Galaxy S9 and Project Treble

[Graphixx30]

Does everyone think we will get timely software updates from carriers for the Galaxy S9 since it will support Project Treble? Will updates even come from the carriers now or directly from Samsung?

 

[Jaycemiskel]

Does everyone think we will get timely software updates from carriers for the Galaxy S9 since it will support Project Treble? Will updates even come from the carriers now or directly from Samsung?

Doubt they'll be timely, but I think they might be a little faster. Will still need to go through the carriers I'm sure.

 

[SpookDroid]

Project Treble updates should come directly and not through carriers since they are mostly dealing with device security. So at least you should, IN THEORY, see faster security patches and not be months behind on a new phone.

 

[Jaycemiskel]

Project Treble updates should come directly and not through carriers since they are mostly dealing with device security. So at least you should, IN THEORY, see faster security patches and not be months behind on a new phone.

Carriers aren't going to let manufacturers send updates through without letting them test them. All project treble does it make it where the drivers and such are separate. I'm sure you'll still see them going through carriers on carrier branded phones.

 

[Gayle Lynn]

Getting to Project Treble was and may still be a large undertaking that should pay off. Outside of imorovements to support S9 and yes even Oreo, their role and the work qualifying changes for their Network should lessen, a lot.

 

[ThrottleJohnny]

Carriers aren't going to let manufacturers send updates through without letting them test them. All project treble does it make it where the drivers and such are separate. I'm sure you'll still see them going through carriers on carrier branded phones.

Really? Apple has done it for years

 

[chanchan05]

Really? Apple has done it for years

Apples and Oranges. Carriers aren't allowed to modify iOS. On Android they can create modifications apart from that made by the manufacturer.

 

[Jaycemiskel]

Really? Apple has done it for years

Come on man. That's Apple. They aren't gonna start letting Android manufacturers do it. Let's be real now.

 

[ThrottleJohnny]

Come on man. That's Apple. They aren't gonna start letting Android manufacturers do it. Let's be real now.

Now you say it correctly. That’s not what you said first time around. Apple proves it’s possible.

No one is ever going to let you do anything. If Google wants to solve this problem their going to have to find ways around it. Project Treble is a start, but until Android users demand more, they’re not going to get it

 

[Jaycemiskel]

Now you say it correctly. That’s not what you said first time around. Apple proves it’s possible.

No one is ever going to let you do anything. If Google wants to solve this problem their going to have to find ways around it. Project Treble is a start, but until Android users demand more, they’re not going to get it

Figured it was a given since this is not an Apple forum. Everybody knew what I was talking about. You're just nitpicking lol. I couldn't care less what Apple gets to do. I'm talking about for phones with project treble, obviously.

 

[ThrottleJohnny]

Figured it was a given since this is not an Apple forum. Everybody knew what I was talking about. You're just nitpicking lol. I couldn't care less what Apple gets to do. I'm talking about for phones with project treble, obviously.

Nope, not a given when some of us switch back and forth between OEMs. You may not care, but some of us do.

That’s all. Back to the subject at hand

 

[Jaycemiskel]

Nope, not a given when some of us switch back and forth between OEMs. You may not care, but some of us do.

That’s all. Back to the subject at hand

* apple has been able to do that from the beginning. It would be nice if Android oems could but I don't see them ever getting that type of power. No one other than Samsung might be able to pull it off but I don't see them going for it either. Our best shot is that unlocked versions eventually take over.

 

[D13H4RD2L1V3]

Treble decouples the vendor stuff like drivers and such from the OS partition and puts them in a separate partition.

This means that device OEMs don't need to wait for updated drivers to build a new version of the software, so in theory, it should be faster.

In theory

 

[chanchan05]

Treble decouples the vendor stuff like drivers and such from the OS partition and puts them in a separate partition.

This means that device OEMs don't need to wait for updated drivers to build a new version of the software, so in theory, it should be faster.

In theory

I expect Samsung to be 4mos late instead of 6mos after Treble. Lol.

 

[Jaycemiskel]

I expect Samsung to be 4mos late instead of 6mos after Treble. Lol.

Lol I'm right there with you on that. At least there might be SOME improvement though

 

[Itsa_Me_Mario]

No. Nothing will change with Treble, at this point, except it'll be cheaper for Samsung to do updates.

 

[neil74]

I guess 8.1 will be the first test?

 

[bhatech]

Really? Apple has done it for years

Samsung is not Apple otherwise they wouldn't be bending over back to the useless carriers in letting them modify the firmware however the carriers wish.

For example, here are certain apps that you cannot use from Samsung if you use the Verizon variant of the S8/S9. Full disclosure I'm not on Verizon so not sure if all of them are still valid but just an example I found from Reddit.

1. Samsung Cloud (Verizon blocks it completely and wants you to pay to use their Verizon Cloud app)

2. Caller ID (Again, Verizon blocks it completely and wants you to pay to use their Caller ID app)

3. Device Maintenance (Again, Verizon blocks it completely and wants you to pay to use their Total Mobile Protection app)

4. Samsung Visual Voicemail (Again, Verizon blocks it completely and wants you to use - and potentially pay for - their Visual Voicemail app)

5. Samsung's Find My Mobile (I think this is part of Verizon's Total Mobile Protection, which as I stated above, Verizon wants you to pay for)

One day I hope Samsung tells the carriers to pound sand and just have one unified firmware across all their devices. But not going to happen I guess. One may argue, good I don't use Samsung cloud and I don't want that crap. That's not the point here, as a company Samsung should push for an unified software experience across all it's device, it's their device so take charge of it and give users the option if they want to use or not. Currently it's all over the place.

PS: I'm not picking on Verizon here, just an example. I hate all carriers equally, they are all horrible