froyo or gingerbreead?

[watskyhotsky]

Code typically gets more bloated, not less.
Newer does not equal better, ask Windows Xp users who switched to Vista or those complaining about the new Ubuntu interface, which is supposedly faster and "better". Companies release new versions for various reasons, not all of them are good. I'm not saying ICS is junk, but it's also not what you make it seem.

2.2 is still the dominant OS, by a rather large margin. Phones are still shipping with it, in fact it is still the most shipped OS. You say 2.3 is also outdated, name a few phones with anything newer. I think there is one.


Fresh oil does not make an engine run better, if it does, you probably should have changed it a while ago.

Higher octane making a car run better is simply a fallacy, higher octane actually burns slower and when used in a car meant for low octane (which burns faster) is actually going to give you worse mileage. Your engine is tuned for a specific octane. In fact, putting race fuel (115 octane) in a car meant for 87 octane, can actually melt your catalytic converter.

higher quality doesnt mean higher octane. I didnt say octane. and your right about the oil. I was using that as a reference to try to explain my method of thinking, it was to get the idea across, not to nitpick the details.

not everything is better becuase its newer. Vista is bloated. thats true. but 2.3 is a genuinely better operating system than froyo, if only by a bit.

i always thought the android phone manufacturers develop a phone and test the rom for months during development for stability before releasing, which is why phones ship with older OS's a lot of phones shipped with 2.2 during the release of 2.3 becuase manufacturers didnt have the time to build a stable 2.3 and test it as extensively as they do. I liken 2.2 to Windows XP. around enough for everyone to get familar, then the rug gets pulled from underneath and we get Vista (which i liken to androids Honeycomb) and Windows 7 (ICS, with the source released very recently)


newer doesnt always equal better. but most of the time it means progress, which is better than stagnation. besides, people dont know what they want until its given to them. we are prone to falling into familarity. people stick to and love old OS's becuase they've been around long enough. I dont think theres anything wrong with that, but you have to embrace change, not complain about it. becuase its going to happen regardless

 

[JerryScript]

The greatest thing overlooked in all these posts is the fact you have a choice!

If you like Froyo, stick with it, there is no reason for you to update if you don't want to.

If you like CM-Gingerbread, stick with it, there is no reason for you to revert to Froyo if you don't want to.

Try them both, see which you like, then stick with it, and who cares what anyone else thinks!

 

[Whyzor]

I guess all this time progress isn't worth the effort. We should all just be running DOS programs, because they are really fast and efficient. Technological progress for the most part improves things, occasionally there are hiccups (Windows XP -> Vista), comparing that to Google's Android OS is like comparing apples to lizards.

On my older Android phone, I stuck with Froyo because CM7 GB was buggy and really did drain the battery more. But on the OV, the IHO CM7 is just as good, if not better than Froyo. And yes some people want the latest & flashiest for the heck of it, but I also want stability and battery life, and I get it with GB.

This reminds me of psychology studies I've read, some people are just wired to be more open to change and new things, others like to stick with the old and familiar, it comes down to personal tastes, and then we make all sorts of rationalizations to justify our own decisions. Just some food for thought.

 

[watskyhotsky]

This reminds me of psychology studies I've read, some people are just wired to be more open to change and new things, others like to stick with the old and familiar, it comes down to personal tastes, and then we make all sorts of rationalizations to justify our own decisions. Just some food for thought.

yup yup been there. exactly what I see in practice when I read through a thread like this haha

 

[LeslieAnn]

higher quality doesnt mean higher octane. I didnt say octane.
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I liken 2.2 to Windows XP. around enough for everyone to get familar, then the rug gets pulled from underneath and we get Vista (which i liken to androids Honeycomb) and Windows 7 (ICS, with the source released very recently)

Sorry, but most equate "premium" to being better gas.

Most gas comes from very few sources, do you really think Joes corner gas station has his own refinery? Most gas is quite high in quality these days and comes from one of a few refineries. It has to be for newer cars. Old Models T's would run with almost anything you put in the tank, todays cars, not so much.

You barely got used to XP?
It's 10 years old! MS tries to keep a 2 year release cycle, people got spoiled with XP. 10 years in computing equates to a 50 year old car. Also, Win7 is hardly ICS, it's been out for almost 2 years, is quite stable and found on everything. ICS is found, um, well, uhhhh... What? One phone?

I guess all this time progress isn't worth the effort. We should all just be running DOS programs, because they are really fast and efficient. Technological progress for the most part improves things, occasionally there are hiccups (Windows XP -> Vista), comparing that to Google's Android OS is like comparing apples to lizards.
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This reminds me of psychology studies I've read, some people are just wired to be more open to change and new things, others like to stick with the old and familiar, it comes down to personal tastes, and then we make all sorts of rationalizations to justify our own decisions. Just some food for thought.

Yes, technology does improve, but software doesn't necessarily follow the same pattern. History is full of computing programs that sank under their own weight. As I said, code bloats. They will add features, new security, more hooks, it all adds up. Can code shrink, yes, but only by minimal amounts and only if they don't keep adding to it, which they all inevitably do. At some point, Android will no longer fit or be capable of running on an OV. And why shouldn't it. Storage space and computing power doubles every two years. No reason not to take advantage of it.

I'm not saying Froyo is better, or ICS is better, but there should at least be something to quantify "better" other than saying "it's new" or that it will be better because it's Android or Google.

Don't put Google and ICS on a pedestal, ICS could be better, but so far, we simply don't know yet.

 

[b.roid]

i just started using IHO coming from stock and cant believe how much battery it drains? the stock i was able to use it all day and charge at night. now i can't even get half way through the day without needing a charge? i think i need to change back to froyo and see if that helps. i like newer features, but battery life is my #1 priority!

 

[Spiral_ouT#AC]

i just started using IHO coming from stock and cant believe how much battery it drains? the stock i was able to use it all day and charge at night. now i can't even get half way through the day without needing a charge? i think i need to change back to froyo and see if that helps. i like newer features, but battery life is my #1 priority!

I had a polar opposite experience with battery drain on IHO vs stock. My battery barely lasted 8 hours on the stock ROM and now lasts 40-48 hours on BACKside with the same usage.

You said you just started using IHO. I'd reset your battery stats and give it a day or two to settle in before completely writing off IHO. Usually battery life isn't great right after flashing any ROM.

 

[jdcnosse]

Just for fun, I had my phone on airplane mode and turned everything else off/down. So basically my phone was a large clock. In this "mode" my phone has so far been on for 14 hours, and has only decreased by 3 percent. So theoretically, as just a clock...my phone has enough juice for 3 weeks.

 

[b.roid]

I had a polar opposite experience with battery drain on IHO vs stock. My battery barely lasted 8 hours on the stock ROM and now lasts 40-48 hours on BACKside with the same usage.

You said you just started using IHO. I'd reset your battery stats and give it a day or two to settle in before completely writing off IHO. Usually battery life isn't great right after flashing any ROM.

i didnt know there was a break in time after you flash. its been about 3 days now. how do i reset battery stats? that sounds like a very high difference in hours your getting now? seems kinda hard to believe.

 

[Spiral_ouT#AC]

i didnt know there was a break in time after you flash. its been about 3 days now. how do i reset battery stats? that sounds like a very high difference in hours your getting now? seems kinda hard to believe.

Three days should be more than enough time. You can reset battery stats in recovery or download the free app Battery Calibration from the market. Be sure to charge to 100% before resetting stats.

If its too hard to believe, you can look in the thread "IHO Battery Life.". I've got two screenshots of my battery life in there.

Sent from my InferiorHumanOrgan OV CM7.1 using Tapatalk.

 

[riggerman]

Here's a screen shot for you. As you can see I still had 38% left after 28 hours of moderate use. If you do the math, you'll see that equates to 42-44 hours before having to recharge. My usage includes web surfing both on wifi and 3g, playing some games, a couple of quick calls, and some texting. Total time awake with screen on was about 5 1/2 hours. This is on an older version of MiRaGe ( 10102011).