Forget using the SD card?

[bertsirkin]

I came to Android from IOS. On that platform, there were no SD cards - everything was stored in the internal RAM - and I had no problems like the JPEG or folder corruption that I've also experienced on my Note 3 - and I've only had it for 2 weeks!.

On IOS, I had 32gb of RAM and was able to store ALL images, music, apps, etc in that 32gb without a problem. I just checked the current INTERNAL storage on my Note 3, and see that I have 26gb of internal RAM available. I also see that I have 6.5gb USED on my SD card.

I'm wondering, if there's a reason why I wouldn't want to store EVERYTHING in internal memory and forget about using an SD card.

bert

 

[MiXoLoGiSt]

OK because I know someone else will, it's not RAM you are talking about here. You are talking about storage. RAM is memory, not storage.

Now to your question.... It could be due to the files on your SD card. Having it in internal memory may be better as your SD card might not be all that great. The only reason people run SD cards is to free up some space on internal storage on the phone. If you feel you have enough space to store everything on the internal phone storage then there's no reason you absolutely need to use an SD card.

What kind of SD card do you have and what class is it?

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[bertsirkin]

<<What kind of SD card do you have and what class is it? >>
It's an Adata class 10 card.

<<You are talking about storage. RAM is memory, not storage>>
OK, now I'm confused. I think what you're talking about is the difference between static and dynamic RAM - but they're both RAM. Isn't it just symantics?

 

[AuburnGrad]

I personally haven't had any of the corruption issues with the SD Card. I have a Class 10 Transcend 64gb.

I put it in the phone and let the phone format it, as I have never had an issue when I went this route. Then I loaded it with my music. Roughly 30 GB. I have more, but didn't need to fill the card completely, and will just change what I have on it. I also have Google Music, with all of my music loaded, so I can always get to any song out of my roughly 85 gb. Between Google and what I will listen to most on the card, I am covered. And the phones memory will support everything else for me.

 

[bertsirkin]

Well, I had previously ordered a SanDisk Mobile Ultra Class 10 card and it was just delivered today. When I get home, I'll try moving everything over to that card and see how that works.

Thanks,
bert

 

[AuburnGrad]

Well, I had previously ordered a SanDisk Mobile Ultra Class 10 card and it was just delivered today. When I get home, I'll try moving everything over to that card and see how that works.

Thanks,
bert

Like I said, load it in the phone blank, and go have the phone format it, before putting your files on it.

 

[japetty]

Well, I had previously ordered a SanDisk Mobile Ultra Class 10 card and it was just delivered today. When I get home, I'll try moving everything over to that card and see how that works.

Thanks,
bert

I would not move anything from the old SD chip to the new one cause if you have corrupted files on the old chip you would just be moving your issue to the new chip. Corrupted files do not uncorrupt themselves be very careful. I don't know where you got your new chip but I do know that brand is somewhat expensive but the do have a good warranty which I have used in the past. Good luck with your new chip and your new phone. I hope you enjoy the android OS. I never owned iOS and never plan to do so.

 

[TabGuy]

OK, now I'm confused. I think what you're talking about is the difference between static and dynamic RAM - but they're both RAM. Isn't it just symantics?

To use a PC (or Mac) as a metaphor, storage is the equivalent to a hard disk. You can replace a hard disk on a PC with an SSD but it's still called a disk. RAM on a phone is just like RAM on a PC, when you turn off the phone the RAM goes blank. Your iPhone had 1gb or RAM, the Note 3 has 3gb or RAM.

Aside: Static and Dynamic are types of RAM and are not related to permanent storage such as SSD, SD or hard disks. Both static and dynamic ram go blank when power is lost (as opposed to SSD or SD which keeps info after power is shut off). Dynamic RAM requires a constant pulse of power to keep its information while static ram does not. Static RAM is significantly faster than dynamic RAM but dynamic RAM is much cheaper than static and, for that reason, is used almost exclusively these days.

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[GtoJon]

I would not copy from your corrupt card to the new card! I have seen a few reviews of Adata cards that weren't great. I have a Sandisk Class 10 64gb & have not had any issues

Cheers, Jon

Well, I had previously ordered a SanDisk Mobile Ultra Class 10 card and it was just delivered today. When I get home, I'll try moving everything over to that card and see how that works.

Thanks,
bert

 

[bertsirkin]

Like I said, load it in the phone blank, and go have the phone format it, before putting your files on it.

Well, I put the new SD card (32gb Sandisk Ultra SDHC UHS Class 1) in the phone, went to Setup/Storage and tried to format the card. The format seemed to take only a few seconds, which seemed too quick. I left it in for a while after, thinking it was still doing something. I then shut the phone down and put the SD card in my desktop and Windows wanted to format it. I didn't format it, but put it back in the camera, but then, the only option in the Setup/Storage menu was to "Mount" the SD card. But that option didn't do anything, and I had no option to format. I ended up formatting (full, not quick) on my desktop (FAT32) and then copied the files over. Most of the files (images and music), I already had on my desktop, so I didn't copy these from the old card, as many of those were corrupt, but I did copy 2 of the android folders from the old card.

It seems to be working, but it will take a bit more of listening to music and taking pictures before I know one-way or the other.

Thanks for all of the help.

bert

 

[TheMacs]

I got a 64GB Sandisk ultra cheap not too long ago. (You can get a lotta porn on that baby! )

Like others, I keep a good bit of audio/video media there, and some semi-important files. I also highly recommend Google Drive, Dropbox, Box, SugarSync (yes, I have/use them all).

Hope you're enjoying your Note. Cheers

 

[bertsirkin]

Well, I'm getting tired of the Note 3 very quickly. I initially had an ADATA 32gb class 10 SD card. That was getting corrupted constantly. Then I got a 32gb Sandisk Ultra UHS Class 1 /Class 10 card. It was OK for a short time, but now, I'm getting corruption again.

I tried downloading an app that needed space on the SD card, but during the installation, got an error that the files couldn't be created on the SD card.

I checked the SD card and a few JPEG images are corrupted. There was a folder named "Android". I'm not sure what was in there, but this is what it looks like now:



Note that the "A" in Android is now the Greek letter "mu".

Am I the only person getting this kind of corruption? Does anyone have an idea why this is happening?

bert

 

[AuburnGrad]

I haven't seen this being a wide spread issue. Might want to get with Samsung. Or perhaps Verizon. I assume you are past the 14 day trial period.

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[wrich2005]

I came to Android from IOS. On that platform, there were no SD cards - everything was stored in the internal RAM - and I had no problems like the JPEG or folder corruption that I've also experienced on my Note 3 - and I've only had it for 2 weeks!.

On IOS, I had 32gb of RAM and was able to store ALL images, music, apps, etc in that 32gb without a problem. I just checked the current INTERNAL storage on my Note 3, and see that I have 26gb of internal RAM available. I also see that I have 6.5gb USED on my SD card.

I'm wondering, if there's a reason why I wouldn't want to store EVERYTHING in internal memory and forget about using an SD card.

bert

RAM is random access memory aka short term memory where it keeps bits of data for multitasking etc. Flash memory is what you're saving to. Seems like your card is bad. Try formatting it first and if that doesn't work I'd swap it out.

I agree you'll never have these problems on an idevice but you'll never have a micro sd slot either

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[Haalcyon]

I've had mSD issues with Sandisk Ultra cards in both my old S4 and old AT&T Note 8 (sold both). I've had no such problems with them in my Note 3, current Note 8.0, or this Note 10.1.

from a '14 Note 10.1

 

[TheMacs]

Bert - I've never seen your situation. There are others here who have a lot more Anrdroid experience than I though.

I'd probably suggest a hard reset, and getting the update (build MJ7) first. Maybe this works. If not, painful as it may be, I'd take the Note to Vz, and explain this has happened to 2 separate cards from different manufacturers. (They will want to blame the card, doubtful since it's happened to twice.) Then I'd probably push for a replacement Note.

Good luck. Sorry couldn't be of better help.

 

[bertsirkin]

Well, it's been almost 2 weeks without a problem. I had removed a "backup" app that I thought might be causing the problem, as it was writting a lot to the SD card. It seemed to help for a while, but the corruption is back again.

I have a very large game app (The Room) that installs itself on the SD card, and I'm assuming it writes to the SD card to save data. I just went to run it, and I got the "App not installed" message. I looked at the SD card and there's another corrupt folder (the name starts with the "mu" character) that has about 100 files in where all of the names are made up of extended ASCII chars, and the Lost.dir folder has four files in it.

I'm guessing that whatever is causing this, occurs when writes occur to the SD card. Somehow, the OS doesn't know how to write to the file system on the SD card without corrupting it.

I'll try going to Verizon to see what they'll do/recommend.

bert

 

[Simon_y7]

How, exactly, does one format a new card inside the phone?

 

[karsdroid]

How, exactly, does one format a new card inside the phone?

settings -- storage----under sd card is an option to format sd card