Gesture navigation might be the only option on Pixel 3

[mustang7757]

Double tapping the power button is already the shortcut for the camera. Having some options to customize the navbar gestures would be best.

I agree , just a suggestion

 

[Ca_lvn]

Sothing like this
Oops sorry OnePlus well since it was part of the video

 

[anon(10092459)]

Maybe I'm use to my other phones but at this point it hasn't grown on me , I did like how the slide on bottom of the pill to go through recent app page . I've gone back to the buttons on my pixel it just flows much better the way I like

I'm hip... and I may move back to the button system too before it's all over. I guess we'll have to see if I feel the same a week from now.

 

[anon(10092459)]

@Ca_lvn * Flagged for off topic *

 

[mustang7757]

Sothing like this
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Hahaha exactly.. glad it wasn't me that had to post that

 

[Theot]

From I understand, the swipe up to get the app drawer is 2 swipes by design. From Andrew's interview with EK,

"As for the app drawer essentially being a two-staged release that first shows a row of suggested apps followed by the rest of the apps, EK says it was a very deliberate choice based on user feedback. The numbers showed that 60% of the time when people swiped up from the bottom to display the app drawer, they took one of the suggested apps at the top. Google's algorithms that choose when to place apps there can be applauded, but it just goes to show how few apps people actually use on a regular basis. By making that interaction faster and simpler, it improves the speed of getting to the right app a majority of the time."

So it's designed intentionally to be two separate swipes.

Well that makes more sense in why it behaves how it does. Still don't think it works well. Before one swipe up and I'm in the app drawer. One tap on the square and I have recent apps.

I still think Google should fix it, why not leave the swipe for home and app drawer and like long press for recent apps or hit the power button twice for recent apps and not have them interfere with the app drawer and home

Something, I think they are halfway there. Keep the flick right for quick toggle between apps and swiping it right to scroll through recents. Get rid of the back arrow/button and just go with a flick left. Swipe up for recents, double tap for app drawer or you can flip those and hold for assistant/search. The point is there is only one motion for each, not this two swipes stuff. IDK why but it bugs me a lot and I don't care for it.

 

[mustang7757]

Well that makes more sense in why it behaves how it does. Still don't think it works well. Before one swipe up and I'm in the app drawer. One tap on the square and I have recent apps.Something, I think they are halfway there. Keep the flick right for quick toggle between apps and swiping it right to scroll through recents. Get rid of the back arrow/button and just go with a flick left. Swipe up for recents, double tap for app drawer or you can flip those and hold for assistant/search. The point is there is only one motion for each, not this two swipes stuff. IDK why but it bugs me a lot and I don't care for it.

Totally agree

 

[anon(10092459)]

Well that makes more sense in why it behaves how it does. Still don't think it works well. Before one swipe up and I'm in the app drawer. One tap on the square and I have recent apps.Something, I think they are halfway there. Keep the flick right for quick toggle between apps and swiping it right to scroll through recents. Get rid of the back arrow/button and just go with a flick left. Swipe up for recents, double tap for app drawer or you can flip those and hold for assistant/search. The point is there is only one motion for each, not this two swipes stuff. IDK why but it bugs me a lot and I don't care for it.

I hear ya, Theo .. Pie is a great design language for my use case, but I definitely think there's room for improvement.

It's tough because it seems we go through something like this with every new release, ya know... Things change and, inevitably, whatever gets changed doesn't resonate with some. I mean, I was apprehensive about the change myself.

But the need to progress the system as well... This being a major native change to the system, it's definitely gonna take some getting used to.

 

[anon(10092459)]

I want to put something out there for consideration on this topic...

If you're Google and you want to appeal to people who have an iPhone either 6, 7 or even an 8 and are considering a change to Android, what would you design? All of those phones have a single point of action... the home button. The owners of those phones are coming up on a time to upgrade.

Google has little interest in taking customers from other OEM partners. That doesn't increase global market share for Android. So it makes sense to target to Apple consumers that are on the wave of change.

I think driving more through the pill is trying to bridge that experience and capture some of those people.

 

[Ry]

From what I've seen I think Moto has done it the best on Android.

This is true.

 

[Theot]

I want to put something out there for consideration on this topic...

If you're Google and you want to appeal to people who have an iPhone either 6, 7 or even an 8 and are considering a change to Android, what would you design? All of those phones have a single point of action... the home button. The owners of those phones are coming up on a time to upgrade.

Google has little interest in taking customers from other OEM partners. That doesn't increase global market share for Android. So it makes sense to target to Apple consumers that are on the wave of change.

I think driving more through the pill is trying to bridge that experience and capture some of those people.

Sure, I get why they are doing it. Let me be clear, I'm not against gesture navigation and the pill, I just think there is a big opportunity to do better and eliminate complexity and this confusion and it doesn't seem like they took anything to heart on this through the beta process as it is virtually unchanged.

 

[Mike Dee]

Sure, I get why they are doing it. Let me be clear, I'm not against gesture navigation and the pill, I just think there is a big opportunity to do better and eliminate complexity and this confusion and it doesn't seem like they took anything to heart on this through the beta process as it is virtually unchanged.

I think the issue is only a small part of the population has an issue with the implementation so there is no incentive to change it. I honestly don't have any issue with how it works.

 

[Theot]

I think the issue is only a small part of the population has an issue with the implementation so there is no incentive to change it. I honestly don't have any issue with how it works.

Yeah so now that I've had Pie for a full day and I tried using the gestures for awhile and now that I know the intent is two swipes up for the app drawer I'm ok with it. I still the the back arrow should just go away and you just flick the pill left. Honestly my only gripe now is that the pixel launcher has zero customization and lacks several features I want so I'm back on Nova with the buttons because I can't use gestures with it. Which is a whole other discussion.

 

[anon(10092459)]

Nova with the buttons because I can't use gestures with it. Which is a whole other discussion.

Yeah, I read Ara's piece about this on the blog side. I'm sure they'll come up with some kinda work around... I mean, you'd think at least ..

 

[Almeuit]

Sure, I get why they are doing it. Let me be clear, I'm not against gesture navigation and the pill, I just think there is a big opportunity to do better and eliminate complexity and this confusion and it doesn't seem like they took anything to heart on this through the beta process as it is virtually unchanged.

Hopefully this will help ease your concerns .

Update: Android Central has revised its piece to note that “future Google phones… will ship with gesture navigation turned on by default.” This leaves open the possibility that the three-button navigation system will remain a user accessible option for the moment, though Google is clearly prioritizing gesture nav moving forward.

Source: https://9to5google.com/2018/08/06/google-pixel-3-android-pie-gesture-navigation/