Google Pixel 2

[jamezr]

We're talking about whether or not the pixel 2 will have an SD card. The challenges and the manufacturer objection to it are pretty relevant. The absence or presence of the feature in other devices or other kinds of products seems pretty immaterial.

quite the contrary......the fact the SD Cards exists in other phones with great success is fully relevant to this discussion. In fact having an SD Card is a great selling point.
I don't think Google will include it in the Pixel 2 though.

 

[Aquila]

quite the contrary......the fact the SD Cards exists in other phones with great success is fully relevant to this discussion. In fact having an SD Card is a great selling point.
I don't think Google will include it in the Pixel 2 though.

Wonder if they are gonna put a Sd card in it since they rushed the 1st Pixel phone out.

No, SD cards, in Google's public opinion, are for budget devices in developing markets where cloud services are prohibitive and internal storage can't be found in sufficient quantities.

I think this is what I was responding to but like I said, I earlier:

I think we may have lost each other? Probably my fault.

 

[LeoRex]

I don't think Google will include it in the Pixel 2 though.

Oh, I know they won't... near 100% certainty. So if your use case requires an SD card, it probably won't be the phone for you.

 

[jamezr]

Oh, I know they won't... near 100% certainty. So if your use case requires an SD card, it probably won't be the phone for you.

It is a feature I would love to have on the Pixel 2. I already have a Pixel XL and love the phone and plan on getting the Pixel 2 this fall.

 

[Aquila]

Oh, I know they won't... near 100% certainty. So if your use case requires an SD card, it probably won't be the phone for you.

Current probability is 99.99% that you are correct.

 

[camaroz1985]

Can we move this to the sd card forum?

I have had several SD cards fail. I like the cheap nature of adding storage with the card, but as long as there is an option for at least 128GB I"m fine with that. I don't care that it is more expensive then 32GB. When you are looking at a $650 phone to start the extra $100 seems insignificant.

I would just hope for IP68, maybe smaller bezels so they could increase screen size in the same footprint (Maybe 5.2 and 5.7"). I'm sure they will go with curved glass, but I would rather it be completely flat, not even slightly curved toward the edges like it is now. Headphone jack is nice, but not necessary for me.

 

[Aquila]

I agree I'd like a flat display, IP68 I'd be pretty surprised if they skipped. Size and whatnot I'm fine with, but as long as it's not an all glass super long phone, I'm probably gonna be ok.

 

[LeoRex]

Personally, I say just evolve the current design a bit. Don't buy into the bezel hate movement... I happen to like some meat to grab on to. Same for the curved screen silliness. My wife has a S7 Edge and other than looking kind of cool, that adds zero utility. The only thing that it brought to the table is making it near impossible to put a decent fitting screen protector on the thing. Add IP68, why not... Maybe bump the battery cell size up on the smaller one, keeping it at 1080P and getting it closer to the XL in terms of battery performance. In a perfect world, the smaller Pixel would match the XL in that regard.

But stick to the same formula of the current Pixel line, just upgraded.

Develop the camera more...Google has one hell of a good group of optical engineers in there now. With increased performance and another year under their belts, I am sure the cameras on the 2 will be excellent again. HDR+ is still the premiere photographic processing system on the market, so if it ain't broke....

 

[xocomaox]

I like sealed devices with a larger capacity internal storage. I know from the get go how much space I have and don't have to concern myself with what SD card to add or what I can and cannot store to it. Sure, it sounds limiting, but for my smartphone experience, that's what I prefer at the moment. Its simple and effective.

I don't care to research what SD card offers the best performance, and finding it on my own. I like to keep it simple, and remove the potential for external cards to effect my experience.

You are the perfect candidate for an iPhone.

 

[xocomaox]

If that were the case, yes I'd still be fine with it, but that's not the case, because those software engineers and others working on the project will be working on other projects and almost every other project they could work on is more important, to me, than the SD card implementation. That's true up and down the chain for every aspect of resource expended on it. Every dollar, every second, every molecule could have been conserved or better spent elsewhere. Something, somewhere is less awesome than it could be because a phone has an SD card slot. Whatever that is, to me, the tradeoff was not worth it.

I feel the exact same way about the FPS on phones. I don't use it and don't want any resources put into developing it to add to cost. But I understand the public wanting phones with them.

 

[Aquila]

You are the perfect candidate for an iPhone.

And a Pixel!

 

[davidnc]

As far as the Pixel 2 goes,
Im not a fan of SD cards . Yup I had some fail.
The last phone I had with a SD card slot I never purchased an SD card for it.

I would hope it didn't have Curved Display

I hope both models have the similar specs.

As far as bezel goes , They could trim it down some maybe by half. Just to make the physical size of the phone slightly smaller.But the OG Pixel bezels aren't that bad

As far as Water Resistance that would be a bonus

Stereo speakers

Headphone jack, I could go either way on that.

 

[Law2138]

You are the perfect candidate for an iPhone.

That's blasphemy.

 

[amotter]

I am going to look further at the S8 battery life. It is a little early to really know. It appears that people are saying that the s8 battery life is very similar to the S7....pretty good at first, a year later not so good. My friends who have S7s say that they got close to a day out of the box (not good enough IMHO) and now battery degregation/apps/etc. make plugging it in at some point in the day pretty standard.

This is what I anticpate: In June or July I will look at the S8 battery reviews. If folks are not getting a 16 hour charge out of it with moderate use...I am passing on the S8 and waiting for Pixel 2. If Pixel 2 can do this, then I am pulling the trigger on it. If not....I am thinking I need to swithc to Apple. How can Apple's battery life be SO much better than androids?

 

[LeoRex]

I am going to look further at the S8 battery life. It is a little early to really know. It appears that people are saying that the s8 battery life is very similar to the S7....pretty good at first, a year later not so good. My friends who have S7s say that they got close to a day out of the box (not good enough IMHO) and now battery degregation/apps/etc. make plugging it in at some point in the day pretty standard.

This is what I anticpate: In June or July I will look at the S8 battery reviews. If folks are not getting a 16 hour charge out of it with moderate use...I am passing on the S8 and waiting for Pixel 2. If Pixel 2 can do this, then I am pulling the trigger on it. If not....I am thinking I need to swithc to Apple. How can Apple's battery life be SO much better than androids?

First... the S8's battery life is pretty much the primary reason I might avoid it like the plague. My wife HAD an S7 and it the battery performance there was junk. She was constantly complaining about how it ran out of juice to quickly and I eventually moved her into an S7 Edge (well, there was a very brief stint on the phone-that-shall-not-be-named)... and she is MUCH happier with the larger Edge. But the S8 is nearly the same size as her Edge, the S8+ is WAY too big a phone for her to use day to day... so, in my eyes, the S8 is a pretty big downgrade there.

By the way... with the iPhone, the only one that gets good battery life in the larger-celled Plus. The smaller iPhone 7 is dogpoo in that regard. As to why the 7 Plus gets the battery life it does compared to Android phones, that's a long discussion in its own right.

 

[cardboard60]

Another reason to get the S8+ phone. it has a bigger battery.
It was stated Samsung borrowed the Batteries from LG.
And its said the LG batteries will charge up to 100% for a longer time after charges and discharges.
Think a lot of the Bloatware also drains the batteries.

 

[Aquila]

It was stated Samsung borrowed the Batteries from LG.
And its said the LG batteries will charge up to 100% for a longer time after charges and discharges.

Can you explain this part?

 

[cardboard60]

Samsung is making extra-sure the Galaxy S8’s battery won’t explode – BGR
Samsung is rumored to be getting their batteries from LG on the new S8 phones.

 

[Aquila]

Samsung is making extra-sure the Galaxy S8’s battery won’t explode – BGR
Samsung is rumored to be getting their batteries from LG on the new S8 phones.

Can't click on a BGR link, but that rumor would make sense, since they've used LG for batteries for quite some time now, including for the Note 7. They used LG, SDI and another battery manufacturer in China for the Chinese Note 7 devices.

 

[7AndTRT]

It has a lot of importance when we're trying to argue whether or not the Pixel 2 is likely to have an SD card I happen to agree with Google's reasoning, but that aside... given what we know their position to be, we should expect them to continue to avoid using that feature.

For what it's worth, I've had SD cards cause phone instability in several phones - from BB 9900 to z10 to Galaxy S Vibrant to HTC M8. I trashed the SD cards and haven't looked back.

I won't use them in phones.