How's 5.0.2 running?

[ETPhoneHomeT]

Not to try to push you to update at this point, but how is the situation with the update for 5.0.3 or 5.1 going to be any different? Every time an update comes out, there's always a chance of issues. Even when most all have no issues, there are still some that do.

Again not saying you should update, but just trying to understand how there will be any less risk in any future updates.

Here's one of many blogs on the memory leak issue: Fix for Lollipop's massive memory leak coming soon-ish

I have experienced this memory leak bug firsthand on my N7 2012. 5.0 made my 2012 virtually unusable and 5.0.2 made it only slightly better, but it still lags and freezes frequently. That drove me to purchase a N7 2013 which Groupon was selling at a great price. Lollipop was a total OS upgrade from KitKat, not just a step upgrade or bug fix release. I think the fact that Lollipop has been so slow to roll out not only to Nexus devices but to other OEM's as well is a pretty good indication that there are some potentially serious problems with the releases so far. This is the first time ever that I've held off from taking an update as soon as it was offered to me...I just don't have a good feeling with this one.

Certainly there will always be potential for bugs in any update but my main concern with Lollipop releases thus far is that it contains a known memory leak issue that Google will supposedly fix in the next update after 5.0.2. At that time, I think my chances of getting a stable build will improve significantly. Until then, KitKat is running buttery smooth on my 2013 N7. Besides, although Lollipop has nice animations and looks nice, the added features aren't that important to me and some things I actually like better on KitKat.

 

[Robisan]

I have VZW 5.0 on my '14 Moto X, and other than an occasional lag in home screen rendering (Nova launcher) it's smooth and problem free. I did a fresh upgrade/factory reset right out of the box (with a return/refund window if there were problems) before setup, so in that case upgrade to 5.0 made sense.

My '13 N7 runs perfectly on 4.4.4, everything set up exactly as I want it. Having used 5.0 on the Moto X I honestly don't see any features or utilities that I'm missing from 4.4.4. Trusted Places is nice, but my N7 doesn't go everywhere like my phone so I can make do with a lock screen toggle at home. Likewise, Active Display isn't a must have on a tablet - it's a different device used for different purposes than a phone and has much better battery life. Material Design? Meh. For a so-called "major" OS update there's actually not that much functionality difference. On my N7 I'll stick with 4.4.4 until 5.x delivers a new, must have utility or function.

tl:dr There's no feature/utility in 5.0.2 worth risking my perfectly running 4.4.4 N7.

 

[vzwuser76]

Here's one of many blogs on the memory leak issue: Fix for Lollipop's massive memory leak coming soon-ish

I have experienced this memory leak bug firsthand on my N7 2012. 5.0 made my 2012 virtually unusable and 5.0.2 made it only slightly better, but it still lags and freezes frequently. That drove me to purchase a N7 2013 which Groupon was selling at a great price. Lollipop was a total OS upgrade from KitKat, not just a step upgrade or bug fix release. I think the fact that Lollipop has been so slow to roll out not only to Nexus devices but to other OEM's as well is a pretty good indication that there are some potentially serious problems with the releases so far. This is the first time ever that I've held off from taking an update as soon as it was offered to me...I just don't have a good feeling with this one.

Certainly there will always be potential for bugs in any update but my main concern with Lollipop releases thus far is that it contains a known memory leak issue that Google will supposedly fix in the next update after 5.0.2. At that time, I think my chances of getting a stable build will improve significantly. Until then, KitKat is running buttery smooth on my 2013 N7. Besides, although Lollipop has nice animations and looks nice, the added features aren't that important to me and some things I actually like better on KitKat.

Android 5.0.2 is a revision, just like 5.0.1 was and 5.0.3 will be. So there's just as much chance of having an issue on 5.0.3 as in the previous two revs. The only reason they don't seem like revisions is many didn't get to update to 5.0 or 5.0.1 because they got pulled before they went out to everyone, so many are going from 4.4.4 to 5.0.2. But either way they're on their third version (5.0, 5.0.1, 5.0.2) of Lollipop and their second revision. Who's to say that the next version won't have worse bugs than this one?

And also, are we sure that this version of 5.0.2 for the Nexus 7 2013 doesn't already have that fix? That bug was found before the first of the year, so why would they do an update 3 weeks later without that fix? Seems kinda ridiculous not to include it when they already have the fix. I had some app closes when I was on 5.0.1, but I haven't seen a single one on 5.0.2.

 

[ETPhoneHomeT]

Android 5.0.2 is a revision, just like 5.0.1 was and 5.0.3 will be. So there's just as much chance of having an issue on 5.0.3 as in the previous two revs. The only reason they don't seem like revisions is many didn't get to update to 5.0 or 5.0.1 because they got pulled before they went out to everyone, so many are going from 4.4.4 to 5.0.2. But either way they're on their third version (5.0, 5.0.1, 5.0.2) of Lollipop and their second revision. Who's to say that the next version won't have worse bugs than this one?

And also, are we sure that this version of 5.0.2 for the Nexus 7 2013 doesn't already have that fix? That bug was found before the first of the year, so why would they do an update 3 weeks later without that fix? Seems kinda ridiculous not to include it when they already have the fix. I had some app closes when I was on 5.0.1, but I haven't seen a single one on 5.0.2.

Everything that I've read said that memory leak issue would not be fixed until 5.0.3 or 5.1. I assume 5.0.2 on a Nexus 7 2012 would be basically the same as 5.0.2 on a Nexus 7 2013. 5.0.2 on my 2012 still freezes frequently (even after doing 2 factory data resets) and this is the main reason I'm reluctant to update my 2013 N7 for the time being.

One of the differences in the 2012 and 2013 models is that the 2012 has only 1GB RAM while the 2013 has 2GB. So, that could mean that 5.0.2 will run better on a 2013 than a 2012 N7. My wife uses a N10 that also has 2GB RAM and I did install 5.0.2 on that tablet and it has worked quite well.

Bottom line is that I'm perfectly happy with KitKat 4.4.4 on my 2013 N7 for now.

 

[fetterjohn]

The new UI sucks...other than that...everything seems ok.

 

[vzwuser76]

Everything that I've read said that memory leak issue would not be fixed until 5.0.3 or 5.1. I assume 5.0.2 on a Nexus 7 2012 would be basically the same as 5.0.2 on a Nexus 7 2013. 5.0.2 on my 2012 still freezes frequently (even after doing 2 factory data resets) and this is the main reason I'm reluctant to update my 2013 N7 for the time being.

One of the differences in the 2012 and 2013 models is that the 2012 has only 1GB RAM while the 2013 has 2GB. So, that could mean that 5.0.2 will run better on a 2013 than a 2012 N7. My wife uses a N10 that also has 2GB RAM and I did install 5.0.2 on that tablet and it has worked quite well.

Bottom line is that I'm perfectly happy with KitKat 4.4.4 on my 2013 N7 for now.

The reason I brought up that they may have fixed the memory leak issue in the 5.0.2 OTA for the 2013 Nexus 7 is that the issue didn't come to light until after 5.0.2 for the 2012 N7 came out. And there was quite a bit of time between those two updates. I just think it would've been stupid to push another OTA knowing full well it's still got bugs in it.

On my Droid Maxx last year, we ended up skipping almost 3 revs because after they pushed them to other devices they found a new issue with each one, so they never pushed it to the Droid Maxx/Ultra/Mini. We went from like 4.0 to 4.4.4. So I can't see why they'd push one knowing the issue they have here.

 

[Lupelamenta]

I think I've solved an annoying network connectivity issue that appeared as soon as the OTA upgrade to Lollipop. No matter what I did, my network went offline several times a day. My Nexus went offline and would give me "authentication" or "saved" messages. The only way the Nexus, wireless Roku and Netflix would not re-connect was if i rebooted my modem and router; and it would not last more than minutes or a couple of hours, if I was lucky.

Then , as luck would have it, I spent a couple of days away from home (using another network) and all the annoying network dropouts I'd been experiencing with Lollipop disappeared. My nexus stayed online for 48 hours straight. Not one dropout. This, after days of clearing caches, turning on-off, changing channels, rebooting modem and router et.al.

It wasn't lollipop but my router, my very old: Linksys WRT54G.

Determined to invest in a new one, I spent several hours copying its settings page-by-page and came across QoS (Quality of Service).

What was that? I wondered. A bit of research on what it does and I thought: "can't hurt." So I enabled wired upstream bandwidth (auto) and wireless WMM support (left "no acknowledgement" disabled).

That was 24 hours ago. Since then not one dropout. Everything's working as it should. Nexus is online, wireless roku which was limping along, buffering on some channels every few minutes, is streaming like a champ.

 

[Eaton Scrapple]

And I'm having BLUETOOTH problems. A rock steady connection under 5.0.1 to a bluetooth FM clock radio suddenly goes awry. I think it has something to do with the new 'smart lock' BS. If the Nexus (wifi 2013) is connected locally to some trusted device, it doesn't make you enter the PIN to unlock. Feh. Don't work that way. Took multiple restarts of the clock radio to get this to stick connected. Boo.

 

[scrondar]

Honestly, I can't see any good reason to move off KitKat on my N7 2013; now, if 5.02 became available for my SG4, I'd probably go for it, as I use my phone for a lot more than I do my tablet, and the addition of RAW support for the camera would be great. Alas, I doubt AT&T will move a phone that "old' up. So, I reckon I'll stay where I am for now. One thing has become plain to me-my next phone will be a Google device.

 

[projecto]

I received notice that 5.0.2 was available for my Nexus 9. I selected "download" and soon got an error message. Just the Google man with Error. It never loaded, my settings still shows 5.0.1, and when I hit check for updates", it says I am up to date. So, I guess that's that. What a mess.