Does the lack of LTE Bands on the Moto X Pure Edition bother you?

[oldDummy]

https://forums.motorola.com/posts/d766a5d90a?page=4

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Good news for all...now about band 12......?

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Band 12 will not be supported in Pure Moto X

 

[jidery]

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Band 12 will not be supported in Pure Moto X

Bummer. Wonder if its hardware related or they just don't want to put the effort into unlocking it?

 

[oldDummy]

Bummer. Wonder if its hardware related or they just don't want to put the effort into unlocking it?

At a guess: Hardware

 

[sharkita]

I questioned if I should get the AT&T model or the pure. Everyone on here said that the AT&T model would have bloat,carrier logo,be locked and be worth less $$$ than the PURE if/when I go to sell. I think in most instances this would be correct. But now with the lack of LTE bands on the Pure edition I am thinking I might have to cancel. I travel ( Mexico,Philippines,Japan) and would worry my phone might not work in some countries. Am I correct in thinking this? If this is true it would sure be a bummer

I have the AT&T model, and the logo is right there on the back of the phone of course. As far as bloat is concerned, I have disabled 8 AT&T specific apps and 4 others so far (like the Moto Spotlight Player and Google Korean keyboard), and there are probably a few more I can disable when I get around to it, but it's not too bad. I have the 32 gig model, so I'm not worried about space, but if you get a 16 gig model then bloat might indeed be a real problem.

 

[sharkita]

https://forums.motorola.com/posts/d766a5d90a?page=4

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Good news for all...now about band 12......?

Awesome! I should have gotten the Pure Edition and will certainly do so with the third generation of this phone (we all know there will be one, right?), since when Android L comes out I'll be miffed I have to wait for AT&T to release it.

 

[globster2000]

Bummer. Wonder if its hardware related or they just don't want to put the effort into unlocking it?

Its hardware related. It seems from the spec list I saw last week that xt1097 is the same as xt1095, but xt1095 blocked all bands except 2,4,17.

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[diablo9]

Unfortunately this is still a fairly weak offering of LTE bands. For example, the Pure will only boast a handful of the new iPhone 6's supported bands including the TD-LTE bands (which means no Sprint spark network). Here is what is supported by the iPhone 6 A1586/A1524:

1 (2100 MHz)
2 (1900 MHz)
3 (1800 MHz)
4 (AWS)
5 (850 MHz)
7 (2600 MHz)
8 (900 MHz)
13 (700c MHz)
17 (700b MHz)
18 (800 MHz)
19 (800 MHz)
20 (800 DD)
25 (1900 MHz)
26 (800 MHz)
28 (700 APT MHz)
29 (700 de MHz)
38 (TD 2600)
39 (TD 1900)
40 (TD 2300)
41 (TD 2500)

 

[BiggAW]

At a guess: Hardware

Exactly. It never had B12 from the get-go. Since B12 is a superset of B17, I thought AT&T promised to stop using B17 in their phones and switch to using B12, but I guess that never happened...

Unfortunately this is still a fairly weak offering of LTE bands. For example, the Pure will only boast a handful of the new iPhone 6's supported bands including the TD-LTE bands (which means no Sprint spark network). Here is what is supported by the iPhone 6 A1586/A1524:

2/4/5/17 is the standard domestic set for AT&T LTE phones, with 3 and 7 thrown in for global roaming on some of the better ones. The iPhone is the only phone that has that wide of band support. For some reason, a lot of AT&T phones still don't support UMTS 900, while all Verizon global phones do. Weird.

It's kind of ironic that Apple is leading the pack on band support after they were the last manufacturer to the LTE game. However, Apple likes to make as few versions of their hardware as possible, and they are in the driver's seat, so they just make whatever the heck they want, while on the Android phones, the carriers are in the drivers seat. Even the Pure Edition is an AT&T-designed piece of hardware that just has no bloat. When AT&T designs hardware, they only put in the bands they use. Same for Verizon or any other carrier.

 

[e30ernest]

https://forums.motorola.com/posts/d766a5d90a?page=4

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Good news for all...now about band 12......?

I wonder, has this been implemented with the Android 5.0 update? Thanks!

 

[cgardnervt]

I wonder, has this been implemented with the Android 5.0 update? Thanks!

Word out on the street is yes.

 

[e30ernest]

Word out on the street is yes.

Awesome! I'm importing one from the USA to the Philippines to replace my Nexus 4. My Nexus 4 is going to my wife since her iPhone 5 just died.

 

[BiggAW]

I wonder, has this been implemented with the Android 5.0 update? Thanks!

Just to be clean, it would be 2/3/4/5/7/17, NOT B12. I think that's what you meant, but the quote suggests B12... As far as we know, the hardware doesn't have B12 support.

 

[e30ernest]

Nope I don't need B12. I needed either B2 or 3, I forgot which of the two.

 

[laytoncy]

Is this a non issue now? I'm on AT&T and looking at purchasing the Pure Edition as well. I've read through the thread and never once worried about bands when purchasing a device. This is what I find on the Moto site which seems to be different than what is listed on page 1 of this thread from FCC filings. I don't see any difference between the Pure Edition and the AT&T model. I admit to not have much if any knowledge about this subject but from a consumer point of view I see no difference unless Moto is not telling the whole story on the specs page for the Moto X.

Moto X - Pure Edition (GSM Unlocked with T-Mo SIM - XT1095):

GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
UMTS/HSPA+ (850, 900, 1700 (AWS), 1900, 2100 MHz)
4G LTE (2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 17)

AT&T (XT1097):

GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
UMTS/HSPA+ (850, 900, 1700 (AWS), 1900, 2100 MHz)
4G LTE (2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 17)

Verizon (XT1096):

GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
UMTS/HSPA+ (850, 900, 1900, 2100 MHz)
CDMA (850, 1900 MHz)
4G LTE (2, 3, 4, 7, 13)

USC (XT1093):

GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
UMTS/HSPA+ (850, 900, 1800, 1900, 2100 MHz)
CDMA (800, 850, 1900 MHz)
4G LTE (2, 4, 5, 12, 17, 25)

 

[BiggAW]

Nope I don't need B12. I needed either B2 or 3, I forgot which of the two.

B2 is PCS, B3 is for global roaming. Both are usable on AT&T, obviously B3 would require a roaming package.

 

[tr-1]

Just wanted to report that I just activated Pure Edition Moto X on AT&T in Boston area and I immediately got 4G LTE full strength signal.
That's all. Great phone!

 

[BiggAW]

Just wanted to report that I just activated Pure Edition Moto X on AT&T in Boston area and I immediately got 4G LTE full strength signal.
That's all. Great phone!

That has nothing to do with this thread, since AT&T has B17 spectrum in that area.