I don't get why they're so determined to prove their OS is strong on the high end, their OS is winning, it's just predominately low end models.
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Yeah, I get how it happen(s)(ed), but at some point we could just call it "close enough".
For example I could say:
Here, let me provide the actual values here:
Apple: A lot. No one (including probably Apple) actually knows, especially by model.
Samsung: A lot. Probably less than Apple. No one (including probably Samsung) actually knows.
HTC, LG, Moto, Sony, etc: A lot - and a lot less than Samsung.
[FONT=arial, sans-serif]Categories 2 & 3, when examining only their "flagship" offerings, might be close to the value of category 1. [/FONT]
[FONT=arial, sans-serif]And without sourcing I think we mostly could agree that I'm in the ballpark. IMO anyone claiming to know the actual sales/shipment figures doesn't understand either the metric or the nature of self reporting. [/FONT]
[FONT=arial, sans-serif]That being said, the argument ought to be strong enough to stand on the merits of the logical following of it's premise, for which one could say that: Apple made their deal in order to enhance brand recognition and that such a move would be more or most reasonable if they felt their current branding insufficient to match the recognition status of their chief rival(s) OR if they are trying to imply value add to overcome the delta between sales volume and market share by encouraging those that may eschew their offering due to price or app/ecosystem [/FONT]interoperability restrictions to try their product due to a combination of cross-branding value propositions. They don't actually need to be behind in order for that to be true or false, the logical merit stands alone and becomes more or less likely depending upon that positioning.
Right now everyone seems to be saying the three values I put above in various ways and arguing to the degree and the credibility of the assumption of the degree. IMO we could call it "close enough" and move into the supposition of the truth of the premise (or one close to it) and then analyze, debate, applaud or decry the move(s) accordingly.
And/or I don't care who sold more devices, so if you guys just want to wake me up when that part has been figured out and we're moving on to the original argument, I'll go play somewhere else until we're ready
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Google copying Apple for a change
Hahaha sorry about that,that was an old one here you go:
March 25,2014.
Just iPhones.
"Apple has now sold over 500 million iPhones"
http://bgr.com/2014/03/25/apple-iphone-sales-500-million/
Hahaha sorry about that,that was an old one here you go:
March 25,2014.
Just iPhones.
"Apple has now sold over 500 million iPhones"
http://bgr.com/2014/03/25/apple-iphone-sales-500-million/
52.46 percent low end Android 19.1 percent is iPhone Windows Phone is 3.3 percent Blackberry is 1.9 percent. Between Bada and Windows Mobile they're somehow garnishing almost two percent as well... Weird.
Add those up.
78.86 percent.
Now, that leaves 21.14 percent to the remainder of Android, 215 and up (I used the thread you posted the other day as source by the way in your junk phone thread) with a huge portion sitting between the 240 and 310 chunk. Some of those are likely Nexus devices which, by your standards, qualify as high end but most are cheap little name OEMs. From there, it's speculation. Do you really feel as though at least two percent of that doesn't fall inside the bounds of the phones you listed, all of which exceed $499 or at least did at release? It'd be heavy speculation to say that they did given the number of Galaxy S4 sales. I will say, it would be a close game but the odds are slightly in favor of the iPhone. I'm a betting man and I'd bet the iPhone wins by a slim 1-2 percent margin though I feel that could plausibly change in years to come. We shall see.
e; to further support my bet that iPhone would be winning there
https://forums.androidcentral.com/e...lling%2Fandroid-phone%2Fv.html&token=lHO6sbfg
http://www.amazon.com/Best-Sellers-...ag=hawk-future-20&ascsubtag=UUacUvbUpU3719368
Two of the biggest online market places.
e2; Sources are general market share knowledge. I hope you can find them. I am on my mobile and the one thing I would like is a decent clipboard app. Any suggestions for the Moto X
Add those up.
78.86 percent.
Now, that leaves 21.14 percent to the remainder of Android, 215 and up (I used the thread you posted the other day as source by the way in your junk phone thread) with a huge portion sitting between the 240 and 310 chunk. Some of those are likely Nexus devices which, by your standards, qualify as high end but most are cheap little name OEMs. From there, it's speculation. Do you really feel as though at least two percent of that doesn't fall inside the bounds of the phones you listed, all of which exceed $499 or at least did at release? It'd be heavy speculation to say that they did given the number of Galaxy S4 sales. I will say, it would be a close game but the odds are slightly in favor of the iPhone. I'm a betting man and I'd bet the iPhone wins by a slim 1-2 percent margin though I feel that could plausibly change in years to come. We shall see.
e; to further support my bet that iPhone would be winning there
https://forums.androidcentral.com/e...lling%2Fandroid-phone%2Fv.html&token=lHO6sbfg
http://www.amazon.com/Best-Sellers-...ag=hawk-future-20&ascsubtag=UUacUvbUpU3719368
Two of the biggest online market places.
e2; Sources are general market share knowledge. I hope you can find them. I am on my mobile and the one thing I would like is a decent clipboard app. Any suggestions for the Moto X
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This is the funniest thing I have ever read, built quality doesn't mean aluminum. My Nexus 5 Destroys an iphone in every area you can amagin for half the price.. now tell me what the iphone does so amazing thats worth another $300? ""best support in the technological world"" HAHHA
Only in the USA! Andriod Dominates the rest of the markets... Andriod is catching up here in the usa though
More reliable, more secure, better camera, maintains battery better, the audio recording is much better, no common network dropping, audio quality is better, it doesn't fail miserably at every drop test like the Nexus 5... Should I continue? I mean last drop test I saw with an M8, Galaxy S5, iPhone 5S and a Nexus 5, the Nexus 5 was the only one to totally shatter and it wasn't even a far fall.
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Actually, in most other markets the low end dominates so his statement is still correct.
Your a funny guy.. More reliable.. um? both are reliable phones how can you determine which more is more reliable, Nexus is extremely reliable LOL, I'v never had a problem. More secure..? your saying the "Playstore" isn't secure? For your information (Any Device connected to the internet isnt secure).... Believe it or not my Nexus 5 battery lasts a bit longer then the iphone users i know!!!! LOL... I dont have any network dropping lmfao!!!!!!!!!!!! Audio quality? um I connect it to a system for audio quality thanks. Still failed to explain why someone would spend another $300!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Also i'v see camera comparations and it keeps up with the Iphone 5s pretty well. I did my research before buying this phone, maybe for the "SLIGHT" things the iphone MIGHT be better at isnt worth 300
The Play Store doesn't have malware released on their phones, nor did I ever have to perform a hard reset on my iPhone. In two weeks with the nexus 5 I did two. If your nexus 5 outlasts an iPhone then it must be on standby a lot because the battery drain with the Nexus 5 is a known issue as is the network dropping on most major networks. That's a fault of the radio used though. It's cool that you connect to a system for Audio, that's not everyone. Every reason I listed is a reason to spend an additional $300 as is the fact that they have arguably the best support team ever. The only comparable option is Nokia.
If they have a problem with their Nexus 5, all they have to do is walk into a Google store and get it fixed or replaced on the spot. Oh, wait.......
If they have a problem with their Nexus 5, all they have to do is walk into a Google store and get it fixed or replaced on the spot. Oh, wait.......
Or they deal with LG support which just screams Dubai slums, mail it in, wait 11 days to get your phone back (Hope you got a spare) and don't be shocked if it's a refurbished unit that they never actually refurbished and just repackaged.
I agree with A895. I don't want the fact that I actually had to do math to go to waste
Because it is a myth that it is predominantly low end models. Especially in the US.
Yeah, I get how it happen(s)(ed), but at some point we could just call it "close enough".
For example I could say:
Here, let me provide the actual values here:
Apple: A lot. No one (including probably Apple) actually knows, especially by model.
Samsung: A lot. Probably less than Apple. No one (including probably Samsung) actually knows.
HTC, LG, Moto, Sony, etc: A lot - and a lot less than Samsung.
[FONT=arial, sans-serif]Categories 2 & 3, when examining only their "flagship" offerings, might be close to the value of category 1. [/FONT]
Thats the thing...they will not accept your answer. They are arguing that it is NOT close. That is what this back and forth is all about.
He might be arguing that it's not close... I said it was likely close and unless there are some huge changes with the new iPhone might shift even this year. I came up with as much math as you could get to back it as well.
I actually think the links sourced at the bottom show that it's likely mostly low end. Then again, we have all the people these days who believe contracts are beneficial to them.
I haven't restarted my Nexus in a few months.... and if I do, its because i decide to, not because of an issue. Actually I use my Nexus alot and idk why Iphones tend to have 15 % or more less better then me lol. idk? Maybe its just a coincidence. "Best Support team" LOL nice one. Still doesn't look like a extra $300 to me, I have NFC, Bigger screen (1080P), 32GB(for $350), wigets, 2GB RAM, bigger battery *(Iphone has less things going on thats why it might last longer)* & more.
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