EVO 3D Support Group For Palm webOS Users

[Wiley_11]

That's what I've been doing but I don't get the match in 2 letters, it may take an entire first name if the contact has a common first name like Dave or John.
Yeah, the Evo 3D is a Porsche but it still needs a little fine tuning under the hood.

When I type one letter it will highlight in green every contact that starts the first or last name with that letter. I sync my contacts with gmail, I don't know if that makes a difference.

I just spent 2 years and 10 days with the Pre. What little tuning the E3D needs is fine with me after that POS..

 

[milominderbinde]

...With Android, I have to type the entire first name, then the first letter of the last to get a match (when the contact has the same first name as others). Anyone know if this can be changed?

It is much easier than that. For instance to find "Mike Patch", just start typing "PA" and the name will be right on screen as one of your options. If your Android device does not have a physical keyboard, tap the Search key then start typing "PA". You can customize what search results you want to include.

But this points to a philosophical difference between webOS and Android. webOS thinks that you want to look at Mike Patch's photo. Android thinks you want to send a text, email, call, or do something.

Let's say you stuck in construction traffic and want to text Mike Patch "Stuck in traffic but will be there in 20 minutes"

This text in webOS is 54 keystrokes:
1. When you turn on your webOS device, webOS thinks it is to look at the background picture.
2. Then when you type their name.
3. When you select their name, "Mike Patch", webOS thinks you want to look at their picture.
4. Then you choose to text them
5. Type the text message:"Stuck in traffic but will be there in 20 minutes"
6. Tap Send

In Android, instead of typing (and getting a ticket in 30 states)...

This text in Android is 2 keystrokes
1. When you turn on the Android device, it thinks you want to launch an app.
2. Long-press Search and say "Text Mike Patch Stuck in traffic but will be there in 20 minutes"
3. Tap Send

In two keystroke in webOS, you can find a contact. In two keystrokes in Android you sent the full text.

In this example Android saved you 98% of the keystrokes...and 100% of the ticket.

See the Getting Started section on Search and Voice Actions for much more on how to use and customize these features.

 

[VickMackey#AC]

I bigger Pre2 with more apps is exactly what I want. I love the form factor, and the way Android apps emulate WebOS's best features look clunky.

My pre couldn't even answer calls. That thing froze when calls came in. Biggest POS ever. Don't miss it at ALL. Good luck to you mate, I hope "perceived" usability and elegance trumps the real deal.

 

[patchs]

It is much easier than that. For instance to find "Mike Patch", just start typing "PA" and the name will be right on screen as one of your options. If your Android device does not have a physical keyboard, tap the Search key then start typing "PA". You can customize what search results you want to include.

But this points to a philosophical difference between webOS and Android. webOS thinks that you want to look at Mike Patch's photo. Android thinks you want to send a text, email, call, or do something.

Let's say you stuck in construction traffic and want to text Mike Patch "Stuck in traffic but will be there in 20 minutes"

This simple text in webOS is 54 keystrokes:
1. When you turn on your webOS device, webOS thinks it is to look at the background picture.
2. Then when you type their name.
3. When you select their name, "Mike Patch", webOS thinks you want to look at their picture.
4. Then you choose to text them
5. Type the text message:"Stuck in traffic but will be there in 20 minutes"
6. Tap Send

In Android, instead of typing (and getting a ticket in 30 states)...

This simple text in Android is 2 keystrokes
1. When you turn on the Android device, it thinks you want to launch an app.
2. Long-press Search and say "Text Mike Patch Stuck in traffic but will be there in 20 minutes"
3. Tap Send

In two keystroke in webOS, you can find a contact. In two keystrokes in Android you sent the full text.

In this example Android saved you 98% of the keystrokes...and 100% of the ticket.

See the Getting Started section on Search and Voice Actions for much more on how to use and customize these features.

First, thanks for all the great info, I have your how to page bookmarked.
I am getting used to having voice command, it takes a little getting used to that.
But it's still disappointing have to type in more than 2 letters to find a contact.
If I want to look up Dave Coleman, with Web OS, it was just DC, then I'd select from the 2 contacts that had that same initials.
With Android, if I type C-O-L, I get Colleens, Collins, Collinses.
If I type D-A, I get every Dave, Dale, Dan, Darrin, David, you get the point.
I have to do more searching then I did on Web OS, which was just D-C.
Don't get me wrong, overall, Android is better than Web OS in most functions and I love my Evo 3D, great hardware.
But this is the 1 thing I wish I could change.

 

[ZenZimZaliben]

I loved...Loved my Palm Pre! Running 1Ghz, Completely custom kernel, tons of cool apps, roms,mods....

With that said... I just upgraded to the HTC EVO 3d. (Not for the camera). But nice hardware specs. Open OS and already people are temp rooting it. Very promising. Ok, I admit the camera did turn out to be pretty cool.

The EVO 3d is just awesome. The only thing I do miss from WebOS is the Card system, although andriod does have a pretty slick take on it.

What an awesome thread. I was like "Hey that is ME!" Glad to be here! Can already tell I am going to learn a ton about Andriod on this forum.

 

[milominderbinde]

...some things that annoy the living crap out of me...
1) the damn zoom buttons...in ... basically any other app that uses the browser.
2) the damn buttons on the bottom are too sensitive...
3)the music player skips and acts funky...
4)voice dial keeps popping up randomly and i don't know why or how to get rid of it...
5) not being able to swipe between the three launcher pages
7)this is not multitasking. im sorry, its ****, im sure it'll improve as time goes on...

1) See the Getting Started, first section, that shows how to pinch out. It is so easy to pinch in and out that developers try not to use screen space on zoom buttons.
2) Button sensativiy is different on different phones. On my Pre I have to really mash the buttons..
3) Check out the Getting Started section on Applications for favorites Music Players: Music Player • Meridian • TuneWiki (with lyrics). Nothing is as good as the webOS Music Player (Remix).
4) You are hitting the homescreen Voice Dial icon- Remove it. Press Back to back out of an app.
5/6) On the EVO 3D just swipe left or right to move home screens. You get seven now!
7) You are used to doing your own mutitasking by hand. Android Multitasking is automatic. Try a card app like Perfect Task Switcher, Visual Task Switcher, Wave Launcher, or Itching Thumb. I like Perfect Task the best but they all slow you down.

See the Palm webOS Homebrewer's Guide to Android for help getting up to speed quickly.

 

[milominderbinde]

...The EVO 3d is just awesome. The only thing I do miss from WebOS is the Card system, although andriod does have a pretty slick take on it...

Try a card app like Perfect Task Switcher, Visual Task Switcher, Wave Launcher, or Itching Thumb. I like Perfect Task the best but they all slow you down.


See the Palm webOS Homebrewer's Guide to Android for help getting up to speed quickly.

 

[ryang]

I found it funny that I was able to print to my HP printer from my new EVO using an official HP app, however my Pre lacked this "coming soon" feature for 2 years.

 

[Gantry]

First, thanks for all the great info, I have your how to page bookmarked.
I am getting used to having voice command, it takes a little getting used to that.
But it's still disappointing have to type in more than 2 letters to find a contact.
If I want to look up Dave Coleman, with Web OS, it was just DC, then I'd select from the 2 contacts that had that same initials.
With Android, if I type C-O-L, I get Colleens, Collins, Collinses.
If I type D-A, I get every Dave, Dale, Dan, Darrin, David, you get the point.
I have to do more searching then I did on Web OS, which was just D-C.
Don't get me wrong, overall, Android is better than Web OS in most functions and I love my Evo 3D, great hardware.
But this is the 1 thing I wish I could change.

I'm in the same boat patchs, just too used to the initial technique - you get less hits when you do first & last. Though the voice commands are great, definitely get started with those.

Patching was discussed a little ways back, but I have a "patch" question or request to use WebOS parlance. Like most people with an Evo I don't give two craps about a 3D camera. I REALLY miss the vibrate/ringer switch on my Palms, any way to get the Evo's 2D/3D switch to emulate that? Probably involves rooting, but I figure I would ask...

 

[Wiley_11]

I'm in the same boat patchs, just too used to the initial technique - you get less hits when you do first & last. Though the voice commands are great, definitely get started with those.

Patching was discussed a little ways back, but I have a "patch" question or request to use WebOS parlance. Like most people with an Evo I don't give two craps about a 3D camera. I REALLY miss the vibrate/ringer switch on my Palms, any way to get the Evo's 2D/3D switch to emulate that? Probably involves rooting, but I figure I would ask...

There's a widget called "Profile" that will do what you want, I think. Go to Personalize (hold any blank spot on any launcher screen for 2 seconds or tap Personalize) >Widgets>Browse all HTC widgets>scroll sideways to #44"Profile". It has vibrate only,ring and vibrate,no ring or vibrate. I also find #41 very useful, "Brightness" which has low/medium/high brightness control.

 

[Nachtswerg]

Add me to the expat list. I really wanted to hold out for the Pre3, but Sprint's lack of support for the new device pushed me over the edge.

My wife has an original Evo, so I've had plenty of chances to play. The only thing I think I'll miss is the Touchstone. At least I have plenty of micro-USB cables for charging...

 

[sjamie]

I am about to make the switch to the E3D today. How do pics and vids taken with the E3D compare to the Pre's?

 

[Gantry]

Pics are definitely better, I don't really shoot video...

 

[cheechmo]

I am about to make the switch to the E3D today. How do pics and vids taken with the E3D compare to the Pre's?

Other than the green hue issue, way better.

 

[teabiscuit69]

1) See the Getting Started, first section, that shows how to pinch out. It is so easy to pinch in and out that developers try not to use screen space on zoom buttons.
2) Button sensativiy is different on different phones. On my Pre I have to really mash the buttons..
3) Check out the Getting Started section on Applications for favorites Music Players: Music Player ? Meridian ? TuneWiki (with lyrics). Nothing is as good as the webOS Music Player (Remix).
4) You are hitting the homescreen Voice Dial icon- Remove it. Press Back to back out of an app.
5/6) On the EVO 3D just swipe left or right to move home screens. You get seven now!
7) You are used to doing your own mutitasking by hand. Android Multitasking is automatic. Try a card app like Perfect Task Switcher, Visual Task Switcher, Wave Launcher, or Itching Thumb. I like Perfect Task the best but they all slow you down.

See the Palm webOS Homebrewer's Guide to Android for help getting up to speed quickly.

Okay, the pinch to zoom thing, yeah, i know, webos's webkit browser is the same as android, but why are there +/- buttons on my stumbleupon app? i hate it, i know its the developer, and im just being a *****.

the three launcher pages im talking about aren't webos related, i mean when you hit the launcher button in sense, you get a page all apps, frequent, and downloaded, i just wish you could swipe between them, it just seems like it would be natural.

as for the voice dial thing, from reading a post before yours about the texting while driving by longpress search button, yeah, thats where im popping up the voice thing, can i disable that? i do not talk into my phone, barely even for phone calls, i text and waste time stumbling the internet, and music.

along those lines too, ive found that the keyboard annoys me, the ".com" key is more of a pain then its worth, id rather just have the larger space bar, and the "mic" key for talk to text, yeah, again i want that gone, i don't talk to my phone. any homebrew options for any of this?

thanks.

 

[cheechmo]

Okay, the pinch to zoom thing, yeah, i know, webos's webkit browser is the same as android, but why are there +/- buttons on my stumbleupon app? i hate it, i know its the developer, and im just being a *****.

the three launcher pages im talking about aren't webos related, i mean when you hit the launcher button in sense, you get a page all apps, frequent, and downloaded, i just wish you could swipe between them, it just seems like it would be natural.

as for the voice dial thing, from reading a post before yours about the texting while driving by longpress search button, yeah, thats where im popping up the voice thing, can i disable that? i do not talk into my phone, barely even for phone calls, i text and waste time stumbling the internet, and music.

along those lines too, ive found that the keyboard annoys me, the ".com" key is more of a pain then its worth, id rather just have the larger space bar, and the "mic" key for talk to text, yeah, again i want that gone, i don't talk to my phone. any homebrew options for any of this?

thanks.

There are plenty of other keyboards on the market that you can try. A lot of people like the Swiftkey X Beta keyboard right now.

 

[cgardnervt]

I just got my Evo last night and so far I am loving it! I do miss WebOS still! Card view was just that awesome!

For now I am an Android user until my next contact! Then I will take another look HP.

 

[DanPLC]

I've been playing with a bunch of alternate keyboards and finally settled back on the standard Android keyboard. For some reason I like it better than the rest.

 

[DanPLC]

I just got my Evo last night and so far I am loving it! I do miss WebOS still! Card view was just that awesome!

For now I am an Android user until my next contact! Then I will take another look HP.

Other than getting used to a soft keyboard, not controlling which apps are open (via cards) was the most jarring experience when first using my Evo. It was unsettling to let the OS control which apps were open. But now I'm used to it. I just swipe down on the notifications and it lists the recently used apps. So it's pretty easy to switch between apps. And with the 1GB of RAM on the Evo, it keeps a lot of apps open at a time.

Overall I'm really enjoying Android. I've set up 3 home screens with my favorite apps, settings, and widgets. And I'm really digging the live wallpapers. And of course the larger screen, especially while browsing, is a joy. And all the cool apps...

 

[Ajamin24#AC]

It is much easier than that. For instance to find "Mike Patch", just start typing "PA" and the name will be right on screen as one of your options. If your Android device does not have a physical keyboard, tap the Search key then start typing "PA". You can customize what search results you want to include.

But this points to a philosophical difference between webOS and Android. webOS thinks that you want to look at Mike Patch's photo. Android thinks you want to send a text, email, call, or do something.

Let's say you stuck in construction traffic and want to text Mike Patch "Stuck in traffic but will be there in 20 minutes"

This text in webOS is 54 keystrokes:
1. When you turn on your webOS device, webOS thinks it is to look at the background picture.
2. Then when you type their name.
3. When you select their name, "Mike Patch", webOS thinks you want to look at their picture.
4. Then you choose to text them
5. Type the text message:"Stuck in traffic but will be there in 20 minutes"
6. Tap Send

In Android, instead of typing (and getting a ticket in 30 states)...

This text in Android is 2 keystrokes
1. When you turn on the Android device, it thinks you want to launch an app.
2. Long-press Search and say "Text Mike Patch Stuck in traffic but will be there in 20 minutes"
3. Tap Send

....

Dont get me wrong, i love the fact that voice to text is an option but its far from perfect. in a perfect world Android maybe quick but thats not where most of us live. Background sounds, annunciation, dialect, the simple fact your stuck in traffic and are already annoyed cause your running late. The times I have tried voice to text, or voice search for that matter, my 3D has gotten it wrong. For someone brand new to Android from WebOS, I can say it is currently alot easier to use one hand start typing "PAT", tap to expand Mike's contact info, tap the text icon, then type "there in 20", enter, slide close.

searching is still a sore spot for me when it comes to Android vs WebOS. Until i get used to my 3D and figure out the short cuts... Ohhh and by the way, I would have never thought to use the long press to search for Mike AND send the text at the same time GREAT TIP... I will still miss the pre's all in one search.

To be fair though the Pre doesnt hold a candle to the 3D's speed. HTC makes great products and i wouldnt have switched for any other maker or OS/UI. Sense 3.0 + Android = Winning! (I know thats old but it works)