How many of you getting the EVO are coming from a Pre/Pixi?

[osc006]

I like WebOS but hate the Pre build quality enough to switch...

 

[gabato]

I plan to get the EVO on another number and use my Google Voice number for a while and keep my Pre for a while longer. I really like my Pre but I think I am going to like the EVO more. We'll see.

 

[fr4nk1yn]

Another poll?

 

[Bujin#IM]

I'm tentatively saying yes - but I'll need to hold it in my hands to be convinced it's not too big.

 

[Bigchris]

I love WebOS and I'm another launch day Pre Owner as well. I'm waiting to see what Palm may come out with (I'm still hoping that Palm comes out with a stunner), but at the same time, I love the EVO's screen, the power it has, and some of the other little features it has as well. For the past few weeks, I've been doing my best to learn Android so that the transition will be smooth.. I don't have a problem trying a phone out and then seeing if it is or isn't for me, but I'm gonna at least try it out and go from there.

 

[jstew10]

I wish it didn't have to end this way, but yeah, I'm on the Evo bandwagon. I was really excited to get my Pre and I love webOS, but the Evo just kills everything else out there. I probably wouldn't be considering it if it weren't on Sprint, but it is and I am.

 

[jpdaballa]

I personally want to switch to the evo because of the following things I don't believe palm will fix in the c40

Battery life
Hardware
Speed
enabling the gpu throughout the whole os not just games

I mean I still believe the pre could be a much better phone possibly the best released phone so far, but it doesn't look like palm has the fundings to make this phone go to it's potential yet.

 

[gstill4]

the pre sucks now. it lags and ever since the last update my phone has been every buggy. I'm so ready to play baseball with the pre and i would but im sellin it to a friend when i get my evo

 

[Duvi]

http://forum.androidcentral.com/htc...ting-evo-coming-pre-pixi.html?highlight=webos

 

[wormdood]

I will be getting EVO, but will still have my Pre on a second number....will be selling my Pixi.

 

[mikebeam]

I to think WebOs is a awesome operating system, but count me in and a EVO owner soon.

 

[xorg]

If Palm doesn't announce a phone with great specs before EVO, I'll probably leap to EVO from Pre. I prefer webOS over Android but could get used to Android I suppose.

Palm needs to get purchased (or license the OS). They need to announce new hardware every 6 months and need another form factor or two to keep up but they don't have the resources to pull that off.

 

[Paladin]

I am open minded though but I am just not familiar with Android enough yet to make a decision. This is really the first Android device to get my attention, I will say that I am getting excited for this as I was for the Pre. Got to love gadgets! ii

I am just unsure how the apps work, are their paid ones, do they have a central catalog etc...Or is it you just buy them from each developer as you go? How well does it multitask, can I stream audio in the background? How do notifications work on it? If I am in an application and receive a text message how does it "pop" up? Can applications also "pop" up notifications from the background?

How is the browser, email etc...
Does this Sense UI work like the iPhone/Pre with pinch and zooming? If I double click in the browser on a column will it auto zoom into it like the Pre does?

I hear the OS is different from device to device and that sounds bad to me. How does it affect a typical user anyway or it that basically nothing to worry about?

Do all apps work on ALL versions of Android? How do apps handle all the different screen sizes and resolutions etc... How do they handle the supported hardware of each, camera, keyboard etc... How are the games on it?

I was sitting in a restaurant when I typed the original post for this tethering over my Pre with Wi-Fi, can the EVO do that? Will it cost me extra or are there hacks like MyTether? Are there hacks for Android in general like Jailbreaking the iPhone and Homebrew on the Pre?

I am also really unsure I can deal with that virtual keyboard. I am unsure if the huge screen will be too big to carry it around though using it will be sweet I am sure.

So I have lots of questions I need to research. I am just now starting to research all of this. If anyone has a guide to Android for newbies, let me know ii

 

[Complex Pants]

I am open minded though but I am just not familiar with Android enough yet to make a decision. I will say though that I am getting excited for this as I was for the Pre. Got to love gadgets! ii

I am just unsure how the apps work, are their paid ones, do they have a central catalog etc...Or is it you just buy them from each developer as you go? How well does it multitask, how do notifications work on it, how is the browser, email etc... I
Does this Sense UI work like the iPhone/Pre with pinch and zooming? If I double click in the browser on a column will it auto zoom into it like the Pre does?

Android has paid and unpaid apps from a central source, the Android Market. You can browse the apps here: Find great Android apps and games - AppBrain

Notifications are very similar to WebOS. They are displayed in a dock at the top of the screen. When you want to view them you just drag your finger from the top of the dock down and a drawer with your notifications opens up. Unlike WebOS you can't clear them one at a time. However, you can clear all of them at once.

They have multiple browsers include Opera Mini 5 which looks very good. I haven't played with it yet. Gmail is a much better experience on Android, but is in a separate mailbox. In sense UI Exchange/IMAP work in a single mailbox, and you can only have one exchange account active at a time.

Sense UI has multitouch and has all the same browsing features that the Pre and iPhone have, with another one which alligns the zoomed in text so that it wraps at the right places so you don't have to keep scrolling side to side to read the message.

I hear the OS is different from device to device and that sounds bad to me. How does it affect a typical user anyway or it that basically nothing to worry about?

Do all apps work on ALL versions of Android? How do apps handle all the different screen sizes and resolutions etc... How do they handle the supported hardware of each, camera, keyboard etc... How are the games on it?

There are currently 3 versions of the android kernal running around, 1.5, 1.6 and 2.1 (assuming everyone has upgrade from 2.0 to 2.1). Most apps are designed to run on all versions. There are some apps (mostly games) that require a certain version to run. As it stands now, most devices that are running 1.5 or 1.6 are upgrading to 2.1 soon anyway. It is kind of like VZW still being on 1.4 while Sprint is on 1.4.1.1.

There are more 2d games on Android than on WebOS, but WebOS has more 3D games than Android does at the moment. That being said, I have talked to Gameloft and Glu Mobile customer service and both said they had plans to port their games over to Android as well. This makes sense since most of the high end devices have just started showing up (first one was the droid, followed by the N1 and Incredible). Most of these devices sport a 800x480 resolution so standardization is happening. Also it should be mentioned that Google has said they are planning on minimizing fractioning in future releases of Android. Not sure how exactly they are going to do this.

Keyboards are variable in Android. You have a few devices with a hardware keyboard, but most seem to have a software keyboard. In addition you can change which software keyboard you want to use so it suits you best.

I was sitting in a restaurant when I typed the original post for this tethering over my Pre with Wi-Fi, can the EVO do that? Will it cost me extra or are there hacks like MyTether? Are there hacks for Android in general like Jailbreaking the iPhone and Homebrew on the Pre?

Evo can tether 8 devices at once on 4G. It looks like it will cost an addition $10-20 a month to do it officially. However, once you get root access you can do it for free with Apps (for example: Barnacle Wifi Tether - Android app on AppBrain). Further more, if you are in a 4G area, 4G usage will not cost extra over a normal data plan, at least that is the current belief.

I am also really unsure I can deal with that virtual keyboard. I am unsure if the huge screen will be too big to carry it around though using it will be sweet I am sure.

So I have lots of questions I need to research. I am just now starting to research all of this. If anyone has a guide to Android for newbies, let me know ii

I went to a sprint store to play with a hero for a while and the virtual keyboard was not that bad. I had to adjust to it a bit, but the spell check and auto correction was really nice. Also remember that the Evo will have a giant virtual keyboard. People who have demoed it have said that is the best or just, just, behind the iPhone's keyboard.

As far as the size of the device goes, put and iPhone in your pocket. Save for a few millimeters in width and height, that is how big the Evo will feel. If you look at the iPhone pay attention too how much bezel there is above and below the screen. The Evo essentially gets rid of the bezel and replaces it with screen. I hope that helps.

 

[Complex Pants]

I forgot to address multitasking. Android does multitask, it just doesn't do it in as elegant a way as WebOS. The way it works is you long press on the home button and a window pops up that lets you choose between the last 6 apps you have used for you to switch to.

Here is a droid does ad that shows it: YouTube - Verizon Droid Apps All Comers SP

Edit: For some reason I can only find the spanish version, sry.

 

[yazman666]

I guess if u see the title of this post and u r a pre/pixi user of course u will get in here and write something that explains the stats up there ...well noo im not coming from a pre/pixi im currently with the forgottrn my touch 3g and t-mobile just waiting for the evo to make act of precence..

 

[Andrew Ruffolo]

I am open minded though but I am just not familiar with Android enough yet to make a decision. This is really the first Android device to get my attention, I will say that I am getting excited for this as I was for the Pre. Got to love gadgets! ii

I am just unsure how the apps work, are their paid ones, do they have a central catalog etc...Or is it you just buy them from each developer as you go? How well does it multitask, how do notifications work on it, how is the browser, email etc... I
Does this Sense UI work like the iPhone/Pre with pinch and zooming? If I double click in the browser on a column will it auto zoom into it like the Pre does?

I hear the OS is different from device to device and that sounds bad to me. How does it affect a typical user anyway or it that basically nothing to worry about?

Do all apps work on ALL versions of Android? How do apps handle all the different screen sizes and resolutions etc... How do they handle the supported hardware of each, camera, keyboard etc... How are the games on it?

I was sitting in a restaurant when I typed the original post for this tethering over my Pre with Wi-Fi, can the EVO do that? Will it cost me extra or are there hacks like MyTether? Are there hacks for Android in general like Jailbreaking the iPhone and Homebrew on the Pre?

I am also really unsure I can deal with that virtual keyboard. I am unsure if the huge screen will be too big to carry it around though using it will be sweet I am sure.

So I have lots of questions I need to research. I am just now starting to research all of this. If anyone has a guide to Android for newbies, let me know ii

1. There is a market much like the app store on Apple or WebOS, but you can also sidelaunch apps, just have to go into settings and click "Install unapproved apps" no hacking required. Its mandatory to update Sprint Apps anyway
2. Multitasking is similar and different. You never really quit a program, unless you end its process entirely, some apps have this, others don't, but eventually they will close in the background as the Operating System deems necessary. You can easily switch between apps by holding down the home button and you're most recent apps/process running will pop up. Also, there are many widgets available (and with 7 home screens you can put a lot of widgets) that eliminate the need for an app and can be switched back and forth much like the cards (double tap home on the hero gives you an exploded view of all 7 home screens)
3. Notifications are much like WebOS, but appear on the top non-obtrusively and you can drop down a menu to see a brief description of each one. Tap on them to open up the app they are associated with.
4. The HTC Sense browser is great and has Flash Lite which allows you to do online gaming (i.e. shockwave.com) however, I have yet to get Hulu to fully work, but it doesn't exactly have to do with flash lite, could be hardware limitation as I've gotten video to show up on my hero, we'll know more with the Incredible or Evo as they both will have Flash as well.
5. Pinch to zoom= YES. Hero/Eris were first Android phones to support this out the box and it was due to HTC Sense. You may also double tap, and pages render better than on the Pre as font sizes are adjusted to fit the viewing screen (pretty neat and hard to explain, try it out on a hero/eris or Evo when its available)
6. The one downside of having SenseUI over Vanilla is that it takes the manufacturer of the phone longer to update than Vanilla. Having said that, the Samsung Moment and Moto Droid both run Vanilla versions of Android and took them forever to update (Moment's still not out). Its more of an issue with the Cell phone providers than it is the Manufacturers holding updates back. Having said that, not all WebOS phones run the same firmware either. Nor do Iphones, nor Blackberry, nor WinMo. Its an issue with every type of Smartphone
7. Not all apps work on every version of Android due to API's not being utilized in every version. This is bad for 1.5 folk like I was (been running 2.1 for what seems like an eternity now), and not as much of an issue for people with 1.6 phones. Apps like Google Goggles, Google Nav, Google Earth are all apps that Can't run in 1.5 due to some specific software limitations in the OS. Having the newer OS is good as you won't be giving up as much (some apps only work in 1.5, too and not 2.1, but they are harder to come by). Games run fine on newer devices with a dedicated GPU, they can run on devices without them, but they don't look as nice. The Evo has a dedicated GPU.. meaning they will look sexy as hell on that 4.3" screen.
8. Great question: I tether using wifi on my Hero and I've done it on the Pre as well. You have to be "rooted" which is like jailbreaking for that specific app. However, some apps allow BT or USB (like PDAnet) that allows you to tether for free, without having root access. Obtaining root is different on each phone. You would need to wait for someone to find an exploit and then publicize it. This usually involves you needing the SDK installed on your computer. Unlike the Pre, you can actually use root access to Delete Sprint Apps you don't want (Nascar comes to mind) instead of just hiding it. Having root access also allows you to flash a recovery image specific to the phone, where you can install custom ROM's to either make the phone run smoother (haven't really seen much lag in the Incredible or Evo, but have on the N1), or to run a ROM without SenseUI all-together. There are also apps (like the wifi-tether) that require root access to run and are available in the app market. One I'm fond of is Ad-Free. It removes the admob banners on a lot of free apps, as well as blocks them from showing in the browser (making browsing even faster).
9. Virtual Keyboard on this baby will be like twice the size of the pre keyboard and it works in landscape for e-mails, which the pre can't do. I thought I would miss it as well, but I quickly got over it. Also, the screen is big, but it utilizes real estate very nicely. Its comparable to an Iphone in size, and not many people complain about that phone not being pocketable. Its also thinner than an iPhone.
10. We're here for your questions.

 

[Septro]

I hate to kick this dog some more..

I'm dumping the Pre for the EVO. I love WebOS and the seamless integration. Everything from unified mail boxes, notifications, the ease of managing contacts and multitasking are the best in the industry. I don't need to open a text app to text and a IM app to IM, i just do it based on contact. I don't need to open 3 diff email boxes - I just check one. Even the dedicated switch for turning on vibrate mode is pure win.

But Dam - the EVO 4G had me at Hello.

- 4G speed + wifi hotspot (i can get rid of my aircard)
- Front facing camera (video calls here we come)
- 4.3in screen (booya beeeyotches!)
- Android + SenseUI (my wife's Droid Eris is really winning me over)
- 720p video cap + 8mp Camera (Don't have to carry my P&S anymore)

This is what Palm should have delivered with WebOS last year.

So the Pre is like my high school crush.. It was fast and furious and I thought we'd last forever. The EVO 4G is the hot girl I met in college who does things I didn't know were possible .

 

[macd2002]

coming from pre to evo cant wait, tired of not having flash and the apps that android have are so much bigger then hp, I think HP needs to start waking up because after a while they wont have any market

 

[PapaNoHair#AC]

I just switched to the Evo from the Pre. I was with the Pre since the beginning. Love this Evo!! Do miss some of the WebOS features but overall it has been a good move.