gaps still present in current batches

[Jennifer Stough]

Yes its a public forum and we all should have freedom of speech but when you don't own a particular device and you aren't asking opinions, or for help and only reason is to bash the one for build quality

Wrong. This is a privately owned forum, and while we like to promote discussion and allow as much freedom as speech as possible, we are all subject to the terms and conditions, and the rules set in place for forum use. Many of which have been broken in this thread, none of which by the OP. Also, I see no "bashing" of the device in this thread. And before it is even questioned, I do not own the s4.

 

[asanatheist]

Wrong. This is a privately owned forum, and while we like to promote discussion and allow as much freedom as speech as possible, we are all subject to the terms and conditions, and the rules set in place for forum use. Many of which have been broken in this thread, none of which by the OP. Also, I see no "bashing" of the device in this thread. And before it is even questioned, I do not own the s4.

Not to challenge your judgement but I do have to say these things:
I think the OP has misled quite a bit using words like "defects", "damaged", "not as advertised" as well as the pretty obscene title "gaps my ****".
If those aren't matches to light a fire, I honestly don't know what is. Many people here have not acted maturely, which is a pity.

Either way I am retiring from this thread as mentioned already pointless when apart from only one point, all of the OP's arguments are invalid, misleading or not truthful.
All he really had to say is: I don't want gaps in my phone, which is his right as a consumer and would have sufficed instead of blaming HTC of having defects, flaws, damaged phone, and accusing them of false advertising. Instead he relied on misleading statements, and accusations of false advertising.
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[Jennifer Stough]

Not to challenge your judgement but I do have to say these things:
I think the OP has misled quite a bit using words like "defects", "damaged", "not as advertised" as well as the pretty obscene title "gaps my ****".
If those aren't matches to light a fire, I honestly don't know what is. Many people here have not acted maturely, which is a pity.

Either way I am retiring from this thread as mentioned already pointless when apart from only one point, all of the OP's arguments are invalid, misleading or not truthful.
All he really had to say is: I don't want gaps in my phone, which is his right as a consumer and would have sufficed instead of blaming HTC of having defects, flaws, damaged phone, and accusing them of false advertising. Instead he relied on misleading statements, and accusations of false advertising.
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Just to make sure that I wasn't mistaken, I reread through the whole thread, and my opinion stands more so than before. The OP never once used the word "damaged" in retrospect to the defect that was on the device. We aren't calling a rose by any other name, it IS a defect. As for the "as advertised," MANY people were mislead with the advertising on the "unibody" design and "no gap" body. Many people aren't or weren't aware of the plastic injections or the gaps that could be present. As Kevin mentioned, the speaker grills aren't apart of that zero gap and unibody design, which was quite a surprise for many people. I wouldnt be surprised if there was an err in translation about what was advertised and what was seen. He never once blamed HTC for having a damaged phone. The closest he came to saying anything remotely similar is that he had presumed that this issue would have been worked out by now. Which is something I also wholly agree with.

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[Gator352]

Funny, the OP hasn't flamed anyone, nor has he participated in this "war" you speak of. I can pinpoint each and every person who was provoking this and let me give you a hint, it's the exact ones who are trying to justify their actions, not the OP. The OP has done nothing but respond civilly and try to deter this "flaming" that you claim he should have "expected" when he posted this thread. Let me tell you now, no user should ever have to expect to be flamed for posting a genuine issue and experience, regardless of what phone he is currently using. While some of you seem to feel like it is a common practice or protocol, android central forums DOES NOT promote the treating of it's members in this manner. Not once did he say anything negative about the phone (internals, sense, build materials) nor did he boast a competing phone. He commented on a defect that he found on the device he wanted to buy, and every phone in the line up. Fortunately, it isn't at public discretion as to of what threads are considered trolling or not, and regardless of how you perceive a thread, it is no excuse to treat a fellow member how many of you have, here. I am not going to close this thread, however, I will be keeping a close eye on many of the posts, now. Any further flaming, trolling, or disrespect by any party will be handled accordingly. If you have an issue with something a user posts, report the post so the mod team can evaluate it, or move on. Attacking/insulting someone, as well as calling someone a troll, is not conducive to the discussion, and is grounds for infraction.



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Not to offend or to be rude in any way, shape, or form, but I never once said he was flaming. I said " I dislike people who start flame/thread wars." There is a big difference as I never accused him of "flaming". I also haven't insulted him to the terms of name calling...never even called him a troll. And yes! He should have expected this kind of reaction from most. Not because he was upset at the fact of a "known defect", but because he decided to go with a different phone THEN post in here about his experience as to why he didn't buy it. Like YOU said, it's a "known defect", and he should have read up on it before his quality time was taken up! Now, lets be grand here...hTc has responded about the "gap" issue and claims it's not widespread nor do they call it a "defect" as they have a certain tolerance level as to how the phone is actually built. A simple google search by the OP of this issue and this thread would have never started. You're right though, He has reacted civilly and that is commendable. But in no way, do I need to justify my actions as my One is perfect the way it is. I also have a right "in accordance with the terms of AC" to react to a thread as much as he has a right "in accordance with the terms of AC" to post a thread. AS long as it stays civil like you said, there should be no problem, but like a few have said, I'm out.

 

[BobR1908]

Not to offend or to be rude in any way, shape, or form, but I never once said he was flaming. I said " I dislike people who start flame/thread wars." There is a big difference as I never accused him of "flaming". I also haven't insulted him to the terms of name calling...never even called him a troll. And yes! He should have expected this kind of reaction from most. Not because he was upset at the fact of a "known defect", but because he decided to go with a different phone THEN post in here about his experience as to why he didn't buy it. Like YOU said, it's a "known defect", and he should have read up on it before his quality time was taken up! Now, lets be grand here...hTc has responded about the "gap" issue and claims it's not widespread nor do they call it a "defect" as they have a certain tolerance level as to how the phone is actually built. A simple google search by the OP of this issue and this thread would have never started. You're right though, He has reacted civilly and that is commendable. But in no way, do I need to justify my actions as my One is perfect the way it is. I also have a right "in accordance with the terms of AC" to react to a thread as much as he has a right "in accordance with the terms of AC" to post a thread. AS long as it stays civil like you said, there should be no problem, but like a few have said, I'm out.

With respect, I never opted to go with another phone. As I stated multiple times I have several phones because I am a lover of technology.

I went in hopes of purchasing a One and did not do so because I felt like I should not have to settle when spending $700 CAD. If I had found a phone without gap issues I would have bought it and in fact one of my post states I still would be open to buying a One if I come across one without the gaps.

I often switch between my Note 2, Nexus 4, S4 and Lumia 920. Why? Because I enjoy technology. I cannot help but feel like the majority of these comments come from One owners who are unnecessarily jumping at me because I did not invest and do not own the phone they do. Yet.

It really is unfortunate and a shame that some have to resort to attacking when attacking is far from justified nor necessary.

I never once bashed the phone nor have I recommended buying another phone in place of a One.

I know the One is a great phone and just because I did not opt to spend my $700 CAD on it does not mean I should be accused of trolling, bashing and recommending buyers do not purchase.

Thank you.

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[Jennifer Stough]

Not to offend or to be rude in any way, shape, or form, but I never once said he was flaming. I said " I dislike people who start flame/thread wars." There is a big difference as I never accused him of "flaming". I also haven't insulted him to the terms of name calling...never even called him a troll. And yes! He should have expected this kind of reaction from most. Not because he was upset at the fact of a "known defect", but because he decided to go with a different phone THEN post in here about his experience as to why he didn't buy it. Like YOU said, it's a "known defect", and he should have read up on it before his quality time was taken up! Now, lets be grand here...hTc has responded about the "gap" issue and claims it's not widespread nor do they call it a "defect" as they have a certain tolerance level as to how the phone is actually built. A simple google search by the OP of this issue and this thread would have never started. You're right though, He has reacted civilly and that is commendable. But in no way, do I need to justify my actions as my One is perfect the way it is. I also have a right "in accordance with the terms of AC" to react to a thread as much as he has a right "in accordance with the terms of AC" to post a thread. AS long as it stays civil like you said, there should be no problem, but like a few have said, I'm out.

I'd like you to note that he had the s4 PRIOR to posting this thread. He did not attempt to buy the one and choose the s4. Your wording of "creating flame/thread wars" made it seem like you were stating that he was flaming, whether the phone or a member. Neither of which he has done. As for saying that he should have searched for it before posting this thread, while that ideal is great in a perfect world, it doesn't happen. Of course HTC says it isn't a wide spread issue. The same as Samsung who states there was no issue with their radios, the same as Google nexus who says there is no issue with the glass on the back of the phone, and the same as Verizon who claimed the SIM issue was unheard of on the droid dna. So yes, lets be grand. My post, although in response to one of yours, was meant for everyone.

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[BobR1908]

I had previously made the decision to stop commenting on this thread but in life out of principal we need to defend and standup for ourselves and I will always do that. As should you.

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[Gator352]

With respect, I never opted to go with another phone. As I stated multiple times I have several phones because I am a lover of technology.

I went in hopes of purchasing a One and did not do so because I felt like I should not have to settle when spending $700 CAD. If I had found a phone without gap issues I would have bought it and in fact one of my post states I still would be open to buying a One if I come across one without the gaps.

I often switch between my Note 2, Nexus 4, S4 and Lumia 920. Why? Because I enjoy technology. I cannot help but feel like the majority of these comments come from One owners who are unnecessarily jumping at me because I did not invest and do not own the phone they do. Yet.

It really is unfortunate and a shame that some have to resort to attacking when attacking is far from justified nor necessary.

I never once bashed the phone nor have I recommended buying another phone in place of a One.

I know the One is a great phone and just because I did not opt to spend my $700 CAD on it does not mean I should be accused of trolling, bashing and recommending buyers do not purchase.

Thank you.

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Fair enough! In your OP, you mentioned that you spent time with the S4, note 2, etc. Spending time with something doesn't always mean owning. Now if you mentioned it later on, I missed it. I also construded that you bought a different phone instead of the one. That would be my fault as you never stated that. Also to note, I won't spend 700 bucks on something that isn't to my liking either!

Now I wanna get this straight...I'm not defending you, I'm just pointing out my mistakes that I made that was wrong...

 

[Gator352]

I'd like you to note that he had the s4 PRIOR to posting this thread. He did not attempt to buy the one and choose the s4. Your wording of "creating flame/thread wars" made it seem like you were stating that he was flaming, whether the phone or a member. Neither of which he has done. As for saying that he should have searched for it before posting this thread, while that ideal is great in a perfect world, it doesn't happen. Of course HTC says it isn't a wide spread issue. The same as Samsung who states there was no issue with their radios, the same as Google nexus who says there is no issue with the glass on the back of the phone, and the same as Verizon who claimed the SIM issue was unheard of on the droid dna. So yes, lets be grand. My post, although in response to one of yours, was meant for everyone.

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Fair enough also. But all the issues you mentioned, as one member stated here, "there's no perfect phone."

 

[shoii]

And another s4 user that came to the op defense.
Listen people have explained over and over why this thread bothered some of us. Yes its a public forum and we all should have freedom of speech but when you don't own a particular device and you aren't asking opinions, or for help and only reason is to bash the one for build quality then those of us that have perfect ones will call you out on it. Where are the pics?
Name calling "fanboys" isn't called for. My wife owns a s4. It's a fine device in its own. This has nothing to do with being a fan boy.
If there are serious questions about build quality then we all want to try to listen and help. My phone has a small gap at the top of it also but it's very small. Please don't come here just trying to stir up the fire by thrashing build quality.

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Thank you for proving my point. See how you brought up an S4 when it had nothing to do with what I said. No way you can have a civil discussion.

 

[Jennifer Stough]

Fair enough also. But all the issues you mentioned, as one member stated here, "there's no perfect phone."

No, there is no perfect phone. But that does not mean you should have to settle for a device that is factory defected. I would rather have a device that is software defective and can be corrected with a patch or update, than have a device that is physically defective and have to settle for the entirety of ownership.

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[Gator352]

No, there is no perfect phone. But that does not mean you should have to settle for a device that is factory defected. I would rather have a device that is software defective and can be corrected with a patch or update, than have a device that is physically defective and have to settle for the entirety of ownership.

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No doubt!! I won't spend that kinda mullah either on a phone that has cosmetic issues. Most I can deal with if it's on subsidy but buying it outright??? No way.

 

[Gator352]

Just because he pointed out a flaw thread should be locked? I see no wrong with someone posting their expierence and trying to help anyone buying such a high-end phone. Don't mind the gap? Great, keep having the best expierence with your phone and move along. If you didn't mind the gap you wouldn't be starting arguments. Honestly it is impossible to have a civil discussion in these forums. You think you would get better answers from HTC users that LOVE to point out other companies "fanboys". This shows you are no different.

No one said anything about "fanboys" till you brought it up. What Topgonzo brought up was civil and not impossible to discuss. Most of us WANT a civil discussion and most want to help if you have a problem.

 

[shoii]

No one said anything about "fanboys" till you brought it up. What Topgonzo brought up was civil and not impossible to dicuss.

I should rephrase, it is very possible to discuss but it will be completely pointless.

 

[jonathan2677]

I like the extra p! Thanks for the help tho!

TAPATALKIN FROM MY HTC ONE, ON THE NOW NETWORK!

I thought you meant your phone didn't have Google apps otherwise known as gapps

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[Gator352]

I should rephrase, it is very possible to discuss but it will be completely pointless.

Why? If your point is made and makes complete logical sense, then maybe someone would completely understand.

 

[shoii]

Why? If your point is made and makes complete logical sense, then maybe someone would completely understand.

Because that other person is too subjective or biased. You can make a completely logical point and he will not cooperate in any way. It is the same as arguing sports like Lebron vs Kobe, you will never hear the end of it.

 

[asanatheist]

No, there is no perfect phone. But that does not mean you should have to settle for a device that is factory defected. I would rather have a device that is software defective and can be corrected with a patch or update, than have a device that is physically defective and have to settle for the entirety of ownership.

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What phone do you currently use so I could list defects on that phone, that is factory defects. You have had to accept a phone with factory defects but within factory tolerances.

It's hypocritical to think the gap on the HTC One is a worse off issue than others present in phones, software or hardware related because some software issues can't be fixed for months because of slow update releases.
Anyways that's up to each user to decide, and honestly anyone's choice is their own choice. As I said before, the OP held the matches to light the fire with his statements, accusations and obscene title.

 

[BobR1908]

I agree my title could have been better however I made no accusations and my comments were in direct correlation with what I experienced.

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[BobR1908]

I looked at several HTC One phones, the salesman at Best Buy offered to open multiple and she was just as concerned with the gaps as I was.

Could the title have been better? Yes, I agree it could have been but I was incredibly disappointed at the time fresh home from wanting to buy a One and not being able to due to gap issues.

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