated but I haven't been able to tell that this screen is pentile. I'm sure this year we'll see Super Amoled HD PLUS screens but until then this screen looks great to me. Someone correct me if I'm wrong though.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk

From the moment I turned mine on and saw the Google logo I noticed that it was more pixelated than my OG Droid, and that "razer edge" effect is everywhere. I could barely make out a pixel on my Droid, but the Nexus hardly requires you to look for them.

 

[Poopai]

Sharing sub-pixels means that, yes, you lose some accuracy in the color representation of adjacent pixels. However, that loss of accuracy may not be perceptible to you given the distance from your eye and the amount of difference. The resolution has not changed, however.

"Technically" the resolution has not changed, but that has no meaning. The actual level of detail displayed is what matters.

 

[estebancam]

From the moment I turned mine on and saw the Google logo I noticed that it was more pixelated than my OG Droid, and that "razer edge" effect is everywhere. I could barely make out a pixel on my Droid, but the Nexus hardly requires you to look for them.

Now this, i disagree with.

 

[odranoel]

"Technically" the resolution has not changed, but that has no meaning. The actual level of detail displayed is what matters.

It does, or can, have meaning. In a RGB stripe configuration, adjacent sub-pixels will appear to the eye as a combination of the two colors. The same way you combine the colors of the sub-pixels visually to see a pixel, and at a sufficient distance, combine groups of pixels into a block. The closer you get to the display, the more noticeable the sub-pixel sharing will be; the further away you get, the less noticeable.

I'd much prefer a super AMOLED plus screen over a pentile matrix, but this is the option we have right now. As others have said to you (for months): maybe this just isn't the phone for you.

 

[ShinyTop]

He is only trying to live up to his name. He does not want discussion, he only wants to dis this phone. Check his post history. Tiresome ...

 

[Poopai]

It does, or can, have meaning. In a RGB stripe configuration, adjacent sub-pixels will appear to the eye as a combination of the two colors. The same way you combine the colors of the sub-pixels visually to see a pixel, and at a sufficient distance, combine groups of pixels into a block. The closer you get to the display, the more noticeable the sub-pixel sharing will be; the further away you get, the less noticeable.

I'd much prefer a super AMOLED plus screen over a pentile matrix, but this is the option we have right now. As others have said to you (for months): maybe this just isn't the phone for you.

And the closer you go to RGB screens, the more noticeable their subpixels will be as well. And what of it? This doesn't give calling a pentile screen 720p even though it shows less detail than an RGB screen, meaning.

 

[Poopai]

He is only trying to live up to his name. He does not want discussion, he only wants to dis this phone. Check his post history. Tiresome ...

I only wish to live up to glorious truth. And why you hate truth, I'll never understand.

 

[odranoel]

And the closer you go to RGB screens, the more noticeable their subpixels will be as well. And what of it? This doesn't give calling a pentile screen 720p even though it shows less detail than an RGB screen, meaning.

Except that displays are viewed by human beings. If most people cannot distinguish between two pixels on a particular screen at a particular distance, and partially combining them does not change the visual experience, then what is "meaningless" is arguing that one shows less detail than another. It doesn't matter how detailed the source is if the receiver cannot tell the difference. And, again, combining the sub-pixel is intended to convey the same information the viewer would've received anyway.
I hated pentile on the Bionic, and put up with my BB Storm for another couple of months until the Nexus came out. I like the screen on the Nexus. HD videos look great.

As with all human things, there will be outliers who will be able to tell. And those people should decide if it is worth living with.

 

[VideoEngineerAJS]

Maybe we should ask him if he has a Verizon anti-glare screen protector on his phone? Because I was given those when I bought the phone, I put them on and I was EXTREMELY disappointed with the screen. I could see major pixelation in whites and light colors. I dealt with it for a couple of days and then I decided to take the protector off and it was like night and day. It became the best looking screen I've ever seen. I don't know if the anti-glare coating magnifies the pixelation or if it causes it, but they are crap for this phone. The regular ones are fine, but the anti-glares suck.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus

 

[Poopai]

Except that displays are viewed by human beings. If most people cannot distinguish between two pixels on a particular screen at a particular distance, and partially combining them does not change the visual experience, then what is "meaningless" is arguing that one shows less detail than another. It doesn't matter how detailed the source is if the receiver cannot tell the difference. And, again, combining the sub-pixel is intended to convey the same information the viewer would've received anyway.
I hated pentile on the Bionic, and put up with my BB Storm for another couple of months until the Nexus came out. I like the screen on the Nexus. HD videos look great.

As with all human things, there will be outliers who will be able to tell. And those people should decide if it is worth living with.

You're only looking at things from a singular perspective, that of your inability to distinguish difference in detail while viewing the screen as you normally would, and assigning value from only that. This is of course a fallacy, as all perspectives must be examined, valued, and then added up to the ultimate value and meaning. So even if I grant you that from your singular perspective the argument is meaningless, other perspectives produce meaning, such as viewing the screen through a magnifying glass, and thus the total meaning is raised above 0, and thus to argue that one screen shows more potential detail than the other is not meaningless.

 

[Poopai]

Maybe we should ask him if he has a Verizon anti-glare screen protector on his phone? Because I was given those when I bought the phone, I put them on and I was EXTREMELY disappointed with the screen. I could see major pixelation in whites and light colors. I dealt with it for a couple of days and then I decided to take the protector off and it was like night and day. It became the best looking screen I've ever seen. I don't know if the anti-glare coating magnifies the pixelation or if it causes it, but they are crap for this phone. The regular ones are fine, but the anti-glares suck.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus

There's no screen protector my good sir.

 

[Jaycemiskel]

From the moment I turned mine on and saw the Google logo I noticed that it was more pixelated than my OG Droid, and that "razer edge" effect is everywhere. I could barely make out a pixel on my Droid, but the Nexus hardly requires you to look for them.

You must have great eyesight. I can't see it, so it works great for me. I can't fault you for not liking it though if you can see all that. I'm sure it's annoying.

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[ejaymd11]

I am actually curious about this as well. I absolutely adore my GNex, but i need to learn more about pentile displays. From what i have read, the resolution on a pentile display is "fake" since they count the subpixel. Hoewever, i cant really tell with the naked eye, except on lines on the screen, and on borders, where i can see pixels. (It doesnt bother me, i actually have to look very hard). I have also read that there is no other practical way of putting so many power efficient pixels on a screen other than with the Pentile Matrix.

But im just a geek and dont know too much about the screen tech. All i know is this screen is absolutely gorgeous.

If you "absolutely adore" your GNex then why does this matter at all? How about you take it back and get something you truly adore?!?!?

He is only trying to live up to his name. He does not want discussion, he only wants to dis this phone. Check his post history. Tiresome ...

Then why is anyone even engaging this troll? Trolls are ..... that crave attention, so stop giving the troll the attention he needs to make his life feel like it's worth something.

 

[edoublediz]

OMG this is the lamest thread! the Nexus has a gorgeous screen. any visible detrimental effects have to be scrutinized to see. you can find flaws on a Ferrari, it doesnt make it any less of a masterpiece. people who dont like the flaws dont buy the phone! its pretty simple. Poopai you are the most irritating person i have ever read on a forum! i cant believe you even had the nerve to buy this damn phone! you just couldnt resist the appeal of a new phone with ICS even though you said before it was even announced you did not like anything about it and it was already technologically DOA when it did ship!!!! why oh why?

 

[Poopai]

If you "absolutely adore" your GNex then why does this matter at all? How about you take it back and get something you truly adore?!?!?

You can always spot the dogmatic through their tireless defensiveness over even the smallest inquiries into their supposed god's claims to godliness.

 

[ultravisitor]

Why do people bother responding to this known troll?