How often should we reboot/restart our Incredible??

[bark8015]

I think you may be in the wrong forum entirely. Try here: www.crackberry.com.

But seriously, I've had mine since April 29, and I've only had to restart it once (twice if you count the OTA update). In the last two days, the camera has been locking up occasionally, so I will likely restart it later today, but the best app I've installed is Advanced Task Killer. It allows you to close apps that don't fully close when you back out of them. Particularly useful for closing streaming audio (iheartradio, Pandora, etc.)

After reading http://forum.androidcentral.com/dro...how-active-when-i-have-never-opened-them.html, I decided to remove ATK to see if it really was as good as it appeared to be.

It's been nearly a week and I have had fewer issues with the camera locking up, and fewer instances with my internet just closing for no obvious reason.

Your mileage may vary, but the Android OS does seem to do a much better job of resource management than trying to force things with a task killer app.

 

[herbmmm]

Just turn it off then back on to reboot!

 

[XXXdc5]

I never reboot my phone unless something is just not functioning correctly.Otherwise I've had my Droids(I've got multiple Android phones), running nonstop, weeks at a time.

That was pretty much my main curiosity. Thanks!

 

[wowpaw]

To the poster who said the best app they've installed was ATK, please uninstall it for the sake of your phone, your OS, and any future issues that you WILL have.

Task killers are NOT necessary and will cause you more problems than solutions.

 

[XXXdc5]

To the poster who said the best app they've installed was ATK, please uninstall it for the sake of your phone, your OS, and any future issues that you WILL have.

Task killers are NOT necessary and will cause you more problems than solutions.

if you let it auto kill then yeah. but the ability to see what apps are open and then close the ones you dont need is useful

 

[wowpaw]

if you let it auto kill then yeah. but the ability to see what apps are open and then close the ones you dont need is useful

The problem is people think that closing whatever is showing will only affect that killed app, which may or may not be correct. People tend to kill everything that they used before but aren't currently using. This can affect the phone's functionality and any apps that were previously connected to it. Just because an app is cached does not mean its running cpu cycles so it does not affect processing power/battery life much, if at all. Google devs have even came out and said directly that a task killer is not necessary, and that people like it for their own sake of mind (Placebo effect). Here is a simple read about why task killers are not needed: FAQ: Why You Shouldn’t Be Using a Task Killer with Android ? Geek For Me – Android CDMA Sprint Hero

If you would like a full explanation, I can also find the thread on Androidforums that has much more indepth details and alot of converts.

 

[sniffs]

If you let the OS close the app, you can pretty much guarantee it'll close the databases that the app is uses.

I've seen first hand, what killing a PID or application can do to a database. Talk about a hosed database? Android is no different.

Let the OS manage apps/open databases and you wont have problems.

 

[Qazme]

If you let the OS close the app, you can pretty much guarantee it'll close the databases that the app is uses.

I've seen first hand, what killing a PID or application can do to a database. Talk about a hosed database? Android is no different.

Let the OS manage apps/open databases and you wont have problems.

I think running databases and running Android phones are vastly different. However you point is still valid. I just let Android handle it's business and haven't had a problem yet.

 

[XXXdc5]

The problem is people think that closing whatever is showing will only affect that killed app, which may or may not be correct. People tend to kill everything that they used before but aren't currently using. This can affect the phone's functionality and any apps that were previously connected to it. Just because an app is cached does not mean its running cpu cycles so it does not affect processing power/battery life much, if at all. Google devs have even came out and said directly that a task killer is not necessary, and that people like it for their own sake of mind (Placebo effect). Here is a simple read about why task killers are not needed: FAQ: Why You Shouldn?t Be Using a Task Killer with Android ? Geek For Me ? Android CDMA Sprint Hero

If you would like a full explanation, I can also find the thread on Androidforums that has much more indepth details and alot of converts.

If you let the OS close the app, you can pretty much guarantee it'll close the databases that the app is uses.

I've seen first hand, what killing a PID or application can do to a database. Talk about a hosed database? Android is no different.

Let the OS manage apps/open databases and you wont have problems.

good information guy i did not know to what extent the effects of ATK reached but i appreciate the feedback. im going to delete it, restart my phone, and see how it goes. i understand what youre saying tho, in that "killing" the app open is often overkill and not needed.

*thumbsup*

 

[Execute]

I reboot mine every morning as well. Keeps it running smooth and fast

 

[wowpaw]

good information guy i did not know to what extent the effects of ATK reached but i appreciate the feedback. im going to delete it, restart my phone, and see how it goes. i understand what youre saying tho, in that "killing" the app open is often overkill and not needed.

*thumbsup*

Definitely. See how it goes and if you don't notice much of a difference, I'd recommend not reinstalling. If you REALLY feel like its becoming very sluggish and seems like something is taking up all the cpu (even after a simple restart), then reinstall.

 

[XXXdc5]

Definitely. See how it goes and if you don't notice much of a difference, I'd recommend not reinstalling. If you REALLY feel like its becoming very sluggish and seems like something is taking up all the cpu (even after a simple restart), then reinstall.

ive never really seen my device get sluggish i was using it mainly as a tool to manage what was open but if it controls things like has been described then thats not what i want. im thinking with blackberry mentality where if its open its slowing me down and thats what i need to get away from. Kuz blackberry OS doesnt manage apps well at allllll

 

[wowpaw]

ive never really seen my device get sluggish i was using it mainly as a tool to manage what was open but if it controls things like has been described then thats not what i want. im thinking with blackberry mentality where if its open its slowing me down and thats what i need to get away from. Kuz blackberry OS doesnt manage apps well at allllll

Lol yeah thats definitely NOT the case with Android. Alot of WinMo users feel the exact same way as you. Android is able to cached apps which take very little power (both in terms of battery and processor), so you're fine even if they're opened and not running syncs.

I would say instead of a task killer, get a task manager. That way, you don't really have the added urge of killing apps, but can still monitor what is opened and the cpu load it is using.

 

[Execute]

Even knowing full and well how Android handles apps and memory, I can't help sometimes getting the "Left the coffemaker on after you leave your house" feeling when I see so many apps in the cache. I still resist killing them tho ;p

And I like System Panel.(Had to get to kill htc calendar so my phone would sleep)

 

[RogerThat99]

Yes you can power off or reboot. To reboot, power off the phone, then press and hold the Joystick while powering the phone back on. It will take you to a white screen with several options. Use the volume toggle to navigate to "reboot", then hit the power button again. I am not sure what the technical difference is, but it says it is a reboot. I got this from HTC tech support.

 

[XXXdc5]

Lol yeah thats definitely NOT the case with Android. Alot of WinMo users feel the exact same way as you. Android is able to cached apps which take very little power (both in terms of battery and processor), so you're fine even if they're opened and not running syncs.

I would say instead of a task killer, get a task manager. That way, you don't really have the added urge of killing apps, but can still monitor what is opened and the cpu load it is using.

What does task manager do? Is it just a status app to check stuff or can u terminate unneeded stuff? Just curious, its not that big a deal to me if its been shown that its not necessary haha.

 

[sniffs]

I think running databases and running Android phones are vastly different. However you point is still valid. I just let Android handle it's business and haven't had a problem yet.

When you have an open application that makes database calls(like a majority of Android apps), you are opening the DB and/or writing to it.

All OS' do this, Windows, Linux(what Android is based off of), OSX.. now I dont know "IF" Android can cause a corrupted DB, but I dont see why it couldnt.

 

[XXXdc5]

Just an update. After almost a week of having deleted my task killer I have only had maybe one force close as opposed to before I would have an average of 5 a day on different apps. Take it as you will.

 

[doctorg23]

And I like System Panel.(Had to get to kill htc calendar so my phone would sleep)

So is it confirmed that the Calendar app is the issue? I "rebooted" my phone last night, then plugged it in to charge while it was on. I woke up this morning and my Up & Awake times were identical....Not exactly sure what was running? This morning with the phone off the charger, the Up time is starting to outpace the Awake time...

Thoughts?

 

[bark8015]

So is it confirmed that the Calendar app is the issue? I "rebooted" my phone last night, then plugged it in to charge while it was on. I woke up this morning and my Up & Awake times were identical....Not exactly sure what was running? This morning with the phone off the charger, the Up time is starting to outpace the Awake time...

Thoughts?

It's probably been posted in this thread already, but make sure the following is unchecked:

Settings > Applications > Development > Stay awake

Then restart using the power button on the top.

I set this on my Inc to see how it would affect things. After about 3 days, I noticed my battery life was getting very poor (5-6 hours max if I didn't have a chance to charge it throughout the day). On day 2 of noticing my battery life issues, I also noticed that it wasn't sleeping or turning off the screen.

I turned this setting off, and it still didn't sleep. Rebooted and all is perfect again. This past Sunday I had GPS, WiFi and Bluetooth all on all day, and my battery went from 100% at 6AM to 34% at 9PM. Granted, weekends are low use for me and my Inc, but I normally hit 30% by 4PM on workdays.