Google Pixel 2 XL is not really IP67 water resistant

[chanchan05]

Well If you think so look the Ingress Protocol Table, if they are acumulative, IPX5 and IPX6 are enought for that water streams

And that is where people get it wrong. IPX5 and X6 protection aren't needed to get IPX7 or IPX8.

 

[electricrelish]

IP67 and even IP68 phones should NOT be taken in the shower, OR intentionally submerged. The rating does NOT mean your phone is waterproof. Just water resistant. YES it should survive the rain, OR a quick dunk in the pool, BUT in both cases you should get it to dryness ASAP.

I took my LG G6 with it's IP68 rating into the Miami South Beach ocean last month. It was in my pocket. I took it out for photos. The phone worked the entire time. Just like LG' s commercials that had the phone submerged in water, the phone kept working. The LG G6 is really waterproof.

 

[TwitchyPuppy]

I took my LG G6 with it's IP68 rating into the Miami South Beach ocean last month. It was in my pocket. I took it out for photos. The phone worked the entire time. Just like LG' s commercials that had the phone submerged in water, the phone kept working. The LG G6 is really waterproof.

Water resistant*. You just got lucky salt didn’t damage seals or internals.

 

[dov1978]

I'd never intentionally submerge my phone or take it in a shower. My kid has ran in and thrown my phone at me when it was ringing and it plopped to the bottom of the bath and survived just fine but it's a failsafe for accidental drops and splashes that's all. Don't buy into the marketing BS of phones being used for underwater filming etc. It's there in case it falls into the toilet or you get caught in heavy rain or even fall into some fresh water. That's it.

 

[Mike Dee]

I took my LG G6 with it's IP68 rating into the Miami South Beach ocean last month. It was in my pocket. I took it out for photos. The phone worked the entire time. Just like LG' s commercials that had the phone submerged in water, the phone kept working. The LG G6 is really waterproof.

If and when it gets water intrusion they won't cover it.

 

[Morty2264]

I'd never intentionally submerge my phone or take it in a shower. My kid has ran in and thrown my phone at me when it was ringing and it plopped to the bottom of the bath and survived just fine but it's a failsafe for accidental drops and splashes that's all. Don't buy into the marketing BS of phones being used for underwater filming etc. It's there in case it falls into the toilet or you get caught in heavy rain or even fall into some fresh water. That's it.

For sure - it's for accidental drops and some hard rain/somewhat extreme weather conditions. But I'm still afraid to get my Pixel 2 wet!

 

[TraderGary]

I treat my Pixel 2 XL the same as I've always treated any phone. I try not to get it wet. So far, so good!

 

[hallux]

I treat my Pixel 2 XL the same as I've always treated any phone. I try not to get it wet. So far, so good!

I do the same. I don't read the IP67 rating as a license to take the phone swimming with me, or into the shower, I see it as protection from the "oops, I splashed some water on it" situations.

 

[Mike Dee]

I do the same. I don't read the IP67 rating as a license to take the phone swimming with me, or into the shower, I see it as protection from the "oops, I splashed some water on it" situations.

Exactly

 

[Rukbat]

IP67 is resistance to about 1.42 psi of water (1 meter depth). Water falling a couple of feet, especially when being forced through a small hole in a shower head, exerts a lot more force than that, so it's going to exceed IP67 specs. Consider the water resistance an "oops resistance" - if you spill water, and it seeps across the table and gets to the screen because the phone is face down, the phone is save, but even dropping the phone screen down from a height of a few feet into a meter of water will far exceed 1.42 pounds and force water into the phone.

There aren't waterproof phones - Nextel went out of business in 2005 (and had only 1 really waterproof phone and 1 almost waterproof phone). If you're out in the rain, the Pixel is probably safe, but if you take it into the shower, or drop it into a tub with water in it, it's probably going to get water damaged. And a waterproof phone includes water damage in the warranty, the Pixel doesn't. (No phone currently on the market does.)

 

[Morty2264]

IP67 is resistance to about 1.42 psi of water (1 meter depth). Water falling a couple of feet, especially when being forced through a small hole in a shower head, exerts a lot more force than that, so it's going to exceed IP67 specs. Consider the water resistance an "oops resistance" - if you spill water, and it seeps across the table and gets to the screen because the phone is face down, the phone is save, but even dropping the phone screen down from a height of a few feet into a meter of water will far exceed 1.42 pounds and force water into the phone.

There aren't waterproof phones - Nextel went out of business in 2005 (and had only 1 really waterproof phone and 1 almost waterproof phone). If you're out in the rain, the Pixel is probably safe, but if you take it into the shower, or drop it into a tub with water in it, it's probably going to get water damaged. And a waterproof phone includes water damage in the warranty, the Pixel doesn't. (No phone currently on the market does.)

Thank you for explaining that - that makes total sense. Do you think the temperature of the water would also play a role in causing water damage? Say, if the water is really hot in the shower or tub?

 

[chanchan05]

Thank you for explaining that - that makes total sense. Do you think the temperature of the water would also play a role in causing water damage? Say, if the water is really hot in the shower or tub?

Yes. These devices are only using seals. The way to open these devices actually is to heat them up so the seals will weaken so they can be pulled apart. So hes, in a hot enough environment with enough time, water can get in.

 

[Morty2264]

Yes. These devices are only using seals. The way to open these devices actually is to heat them up so the seals will weaken so they can be pulled apart. So hes, in a hot enough environment with enough time, water can get in.

Ah yes, because heat can make things expand. Thank you for confirming my theory!

 

[Rukbat]

The normal test for removing the display is that if the phone is just hot enough to be uncomfortably hot in your hand (about 135°F-150°F), the adhesive is hot enough to be pliable enough to force things (like credit cards) under it to force the screen off. But force, it won't fall off - the seal isn't gone, or shot through with holes, it's pliable - and still waterproof. To get the phone hot enough to break the seal would be a bit hotter than it would take to peel your skin off. But the water sealing isn't all glue or gluey substance, some of it is just the channeling of the case or an O-ring - and that can be breached by a little pressure, heat or no heat. I've seen IP68 phones get wet by being dropped into 2" deep "ponds" (covered by ice) that someone was ice skating on. Pretty cold water. (And mineral-salt-laden enough to ruin the phone faster than you can get the cover off.)

 

[Mike Dee]

IP67 is resistance to about 1.42 psi of water (1 meter depth). Water falling a couple of feet, especially when being forced through a small hole in a shower head, exerts a lot more force than that, so it's going to exceed IP67 specs. Consider the water resistance an "oops resistance" - if you spill water, and it seeps across the table and gets to the screen because the phone is face down, the phone is save, but even dropping the phone screen down from a height of a few feet into a meter of water will far exceed 1.42 pounds and force water into the phone.

There aren't waterproof phones - Nextel went out of business in 2005 (and had only 1 really waterproof phone and 1 almost waterproof phone). If you're out in the rain, the Pixel is probably safe, but if you take it into the shower, or drop it into a tub with water in it, it's probably going to get water damaged. And a waterproof phone includes water damage in the warranty, the Pixel doesn't. (No phone currently on the market does.)

Actually Caterpillar makes a phone they call waterproof but it's not a mainstream device. I can't find info on what the warranty covers though without making a inquiry.

https://www.catphones.com

 

[Rukbat]

The site says Ingress Protection, and the highest rating is IP68, so it's water resistant.

 

[Mike Dee]

The site says Ingress Protection, and the highest rating is IP68, so it's water resistant.

That's super deceptive since they advertise it as waterproof

 

[Fred98TJ]

And marketing is never deceptive. Hahahahahahahaha

 

[Mike Dee]

And marketing is never deceptive. Hahahahahahahaha

That's why I said Super Deceptive. I guess I should have said outright lie.

 

[Morty2264]

That's why I said Super Deceptive. I guess I should have said outright lie.

Outright Lies! I like that. Sounds serious.