Google Pixel 3 / 3 XL 2018

[I Can Be Your Hero]

I think Google is stuck in a space between competing with the OnePlus's of the world and the iPhone's, they owned the lower end space when they had Nexus and then decided to change direction and challenge iPhone and Samsung but in my oinion have not and are not doing enough.

Andy Rubin had the right idea with the Essential phone and I think he wanted to create a phone in the original vision of Android. a stock experience on a solid well crafted designed hardware. If only he had nailed the camera/OS.......what a nice phone the Essential phone was, if only their was a PH-2......

Yeah the Essential Phone was very impressive. 1st attempt at a smartphone for a brand new company and they nail a really great design along with high specs for the time.

Agree that Google aren't really doing enough to compete with iPhone/Samsung phones. If people want the iPhone, they'll pick up the iPhone, but if they want an Android phone, the consumer has the Galaxy S9+ and next to it, the Pixel 3 XL - which do you think they'll choose?

Specs alone, the S9+ is better. Deisgn (while subjective), I'd argue most consumers would think the S9+ is much better.

The Pixel line definity has its strengths, but they're definitely not on the hardware end. And it's hard for the general consumer to see the advantages of the Pixel line in a phone when next to its competitors. If Google really want the Pixel line to be *the* iPhone competitor, then they need to step it up a lot.

 

[ChuckG73]

I think I'm misunderstanding. How is Google trying to take on OnePlus?

Not a true budget, mid teir or premium phone....that is what I meant

 

[Itsa_Me_Mario]

Specs alone, the S9+ is better.

Other than RAM... in what way? I'm looking at the S9+ spec sheet and they're almost identical on just about every category.

 

[Mike Dee]

I sorta feel like my Nexus 6 had wireless charging.

Yes the Nexus 6 did. The 5X made by LG did as well. The plastic on the 5X had a ceramic like look and feel.

 

[Mike Dee]

I think I'm misunderstanding. How is Google trying to take on OnePlus?

I feel like it's the other way around

 

[mustang7757]

Yes the Nexus 6 did. The 5X made by LG did as well. The plastic on the 5X had a ceramic like look and feel.

5x didn't have wireless charging
6 and 5 did

 

[mustang7757]

5x didn't have wireless charging
6 and 5 did

Look at that beauty , still have her

 

[Mike Dee]

5x didn't have wireless charging
6 and 5 did

You're right....I forgot. But it could have had it

 

[mustang7757]

You're right....I forgot. But it could have had it

I know

 

[mustang7757]

down the road I'm going to update the motherboard its supposed to have an updated version with 4gb ram
I already did the charging port and battery for 10.00 myself...little project

 

[anon(10092459)]

1st attempt at a smartphone for a brand new company and they nail a really great design along with high specs for the time.

In what way? I mean, the phone was released just a year ago and the specs aren't better than the 2 XL. PH-1 even has a smaller battery at 3040 mAh.

And it's hard for the general consumer to see the advantages of the Pixel line in a phone when next to its competitors.

This may be the 1 in 100 part of your posts that I actually agree with. Their style of marketing is going to take more time to resonate and connect the brand and their offering. I've said this before and still believe it... the Pixel line isn't for everyone.

 

[dsignori]

Other than RAM... in what way? I'm looking at the S9+ spec sheet and they're almost identical on just about every category.

Does a headphone jack and a WAY better screen counts as specs? In any case consumers are drawn to these things for sure.

 

[Itsa_Me_Mario]

Does a headphone jack and a WAY better screen counts as specs? In any case consumers are drawn to these things for sure.

The headphone jack does, the better display doesn't but I definitely think it matters more than the headphone jack. This is part of what I tried to describe the other day - the things that matter don't actually get listed when doing the spec sheet comparison, such as camera image quality, display quality, audio quality, build quality, etc.

 

[Mike Dee]

Does a headphone jack and a WAY better screen counts as specs? In any case consumers are drawn to these things for sure.

It depends on who you ask.
As far as I'm concerned the adapter is an improvement in sound over most other devices. One disadvantage is not being to charge and listen at the same time without purchasing an additional adapter, however I have never needed to do that. Another disadvantage is you can lose the adapter. I keep mine attached and have extra because I use different buds or headphones. The thing is that I am seeing more and more people using wireless sound so again it depends on who you ask.

The screen being better is subjective. I'll play along and say that the Sammy is probably better, however I've put them side by side and for me I don't think it's way better. It's certainly not better enough that I wouldn't buy the Pixel because of the difference. For me it's the total package that counts and I don't like Samsung's design and software. It's certainly not about the money since both devices are in the same category. We all have to come to terms with the fact that we all don't like the same things regardless of which one is better and more popular.

 

[Itsa_Me_Mario]

Sammy is probably better, however I've put them side by side and for me I don't think it's way better. It's certainly not better enough that I wouldn't buy the Pixel because of the difference.

Samsung S9+ and the P2 XL are nearly identical in terms of color accuracy, etc. The S9+ shifts red instead of blue, but has better quality control. They both crush blacks. The S9+ has the advantage of being able to bend the display around the sides/bottom of the device in order to reduce bezels. I absolutely hate the "edge" display, I don't get it and I think it sucks. That said, I think there are some people that like it.

Looking at my S8+ and P2 XL side by side, I think viewing angles are better on the S8+, colors look better IMO on the P2 XL - even though I know that they are too similar for me to actually be able to tell.

 

[Mike Dee]

Samsung S9+ and the P2 XL are nearly identical in terms of color accuracy, etc. The S9+ shifts red instead of blue, but has better quality control. They both crush blacks. The S9+ has the advantage of being able to bend the display around the sides/bottom of the device in order to reduce bezels. I absolutely hate the "edge" display, I don't get it and I think it sucks. That said, I think there are some people that like it.

Looking at my S8+ and P2 XL side by side, I think viewing angles are better on the S8+, colors look better IMO on the P2 XL - even though I know that they are too similar for me to actually be able to tell.

The distortion at the curved edges is just one of the things that kills it for me.

 

[mustang7757]

Samsung screens are the best period...
and I will not listen to excuses
I see the difference between all my phones

 

[anon(10092459)]

Samsung screens are the best period...
and I will not listen to excuses??????
I see the difference between all my phones

I think Samsung is without question the best at displays. But do Google/Android and Apple want to HAVE to 'bend the knee' to them forever?? Alternatives demand to be developed.

 

[mustang7757]

I think Samsung is without question the best at displays. But do Google/Android and Apple want to HAVE to 'bend the knee' to them forever?? Alternatives demand to be developed.

At this point they should go with Samsung, I believe their the only ones that can mass produce for a OEM...I think LG is next but I'm not wowed by their displays, The TV are not bad at all ,but the phones not so great.

 

[anon(10092459)]

At this point they should go with Samsung, I believe their the only ones that can mass produce for a OEM...I think LG is next but I'm not wowed by their displays, The TV are not bad at all ,but the phones not so great.

That's fair .. But I think for Google the idea of "silver or bronze medal" in the Olympics of the device world is good enough. As another member of our community pointed out to me once, Apple HAS to sell phones as it's their lifeblood. They HAVE to have the best ... Google hardware isn't even a line item yet for Google and probably won't be for years.