Pretty ironic calling someone a baby when your using very poor spelling and grammar.
Gaming on such a High Res Screen...
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Pretty ironic calling someone a baby when your using very poor spelling and grammar.
As stated issue taken care of. We all need to move on with the thread topic.
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I just wanted the best of the best that was all. I do think though we will have to wait and see what happens with way ICS, the screen and the GPU work together. It might be great it might not but we shall see.
I'm concerned about gpu performance as well, since there will be more pixels to push. The benchmark comparison earlier in this thread was bad enough, but even worse when other competing phones were added:
GLBenchmark - Phone details comparsion
GLBenchmark - Phone details comparsion
I looked at the benchmarks on the site and found some very interesting (and actually not too surprising) information. In looking at the device information on the device, it lists the OS build version, etc. Notice though that for the Galaxy Nexus device, much of the information includes "userdebug" in the name. For comparison, look at the information listed for the GS2. They all include "release" and not "userdebug". That would indicate to me that the software used for the benchmark was Debug software, not Release software. This is not too surprising since the device has yet to be released and any benchmarking may in fact be using debug software.
As a developer of OpenGL graphic displays myself, I can tell you that debug software will give much, much slower benchmarks than release software due to all of the "hooks" and debug information that is embedded into debug builds. If that's the case with the benchmarks for the Galaxy Nexus that are listed on the website, then I would expect the official, release version to perform much, much better.
I think people are still worrying too much about benchmark numbers without knowing enough information about the tests that were ran. It's been pointed out that this might have been done using an older version of the software. Plus benchmarks are just meant to push things to the limit and in no way resemble what is happening or will happen during the expected life of the phone.
Honestly, most phones just don't last that long, it's the nature of the beast these days. Technology is constantly changing and even if we did get the bleeding edge tech that some wanted, the fact is in too short of a time I'm sure there would be other things announced that would make us complain about even those type of specs. Plus it isn't like the hardware isn't good anyways, it's just a lot people had unrealistic expectations.
Google and Samsung probably worked together for a while and made decisions based on getting the software and hardware to work extremely well together and sometimes that means using older technology that is proven to be reliable. It's a Nexus phone, so I think we should have faith that Google wouldn't push out something in that line that wouldn't make us happy. I'm still rather surprised about some of the venom expressed about the specs considering I don't remember any of the previous Nexus phones having the best of the best hardware wise. They all had good specs, but there was always other phones that had been released or were about to be released that had better hardware. Nexus just ended up being the great choice because of Vanilla Android and getting quick updates, plus they always seemed to be a smooth experience. That is what we are getting with the Galaxy Nexus, nothing has changed.
I stick with what I said earlier, people looking to do some serious mobile gaming are probably going to do that on a tablet or the new Sony Vita. It's a very small niche that want to play "serious" games on their phones, even with the improved displays starting to make their ways on them.
Really by the time we start seeing programs that are pushing the GN to the edge, there will probably be a lot of new phones out with quad cores and all sorts of hardware improvements and most of us would be considering selling and buying a new phone anyways.
Honestly, most phones just don't last that long, it's the nature of the beast these days. Technology is constantly changing and even if we did get the bleeding edge tech that some wanted, the fact is in too short of a time I'm sure there would be other things announced that would make us complain about even those type of specs. Plus it isn't like the hardware isn't good anyways, it's just a lot people had unrealistic expectations.
Google and Samsung probably worked together for a while and made decisions based on getting the software and hardware to work extremely well together and sometimes that means using older technology that is proven to be reliable. It's a Nexus phone, so I think we should have faith that Google wouldn't push out something in that line that wouldn't make us happy. I'm still rather surprised about some of the venom expressed about the specs considering I don't remember any of the previous Nexus phones having the best of the best hardware wise. They all had good specs, but there was always other phones that had been released or were about to be released that had better hardware. Nexus just ended up being the great choice because of Vanilla Android and getting quick updates, plus they always seemed to be a smooth experience. That is what we are getting with the Galaxy Nexus, nothing has changed.
I stick with what I said earlier, people looking to do some serious mobile gaming are probably going to do that on a tablet or the new Sony Vita. It's a very small niche that want to play "serious" games on their phones, even with the improved displays starting to make their ways on them.
Really by the time we start seeing programs that are pushing the GN to the edge, there will probably be a lot of new phones out with quad cores and all sorts of hardware improvements and most of us would be considering selling and buying a new phone anyways.
Dang destroyed by every other phone on that list... what a disappointment this phone is.
Quite a bit actually, its almost a linear increase in performance. So doubling clock speed will nearly double performance.
It's the same clock speed as the Bionc...and it doesn't perform very well with it's qHD res.
I'm taking those benchmarks with a grain of salt. My Xoom using the tegra 2 feels fast plays games great, has a massive screen aka I'm very happy with its processing and graphic power. On that benchmark its worse then the Galaxy Nexus. So for all I'm concerned those benchmarks are useless.
No, the Bionic uses the OMAP 4430 while the Nexus is an OMAP 4460. It's clocked around 25% faster.
Texas Instruments OMAP - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Just to be fair though, the 720p display has about 77% more pixels than a qHD one so that 25% increase only takes you so far.
1Ghz but the A5 in the iPhone 4s is 800mhz tbh this phone blows everyphone out there out of the park!
Another thing to consider, just about all the Android tabs run 1280x800 with a Tegra 2...and because of politics they get all the best games. The 4460 is a good bit faster than the tegra 2, and is having to push slightly less res here.
I just wanted to make a quick mention about the GPU and how people are a bit taken back with it and why it's still being used in this "next-gen" NEXUS.
What if... the GPU inside is no longer bottle-necked? Anyone who knows about PC gaming, high resolutions and GPUs will know that often times the GPU itself is actually quite fast and more than capable, however it's the other hardware in the system that slows down that GPU, not to mention at certain resolutions a GPU will also be slowed.
What if this GPU, given it's older tech, can actually perform quite well with ICS coupled with the OMAP cpu? Also the RAM helps too. What if at the resolution of 1280x720, this GPU can actually open up.
I have an SLI PC Gaming rig that I use right now. If my processor was weak and not overclocked to a modest 4.5ghz, then I honestly think my SLI GPU setup will be quite bottle-necked. If it weren't for the better hardware in my system, my SLI setup would not be performing as well. Case in point, my SLI GPUs are actually GTX 285 graphic cards. It's old tech by today's standards. I played the BF3 beta on High graphic settings with little to no lag. It was a joy to play. They recommend a modern generation GPU to play on high settings with BF3, like an Nvidia 560 or 580 GPU, which I don't have. Also BF3 was probably optimized well, similar to how ICS may be.
So what I'm saying is, I have old GPU technology in my computer, the Nexus Galaxy has comparable old technology as its GPU, I think the GPU will be just fine in this Nexus device.
I think you have to see the system as a whole and not just individual parts. It's a system of hardware working in harmony with each other and the OS, in this case ICS. These cell phones are just like computers and I think they can be viewed in similar light.
Know what I'm saying? Make sense?
What if... the GPU inside is no longer bottle-necked? Anyone who knows about PC gaming, high resolutions and GPUs will know that often times the GPU itself is actually quite fast and more than capable, however it's the other hardware in the system that slows down that GPU, not to mention at certain resolutions a GPU will also be slowed.
What if this GPU, given it's older tech, can actually perform quite well with ICS coupled with the OMAP cpu? Also the RAM helps too. What if at the resolution of 1280x720, this GPU can actually open up.
I have an SLI PC Gaming rig that I use right now. If my processor was weak and not overclocked to a modest 4.5ghz, then I honestly think my SLI GPU setup will be quite bottle-necked. If it weren't for the better hardware in my system, my SLI setup would not be performing as well. Case in point, my SLI GPUs are actually GTX 285 graphic cards. It's old tech by today's standards. I played the BF3 beta on High graphic settings with little to no lag. It was a joy to play. They recommend a modern generation GPU to play on high settings with BF3, like an Nvidia 560 or 580 GPU, which I don't have. Also BF3 was probably optimized well, similar to how ICS may be.
So what I'm saying is, I have old GPU technology in my computer, the Nexus Galaxy has comparable old technology as its GPU, I think the GPU will be just fine in this Nexus device.
I think you have to see the system as a whole and not just individual parts. It's a system of hardware working in harmony with each other and the OS, in this case ICS. These cell phones are just like computers and I think they can be viewed in similar light.
Know what I'm saying? Make sense?
Ow my bad but I know the A5 GPU so far is the best out there
its dual core GPU (actual dual core GPU not cpu altho cpu is dual core too)
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