My thought is this why should I have to root a 300 dollar phone to get it to work properly as was stated in a earlier post. I have never rooted a phone as it is not something I feel I should need to do. Trust me I like the nexus alot,but having to root it is not something I want to get involved in.
Give some reasons to get the Nexus over the rezound?
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I have one of the most customized phones there is. I use nfc for paying, customizing sound settings. I have completely redone my home screens. I have a custom color swipe keyboard. Tethering, hdr camera, predictive and speed dialing, the list goes on and on
And all without rooting and this is why I love this phone.
You don't have to do any kind of rooting on any device running the Android. Aa far as rooting goes. It seems like you've drifted from understanding to kind of a skewed interpretation. To understand it's context requires a history lesson on Android, and more importantly, in this thread, the role of Googles Nexus from inception. Nexii are all designed under a guise that other phones aren't. You might wanna shelve the whole rooting aspect for awhile. Just focus on stock oem offerings. If you want, at some point, I'll pm you some links to previous threads and posts to help you understand. Just get yourself accquainted w/ your new phone, first.
You don't have to root the GNex to get it to work properly, but if you don't want to root the GNex to get it to work better, I don't see the point in getting one.
It lets you flash custom ROMs, which means you can load customized operating systems. The customized operating systems have features that stock ICS doesn't, like a soft search key, and can do things like optimize your battery life. It also lets you give apps root access, which increases the functionality of the app. How it increases the functionality depends on the app.
Read up in the rooting forum if you want more specific examples.
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It unleashes it and gives you customization options at the most basic, fundamental levels of the phone. You can now customize your phone at the "root" of its software and OS.
It's hard to describe specific features because each rom is different. I suggest looking for things like Cyanogen Mod, Android Open Kang Project (AOKP), and Codename Android. Google them/look through the forums and check out their features.
Are you sure this is best thing to say for a guy whose not even sure of what phone he should get. It's helpful to know this stuff but I think it's a bit much to take in w/out being familiar w/ the facets of the OS thats gonna get you there.
I knew nothing at all about rooting and ROMing until I started researching here in December of 2011. Up until Christmas of 2011, I had a dumb phone.
I am now the proud owner of an unlocked, rooted GNex and I have been able to back up my data, flashed the 4.0.3 and 4.0.4 radios and flashed back again to the 4.0.2 radios. All by reading here starting in December of 2011.
I knew nothing at all about rooting and ROMing until I started researching here in December of 2011. Up until Christmas of 2011, I had a dumb phone.
I am now the proud owner of an unlocked, rooted GNex and I have been able to back up my data, flashed the 4.0.3 and 4.0.4 radios and flashed back again to the 4.0.2 radios. All by reading here starting in December of 2011.
Yeah, that's a similiar backstory for most people. You won't get confused by rooting if you have a device in front of you so you know what the heck your doing. Studying up without reference something to reference from isn't exactly ideal.
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I don't feel like I gave him so much info as to overly confuse him. Plus, I even said to look around. Rooting should not be done wantonly, but it is--by its very nature--experimentation. You don't learn without (1) reading, and (2) doing. All I was trying to do was give him a broad understanding of what happens when one roots, along with some points of reference. My apologies if that was misunderstood!
I sorta disagree. If you look at the major threads for the roms I listed, there's a LOT of knowledge in them. Heck, there's a lot of knowledge on here. We all have to start somewhere, and giving reference points for the person to go to is a good way to learn.
Heck, that's how I learned, and I think I can handle my phone fine. But different strokes, I suppose.
I did not even think of messing with my device until I had read up first. And much of my reading on rooting/ROMing was before I even got the device because I wasn't going to get it if I wasn't going to root/ROM. So the device wasn't in front of me while I was reading up. It was either in the box still in the VZW store or to the side of me, screen off while I read up.
By no means was I slighting you in any way, my apologies if you felt that way. My point was that unlocking and rooting phones are varied phone to phone. Just unlocking the GN and unlocking on an HTC is not one in the same. That's not even getting into the superuser aspect. I just meant it more in light of the fact that he isn't even completely sure of what he wants. What you said was very sage advice. I just think it's better if he knows what he'll be working with instead of shopping multiple phone sections across multi-forums. Worried about rooting, as frowned upon as it is by carriers. When he's unsure of what he wants. He needs to purchase a device based on it's performance out of the box b/c in all likelihood that's what he'll stick with for quite awhile, if not forever. Which is what the majority of owners do for the life span of their phone.
Another reason I said this is because, if he considers the Rezound, in relation to rooting. He should be wary that the Rezound was not "truly" meant to be unlockable, it was discovered to be applicable. That info. is buried under 2 months of articles, posta, threadsvetc.,. It's easy to skip over that part in a Nexus forum. There are circumstances that one should be aware of b/c it has implications that a pure vanilla owner will not contend with. It's far easier to get derailed unlocking and rooting on the Rezound than the GN. That shouldn't scare anybody away but a number of people jumped in and bricked their phones and lost root access with the last OTA and are now fearful of trying it again b/c of it.
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I absolutely agree. Getting to the flashing stage is complicated by the fact that each and every phone has a different method of getting there. While the end stage is "usually" the same (unless you have a RAZR, or HTC, etc. etc. and can't change things like the kernel without pulling teeth or political favors), getting there is a journey in and of itself.
Speaking of which, CM nightlies have started, so BRB.
Where do you get the custom roms from? Which one do you recommend? Just keep in mind I'm a newb on this stuff.
Well if you have own an HTC phone its pretty much been the same shell since before Android. Take a look at the HD2 running windows. I mean if he has only owned HTC then he never experienced a contour display even if its two years old its still new to the user who has always purchased HTC. HTC is kinda turning into Blackberry with their Sense UI and hardware design. I mean you can even see they are reusing parts from older models into new phones. they better be careful IMO. I started with an OG Droid, then Droid X, Tbolt, Droid Charge and nothing was like the OG Droid. I constantly was looking for something new. In part because of the crappy OS. Only reason why I left the OG Droid was its hardware limitations. Now that I have a Galaxy Nexus I will be set for two years or until the new Nexus comes out because its hardware can handle all the future updates. Only thing Galaxy Nexus needs is a better camera IMO. Its decent but could be better. Other than that the software is what nakes this phone so great. Oh and I stopped rooting after my TBolt. The roms always had a problem or something I didnt like. I coukd never find something stable enough. Dont get me wrong I think modding and developers deserve mad props cause they bring new things to the plate that even Google incorporates into AOSP. I just like stock. It just runs. Maybe the game has changes now but back then it always felt like I was beta testing.
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It needs a better speaker and they need to figure of the loud sqreech and dropped calls. Camera also is outdated. These are some things that are keeping me away.
Well im fortunate to live in area that has a strong 4G signal. I never have drop calls. The screech thing is weird. First time i have heard of that. Also speaker works fine for me. Its loud enough and people hear me fine on my mic. Never encountered those issues.
I'm in a pretty decent 4g area to. Is your phone rooted? I would rather not get involved with the whole root thing if I don't need to.
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Before I ever rooted my phone(s) I made sure I knew how to unroot them as well .That way I knew I could undo everything I have done IF I ever neeeded to .
I just had to read the threads of rooting and unrooting in the stickies a couple of times ,and let everything sink in.I wasnt in a rush to just root ,went at my own pace.
But until I understood both processes I held off on rooting but thats just my nature I guess( what works for me)
I just had to read the threads of rooting and unrooting in the stickies a couple of times ,and let everything sink in.I wasnt in a rush to just root ,went at my own pace.
But until I understood both processes I held off on rooting but thats just my nature I guess( what works for me)
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