Engadget: VZW version is for consumers, GSM version is for devs

Also the people that said "just give us the phone, I dont care if it has bugs" wow.. 1. Verizon wouldnt be succeeding if they were this dumb.. as to release a phone with bugs and deal with the customer service backlash of returns, and extra support to solve issues for customers...

Apparently you haven't seen the launches of the Thunderbolt, Droid X², Droid 3, Droid Bionic, etc. in addition to the problems with 4G connections in general.



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Been sleeping on this and even though the phone says nexus this seems to b like the original Droid. Stock phone like the nexus. But os was updated from vzw.n

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What on Earth would make you think Verizon is responsible for the OS updates? There a carrier, not developers. That makes no sense whatsoever.
 
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What on Earth would make you think Verizon is responsible for the OS updates? There a carrier, not developers. That makes no sense whatsoever.

Think he means that VZW is responsible for pushing the updates, meaning having to go through vzw quality control before pushing out meaning a lag in updates
 
That is correct.
Think he means that VZW is responsible for pushing the updates, meaning having to go through vzw quality control before pushing out meaning a lag in updates



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Think he means that VZW is responsible for pushing the updates, meaning having to go through vzw quality control before pushing out meaning a lag in updates

All carriers do that, regardless of if it is a Nexus or not. The update itself, however, will be pushed directly from Google to handsets.

You guys need to get your terms straight; 'pushing' means actually issuing the update to end users. Verizon will of course check the update for QC, but only in regards to network interaction.
 
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Been sleeping on this and even though the phone says nexus this seems to b like the original Droid. Stock phone like the nexus. But os was updated from vzw.

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Nope. You'd be wrong.

For the last time people:


OS Updates for Nexus devices are issued directly by Google, from Google servers. PERIOD.
 
I will say it again because people keep talking about lag. I have not experienced any lag for updates on my Sprint Nexus S 4G relative to the GSM model.

It is pure speculation that the addition of ATT and Verizon in the US will break and stagger update schedules.
 
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all carriers do that, regardless of if it is a nexus or not. The update itself, however, will be pushed directly from google to handsets.

You guys need to get your terms straight; 'pushing' means actually issuing the update to end users. Verizon will of course check the update for qc, but only in regards to network interaction.

GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAL! (Oems fits in the equation as well, though)
 
All carriers do that, regardless of if it is a Nexus or not. The update itself, however, will be pushed directly from Google to handsets.

You guys need to get your terms straight; 'pushing' means actually issuing the update to end users. Verizon will of course check the update for QC, but only in regards to network interaction.

I think we all know that, but your missing the context of this whole thread.

The OP is saying that perhaps the VZW version of the Nexus isn't a true Nexus. It would be a "consumer" variation of the phone, locked down by VZW and loaded with some bloat, and Verizon would internally test the updates before pushing them to the end user.

I'm sure that won't happen, but that was the discussion.

Non - Nexus android phones have to wait for VZW to push the updates. Nobody said they compile them.

I think its a "What If" thread, rather than people stating misinformation about what a Nexus truly is.

Except for those that think a Nexus is Supposed to be pre-bloated for consumer protection. Haha :)

Hopefully the damn thing will come out soon, and we can all get past the rumors, conspiracys, and speculation.

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I think we all know that, but your missing the context of this whole thread.

The OP is saying that perhaps the VZW version of the Nexus isn't a true Nexus. It would be a "consumer" variation of the phone, locked down by VZW and loaded with some bloat, and Verizon would internally test the updates before pushing them to the end user.

I'm sure that won't happen, but that was the discussion.

Non - Nexus android phones have to wait for VZW to push the updates. Nobody said they compile them.

I think its a "What If" thread, rather than people stating misinformation about what a Nexus truly is.

Except for those that think a Nexus is Supposed to be pre-bloated for consumer protection. Haha :)

Hopefully the damn thing will come out soon, and we can all get past the rumors, conspiracys, and speculation.

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I understand the context. I also understand that its completely baseless, made by people that, apparently, know nothing about nexus devices.

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this is more talking about something people don't understand.

Dev phone = more features to test applications (can be disabled by default).

Consumer phone = no such features.

The iPhone is a dev phone in some senses, even though there is an emulator for it.
 
You can buy a GSM nexus unlocked and workimg on any GSM carrier with no bloat. There for its more developer friendly.

VZW Nexus is locked, carrier tagged, and some bloat and tied to only one carrier. Yes it can be unlocked but after u connect it to PC and run some commands. This version is just like the Xoom, & original Droid. Both devices will have developers but not as many as the GSM version.

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You can buy a GSM nexus unlocked and workimg on any GSM carrier with no bloat. There for its more developer friendly.

VZW Nexus is locked, carrier tagged, and some bloat and tied to only one carrier.

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The Sprint Nexus is just as friendly as the GSM Nexus. No bloat.

We really really should stop all this speculation.
 
And sprint isnt as large as vzw there for it doesn't have the pull to demand stuff.
The Sprint Nexus is just as friendly as the GSM Nexus. No bloat.

We really really should stop all this speculation.



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You can buy a GSM nexus unlocked and workimg on any GSM carrier with no bloat. There for its more developer friendly.

VZW Nexus is locked, carrier tagged, and some bloat and tied to only one carrier. Yes it can be unlocked but after u connect it to PC and run some commands. This version is just like the Xoom, & original Droid. Both devices will have developers but not as many as the GSM version.

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Welcome to the world of 4G networks that are not interoperable. It has nothing to do with Verizon, and everything to do with the underlying technology and spectrum limitations. Its no different than the 3G Nexus S not being able to be used on T-mobile AND AT&T interchangingly. Did you offer any similar criticism back then? What about a Nexus S 4G?

You're talking about two different issues, and frankly, you're missing the point. The GSM version is no more or less developer friendly than the LTE version. It is not 'locked' or any other nonsense. People will develop on both, and both will see a great deal of interest.
 
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You can buy a GSM nexus unlocked and workimg on any GSM carrier with no bloat. There for its more developer friendly.

VZW Nexus is locked, carrier tagged, and some bloat and tied to only one carrier. Yes it can be unlocked but after u connect it to PC and run some commands. This version is just like the Xoom, & original Droid. Both devices will have developers but not as many as the GSM version.

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Not always unless you are fine with 2g/edge speeds. If it isn't penta band it won't work with all of tmo and att network.
 
The GSM nexus 16gb is pentaband so hapsa+ plus works
Not always unless you are fine with 2g/edge speeds. If it isn't penta band it won't work with all of tmo and att network.



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