hotspot teather..pay or not pay??

[johnnnyo]

PDANet is the way to go for tethering. Screw Verizon! Who cares whether they are aware of it or not. They have been over charging customers for way to long so get what you can.

 

[TabGuy]

I read your original post before you edited it in the time frame allowed without a notation that you edited it. So I will respond to what I read.

You obviously have never read the VZW contract and therefore you assume to use the GNex as it was designed is stealing. You are ignorant of both the law and the contract you entered into.

Stop spreading misinformation. If you don't know what the contract states and are too ignorant of the law to know how to interpret it then shut up.

You are not a man of integrity, you are ignorant. And your ignorance costs you and your family money.

Thanks for the note. I changed my post because I realize that I didn't have the contract in front of me.

But, I stand by what I said. The post that I did make didn't reflect anything but those that felt it was OK to steal from a vendor. It's clear, if what you say is correct, that they hadn't read the contract either and were making the same assumptions that I had made. These are the same people that will buy a child's ticket for their kid at the movie theater when the kid is over the age posted. Their mantra of "screw the corporation" is one that is lacking integrity.

I know that morals and manners are old fashioned and "not cool" but there are some of us that believe in the right thing.

I'll go back and revisit my Verizon contract, something that Verizon can change at any time. If it's permitted to use third parties to use tethering I might give it a nod. However, the $23 I pay (discounted) for unlimited is too tempting. They can easily cut off third party tethering. I'll never be able to get unlimited again.

An aside comment: It's absolutely, positively none of your business how I spend my money with regard to my family. Additionally, it's clear that your parents never informed you that telling other to shut up is poor manners.

 

[bobby1125]

Guilt why? For using the data your pay for?



You can USB or Bluetooth tether too.

I have GN and used it once for tether/hotspot. But connection was slow once my laptop is connected to company VPN (without VPN, speed is fast).

How can I use USB for tether? Just connect USB charging cable to my laptop?

 

[p08757]

I pay out of guilt

I pay, but not out of guilt. I pay because its the right thing to do.

 

[Z Fury]

I pay, but not out of guilt. I pay because its the right thing to do.

I hope you also drive the posted speed limit on every road you travel. Because that is also the right thing to do.

 

[p08757]

There are obviously two camps when it comes to this.

Those who tether and don't pay for it.

Those who tether and pay for it.

I belong to the second camp, because I believe its the right thing to do. I personally don't care what everyone else chooses to do when it comes to tethering, but can we all PLEASE stop troling and bashing everyone on this? Everyone needs to take a huge "grow up" pill.

 

[Nechasin]

There are obviously two camps when it comes to this.

Those who tether and don't pay for it.

Those who tether and pay for it.

I belong to the second camp, because I believe its the right thing to do. I personally don't care what everyone else chooses to do when it comes to tethering, but can we all PLEASE stop troling and bashing everyone on this? Everyone needs to take a huge "grow up" pill.

Oh and there is a third camp.....Those who don't have a need to tether, so we don't tether and don't pay for it.

 

[thebignewt]

Oh and there is a third camp.....Those who don't have a need to tether, so we don't tether and don't pay for it.

Yeah, I'm in that camp. I have a feeling that the tethering people may not have a cable internet connection at home or something like that. I pay $40/month for that and another $30/month to Vzn for unlimited data. I use about 300mb of Verizon's data/month, plus WiFi. If I had a need to tether to a laptop on occasion then I'd use the info from this forum to do it using the unlimited data that I pay for. And no, I've never read my contract. I think Big Red's been very happy to have me as a customer. I'd really rather have stayed with Tmobile but they don't have 3G coverage where I live.

 

[Andrew Martonik]

I have GN and used it once for tether/hotspot. But connection was slow once my laptop is connected to company VPN (without VPN, speed is fast).

How can I use USB for tether? Just connect USB charging cable to my laptop?

On windows, just plug it in over USB then set it up as a network device

On OSX, it doesn't really work...

It won't be super fast though. WiFi tether is probably faster. It just makes more sense if you're only needing the connection for 1 computer to not broadcast WiFi.

 

[Andrew Martonik]

I pay, but not out of guilt. I pay because its the right thing to do.

I have a problem with this statement simply because what you think is "right" and other people think is "right" may or may not be the same thing.

You should be saying "I pay because I feel its the right thing to do.".

I think its not right for a carrier to charge me to use data, and charge me again to use the same data just because its on a laptop.

Do you realize how crazy of a policy it would be if Comcast (or Time Warner, Roadrunner, etc., name your local ISP) gave you a cable modem, but you could only use it with 1 "authorized" computer, and if you wanted to connect a router, they charged you more per month? Could you imagine if an ISP charged $50 for internet connection, and $30 more per month as a "router fee"? That's absolutely absurd. No one would stand for this policy. Why should it be any different for mobile? You're on a capped data plan (in most cases) and for that reason you should be able to use your data any way you want it.

Now, for reasons of bandwidth constraints I understand if you have an unlimited mobile plan, that maybe (and that's a big maybe) they charge for tethering simply because they would see a lot of "abuse" w/o an additional fee, and they want to recoup some losses. But even then, if you have signed the contract and you're on an unlimited plan, that shouldn't have an asterisk(*) by it.

 

[GNex Girl]

There are obviously two camps when it comes to this.

Those who tether and don't pay for it.

Those who tether and pay for it.

I belong to the second camp, because I believe its the right thing to do. I personally don't care what everyone else chooses to do

If you don't care, why post on this thread to tell us how you take the "high road" lol? Umm, because you obviously care.

I personally can't stand you holier-than-thou types harping on the same, misguided point. You cannot grasp the SIMPLE fact that VZW knows the GNex has this capability and allows it to be sold and used on its network. VZW obviously feels this is a good business decision. If you think you are smarter than the VZW execs who think this is a good business decision, continue to second guess them.

I won't. I will just use my device as it was designed to be used and as VZW knowingly allows me to use it on their network.

Everyone needs to take a huge "grow up" pill.

Not everyone. Just you holier-than-thou types need to.

 

[GNex Girl]

but those that felt it was OK to steal from a vendor.

Obviously not the sharpest tack in the box.

If you are so naive and stupid to think that VZW doesn't know this is going on, then you are not worth my time to respond to.

Ah, what I wouldn't give for an ignore button.

 

[greydarrah]

But, I stand by what I said. The post that I did make didn't reflect anything but those that felt it was OK to steal from a vendor. It's clear, if what you say is correct, that they hadn't read the contract either and were making the same assumptions that I had made. These are the same people that will buy a child's ticket for their kid at the movie theater when the kid is over the age posted. Their mantra of "screw the corporation" is one that is lacking integrity.

I know that morals and manners are old fashioned and "not cool" but there are some of us that believe in the right thing.

I assume that on your high moral ground, you go ahead and send the city/county/state your traffiic ticket fines whenever you drive 66 mph in a 65 mph zone...or do you just steal it from them like we all steal the data that we've already paid for? If you're going to take the high road, you need be certain that you've never deviated from it.

If you don't want to take advantage of free tethering, that's fine, but I don't think it's cool to refer to those of us that do in the context of stealing. Whether you see it our way or not, many of us feel that we've already paid for the data and to try to charge us for it again is no less a theft.

 

[Ricky Babalu]

Whether you agree or disagree with tethering, there is a decorum that should be followed. Accusations, childish name-calling, and the negative tone in which replies are posted accomplish nothing.

 

[samkatz]

I tether for free while doing 75 in a 65 mph zone.

 

[thirsy1258]

I like when other people pay for tethering. Vzw rapes them enough to leave me alone as I only use small data anyway. Regardless of what our views are do what you want. If it was reasonable in price I wouldnt mind. But with two smart phones already on my plan and 60 bucks in the same data it makes no sense. I am wondering what this family data plan will look like.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk

 

[beerhound]

I like when other people pay for tethering. Vzw rapes them enough to leave me alone as I only use small data anyway. Regardless of what our views are do what you want. If it was reasonable in price I wouldnt mind. But with two smart phones already on my plan and 60 bucks in the same data it makes no sense. I am wondering what this family data plan will look like.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk

Then you will love me. I don't have access to DSL or Cable, my internet options are satellite @ over $70 a month, dial-up @ $10 but so slow it is useless or I choose wireless tethering to my phone for $30.

Wireless data use is going up so fast, that we will ALL be feeling it soon.

4G-LTE won't solve 3G's problems - Mar. 29, 2011

FTA: There is only so much data that can be crammed into wireless spectrum -- and only so much spectrum available to wireless networks. Thanks to rising mobile data demands, a current wireless spectrum surplus of 225 MHz will become a deficit of 275 MHz by 2014, according to the FCC.

I pay the $30 so I don't have to wonder if VZ will cut me off or throttle me for excessive use. Desktop web pages use far more data than mobile pages. I'm not paying the extra $ out of some altruistic idea that I owe them the money. When the hammer falls on the big time users, I want to be one of the ones who is paying for a service and getting it rather than one of the ones who is gaming the system and then gets cut off.

 

[GNex Girl]

one of the ones who is gaming the system and then gets cut off.

We are not gaming the system. We are using the device as the device was designed by Google and Samsung to be used with the full knowledge of VZW.

Sounds like you need to drink less beer, beehound, it is affecting your ability to reason.

 

[GNex Girl]

I pay the $30 so I don't have to wonder if VZ will cut me off or throttle me for excessive use.

Currently they don't do that on 4G LTE.

I'm not paying the extra $ out of some altruistic idea that I owe them the money. When the hammer falls on the big time users, I want to be one of the ones who is paying for a service and getting it rather than one of the ones who is gaming the system and then gets cut off.

That's dumb. No one on 4G LTE is throttled on VZW yet. Once they are, fine then pay for the same data twice if you have to in order not to be throttled. Makes no sense to pay a second time for data you have already paid for until they start throttling.

Again beerhound, lay off the beer, it is affecting your ability to reason.

 

[beerhound]

We are not gaming the system. we are using the device as the device was designed by Google and Samsung to be used with the full knowledge of VZW.

Sounds like you need to drink less beer, beehound, it is affecting your ability to reason.

First: I didn't give anyone else a hard time for their choices. I just stated MY reasons for paying the fee. You question my reasoning skills. Wow. Did YOU read the article? Here is some reasoning for you, regardless of who designed the device to do what, or what VZW advertised (as if they haven't over promised and under sold in the past) it will soon be limited in it's ability to do those things unless they can put more of the wireless spectrum into use.

It is simple physics, only so much data can be sent via a radio signal, when that limit is reached we are all "throttled" no matter what the capabilities of our individual phones happen to be. There is a spectrum deficit that will affect ALL data users (not sure if it will affect voice). That probably won't happen until next year, but it will come. The improvements that LTE is bringing will barely keep up with the exponential growth in data use. At first.

Beerhound is a reference to my former hobby of home brewing my own beer, not an indicator of my BAC. At this point I will avoid being a dick and saying the things that popped into my mind at first. How about we talk about the technology in the devices we love and the technical obstacles to using them the way we want.