Google Pixel 2 XL is not really IP67 water resistant

[anon(5630457)]

I didn't know that, but it's still not protected against chemicals and jets/current, right? I'm really curious how they made it resistant to humidity. I wonder if it's just a combination of the ingress protection and that nano-coating that Moto loves to use.

No, not protected from chemicals. But it is sealed really well, protecting it from humidity (and shock, and temperature extremes, salt fog...)

 

[pseudoware]

I really, really, want to know what exactly one does with his phone in the shower...

Make calls?

Take photos?

Send texts/sexts?

Well, we do have the AR stickers now.

 

[KWKSLVR]

Heat and pressure are bad things. Although I'll admit to cleaning my speaker grills under the faucet a time or two.

And yes, dirty speaker grills bug me that much.

 

[Malathan]

WTF do you need your phone in the shower for anyway????

Sexy wife and camera come to mind. Then again, that also answers question "why do you need medical insurance and funeral coverage?" too.

 

[blackhemi4x4]

Phones in showers are a necessity

 

[galaxyfive]

I really, really, want to know what exactly one does with his phone in the shower...

Make calls?

Take photos?

Send texts/sexts?

It's actually quite handy if you want to ask google "how many times should I rinse and repeat?", or ask google "is my phone really waterproof?".

 

[L0n3N1nja]

IP67 and even IP68 phones should NOT be taken in the shower, OR intentionally submerged. The rating does NOT mean your phone is waterproof. Just water resistant. YES it should survive the rain, OR a quick dunk in the pool, BUT in both cases you should get it to dryness ASAP.

My S7 has taken photos under water in lakes and streams, been in the shower on a regular basis(mostly just for music), and I've washed it in the sink. Still going strong, I know I'm testing my luck but whatever, it's my phone.

 

[sangs]

I really, really, want to know what exactly one does with his phone in the shower...

Make calls?

Take photos?

Send texts/sexts?

There's another thing I can think of, which is maybe why the phone was in there much longer than normal this time?

 

[Aquila]

My S7 has taken photos under water in lakes and streams, been in the shower on a regular basis(mostly just for music), and I've washed it in the sink. Still going strong, I know I'm testing my luck but whatever, it's my phone.

You're right it's your phone and you can do what you want with it.

None of those activities are part of the certification process nor warrantied against, but saying that is more for the people who don't know, not so much for people who understand and accept the risks.

 

[Morty2264]

I'm sorry this happened to you, OP! Especially with a shiny new Pixel 2 XL! Hopefully everything works out for you - please keep us posted!

 

[PowrDroid]

WTF do you need your phone in the shower for anyway????

And the first thing noticed is the camera no longer works.

Hmmm...

 

[Forest Dane]

Reminds me of my friend.
Took his iPhone 8+ into the swimming pool and got a fantastic video of him and his son surfacing from a few inches under water. Tried it again with his daughter and one dead phone.

 

[Jeremy8000]

The S8 Active is protected against humidity. just FYI.

Not sure if the ;-) was tongue in cheek or not (they really need to introduce a /sarcasm font). Does Samsung specifically and directly reference any additional protection rating in the user manual beyond the IP68 certification they note on their website?

 

[anon(5630457)]

Not sure if the ;-) was tongue in cheek or not (they really need to introduce a /sarcasm font). Does Samsung specifically and directly reference any additional protection rating in the user manual beyond the IP68 certification they note on their website?

See below.

 

[anon(5630457)]

Not sure if the ;-) was tongue in cheek or not (they really need to introduce a /sarcasm font). Does Samsung specifically and directly reference any additional protection rating in the user manual beyond the IP68 certification they note on their website?

Actually, yes. Page 205: http://downloadcenter.samsung.com/c...SM-G892A_GS8_Active_EN_UM_071017_FINAL_AC.PDF

 

[pkcable]

Actually, yes. Page 205: http://downloadcenter.samsung.com/c...SM-G892A_GS8_Active_EN_UM_071017_FINAL_AC.PDF

Interesting stuff on page 209 which covers what has happened here....

Maintaining Water and Dust Resistance This device is rated IP68 using the Ingress Protection rating system. Your device has been tested in a controlled environment and shown to be water and dust resistant in certain circumstances (meets requirements of classification IP68 as described by the international standard IEC 60529 – Degrees of Protection provided by Enclosures [IP Code]; test conditions: 15‑35°C, 86‑106 kPa, 5.0 feet, for 30 minutes). Despite this classification, your device is not impervious to water damage in any situation. It is important that all compartments are closed tightly. Note: If any liquid is found to have entered your device components or an internally sealed system, this condition will void your device warranty.

Follow these tips carefully to prevent damage to the device.
• Any device which uses accessible compartments or ports that can be opened, should have these sealed or closed tightly to prevent liquid from entering the system.

• Whenever your device gets wet, dry it thoroughly with a clean, soft cloth. If your device has gotten wet, you should dry the inside of the charging port before inserting a power connector to charge your device. If the charging port is not fully dry, your device may operate abnormally. For example, it may charge more slowly or overheat.

• Do not expose the device to salt water or ionized water, or to water over 5.0 feet deep for more than 30 minutes. If your device is exposed to fresh water, dry it thoroughly with a clean, soft cloth. If the device is exposed to any liquid other than fresh water, rinse the device with fresh water immediately and dry it thoroughly with a clean, soft cloth. Failure to rinse the device in fresh water and dry it as instructed may cause the device to suffer from operability or cosmetic issues.

• Do not expose the device to water at high pressure.

• If the device is dropped or receives an impact, the water and dust resistant features of the device may be damaged.

• To maintain the water‑resistant and dust‑resistant features of your device, if an S Pen is available for use, verify it is securely inserted prior to any exposure to liquids.

• The touchscreen and other features may not work properly if the device is used in water or in other liquids. [110116]

 

[anon(5630457)]

Interesting stuff on page 209 which covers what has happened here....

Kinda seems like that legalese is for all Samsung devices, not necessarily for the S8 Active in general. Covering their bases.

 

[Jeremy8000]

Kinda seems like that legalese is for all Samsung devices, not necessarily for the S8 Active in general. Covering their bases.

True, but if it weren't applicable they'd have promoted its 'superior ruggedness' by leaving parts out. Also, that mil spec denotes humidity protection, but not at high temperatures, etc. Did a quick search, looks like the G6 actually outshines it in its laundry list of claims (LG G6 Quality: Battery, MIL-STD 810G, Waterproof & More | LG USA).

But the point is simple: the fact that every phone reserves the right to refuse warranty service should they find that there has been water damage kind of makes the "waterproof" claim pointless. A more honest advertisement would be to indicate 'highly water resistant.' And MIL‑STD‑810G doesn't certify vs high temperature humidity like steam from a shower.

Edit - don't get me wrong - the S8 Active seems like a great phone, and will likely survive harsh situations better than most... but the best way to avoid damage on any phone is to avoid putting it intentionally in environments where it's likely to happen 'just because (you think) you can.'

 

[anon(5630457)]

but the best way to avoid damage on any phone is to avoid putting it intentionally in environments where it's likely to happen 'just because (you think) you can.'

The S8 Active passed 810G certification for humidity. I don't put it in harsh environments because I think I can. I put it in harsh environments because I know I can.

 

[05GT]

It's the heat/steam that jacked your phone up. Not the actual getting wet.