HTC 10 Reviews

[Habiib]

Here are some comments from the CNET review. All seem to indicate exactly what I said would happen when CNET reviewed the HTC 10.

-CNET bias again. *I usually rely on user reviews in Amazon and GSMArena. *And of course, going to physical stores and handling the demo unit. *However, I do agree that HTC cameras generally sucks.



-I will agree with most of the other comments that this is a very biased review.*


The discrepancy in battery life is disconcerting considering the 10 and S7 have identical capacities. Have you considered comparing thermal throttling and performance?*


Other sites have tested this and found that Samsung typically has aggressive throttling on it's phones, which gives the benefit of increased runtime but at some cost to responsiveness and sustained performance.*

It would be great to see this tested, as I currently own a Note 4 and am considering a different brand for my next device. I don't really like TouchWiz and how inefficient it is, so if the HTC has better responsiveness I may consider it.


-I don't trust a word that is coming out of this lady's mouth. I'll wait for MKBHD's review to come out on YouTube before I make any assumptions.



-I have being reading this site for a long time and I never felt the urge to post a comment until now, this is one of the most unprofessional and biased reviews I have ever read in my life, Cnet if you want to keep your dignity pull this review and have somebody do a professional one or I will not be able to take your site *seriously anymore.*


-This critic, "journalist" should be ashamed of her not so hidden agenda. A disgrace as others have pointed out.

-I can't comment on the phone because I haven't had time with it but this review reads like an assassination attempt at HTC. It was bullyish, prideful and has an overall refusal to praise the phone in any way without a caveat following it that immediately downplays their accomplishments. Taking brand and phone aside, this review carries an agenda that reveals the obvious bias the reviewer has. I am not interested in the reason why the author brazenly jabs at this phone but it's clear that from the beginning, the author wanted this phone to fail. This review has a bias that no decent journalist can deny.



-Even the Apple fanboy Engadget talks about how good HTC 10 is. This, CNET's review, is not a review. It is basically a character assassination. It's not just biased, but its really badly written. Something you don't expect from a seemingly professional website like CNET.

The failure of this review, however, echoes through most of articles on HTC phones on this website. Often features HTC has are either downplayed or outright ignored. An earlier version of this article even had the audacity to call it just an other flagship Android phone. What the hell do you expect it to be? A car?*

HTC phones have been one of the most innovative phones out there. They think outside the box. UltraPixel technology, front facing speaker, wide angle front camera with the same focus technology of the one in the back, etc. Not innovation, but the metal build, giving the phone an actual premium feel and look should be a major deal when you pay a similar amount for any flagship one of any brand.*

Is it surprising that there is a hidden line at the top saying "HTC 10 brings the noise, but it's not a Galaxy killer"? I could only read it accidentally when I double clicked and all the texts were*highlighted*making it visible over a white plane. This kinda show who paid for this review... I will no longer trust any review from CNET.

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[I Can Be Your Hero]

I wholeheartedly disagree with that sentiment. HTC could sell the 10 for $250 unlocked and it would still fall flat on its face against the likes of Samsung. I think it's impossible for an HTC device to put pressure on Samsung anymore (if smartphone sales is the focus). I'm convinced that the only way the HTC 10 could put up admirable sales numbers is if a Samsung or Apple logo is stamped on it.

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That's my take. They're still not going to sell a whole lot of these phones even if they charged $300 for it, so why bother taking the loss with charging it a bit less?

Whatever sales they do make will be at full price, which benefits them, and hopefully it sells more than the M9 did.

 

[lostsoul2]

HTC knocked $100 off but samsung gave away a vr unit or s2 watch + if you get the vr you get $150 in games..Its not just CNET. most of the reviews so far state the same.

I have the s7 edge now but with the easy cracked screen it put a bad taste in my mouth. I'm worried about the edge shelf life. HTC was the one that pulled me away from the iphone fan boy. My Vivid was great. Now the only thing left to pull me away is the note 6. If they make that edge I will pull my hair out =-/

 

[Love Divine]

They were always going to be "favorable". That was never in doubt. However the reviews I've seen are less than indicative of a home run. So-so battery life, a good but not as good as Galaxy display, much improved camera but not class leading, etc. These same things have been said of every HTC since the M7.

Just a point of distinction, but as someone who owned both a GS4 and M7 - this is just not true. The ONLY area the S4 won in was camera. The M7 had a better screen (MUCH brighter, and AMOLED had not caught up in color accuracy at that time), boomsound speakers, leagues better build quality, materials and design (the S4 creaked when I held it). It was also much snappier, had a much more cohesive UI, got updates more quickly, and had battery life that was at the least just as good as the S4.

Let's not rewrite history. The M7 was fantastic. Samsung has just caught up in build quality and design, AMOLED has exceeded LCD as a technology, they've continued the camera dominance, and have cleaned up (although not perfected) Touchwiz. The M7 (and M8) were great, but unfortunately, given the state of high-end smartphones today, it's nigh-impossible to truly outshine your competitors everywhere. It's going to be tough for them to make up ground.

 

[Habiib]

Its not just CNET. most of the reviews so far state the same.

I think it is just CNET. The condescending tone, generous portions of sarcasm and blatant personal bias is to be found nowhere in any of the reviews for the HTC 10. Most of the reviews were filled with praise and were objective in identifying areas that they felt could improve, CNET's review...not so much. If everyone said the same thing (as CNET), then the backlash seen in the CNET article would be the same elsewhere.

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[bhatech]

BTW ... We're hard at work on ours. Kinda figured with as good as our preview was on Tuesday, there was no sense in rushing just to meet a review embargo two days later. Plus we just got an OTA Wednesday morning for a few little things, and AirPlay wasn't even active until this morning.

tl;dr: Want it fast? Or want it right?

Want it fast and right

 

[cnotes2019]

BTW ... We're hard at work on ours. Kinda figured with as good as our preview was on Tuesday, there was no sense in rushing just to meet a review embargo two days later. Plus we just got an OTA Wednesday morning for a few little things, and AirPlay wasn't even active until this morning.

tl;dr: Want it fast? Or want it right?

No I want you to lie and say it's the greatest camera, audio, battery, screen on any phone so I can buy it tomorrow please!!!

 

[Mdbills484]

Just a point of distinction, but as someone who owned both a GS4 and M7 - this is just not true. The ONLY area the S4 won in was camera. The M7 had a better screen (MUCH brighter, and AMOLED had not caught up in color accuracy at that time), boomsound speakers, leagues better build quality, materials and design (the S4 creaked when I held it). It was also much snappier, had a much more cohesive UI, got updates more quickly, and had battery life that was at the least just as good as the S4.

Let's not rewrite history. The M7 was fantastic. Samsung has just caught up in build quality and design, AMOLED has exceeded LCD as a technology, they've continued the camera dominance, and have cleaned up (although not perfected) Touchwiz. The M7 (and M8) were great, but unfortunately, given the state of high-end smartphones today, it's nigh-impossible to truly outshine your competitors everywhere. It's going to be tough for them to make up ground.

Respectfully, I think you have confused "build quality" with "built materials". Without question, the M7 used premium materialsthat gave the impression of quality. HOWEVER, I had 3 M7's and all 3 had the purple camera tint and became utterly worthless after a few months. That is LOUSY build quality. I eschewed further generations of HTC's based on their horrible track record with the M7 and I am hopeful the 10 will be better built. By contrast, earlier Samsung phones like the S3 and S4 though made out of plastic, they survived falls better and I never had quality issues.

 

[isdaako]

Don't like the verge review..

Agree. Agree a lot!

 

[JBeef]

Respectfully, I think you have confused "build quality" with "built materials". Without question, the M7 used premium materialsthat gave the impression of quality. HOWEVER, I had 3 M7's and all 3 had the purple camera tint and became utterly worthless after a few months. That is LOUSY build quality. I eschewed further generations of HTC's based on their horrible track record with the M7 and I am hopeful the 10 will be better built. By contrast, earlier Samsung phones like the S3 and S4 though made out of plastic, they survived falls better and I never had quality issues.

So true. I loved my M7 until I got the purple camera of doom and then it became worthless. Also my power button was almost entirely flush to the unit to the point where it was impossible to press and I had to download an app to wake up the screen using the proximity sensor. I swore then I'd never buy HTC again. The HTC 10 ALMOST had me ready to change my mind. But it sounds like (apart from audio) other phones at this price point are better.

 

[KennyJohnson]

HTC knocked $100 off but samsung gave away a vr unit or s2 watch + if you get the vr you get $150 in games..Its not just CNET. most of the reviews so far state the same.

I have the s7 edge now but with the easy cracked screen it put a bad taste in my mouth. I'm worried about the edge shelf life. HTC was the one that pulled me away from the iphone fan boy. My Vivid was great. Now the only thing left to pull me away is the note 6. If they make that edge I will pull my hair out =-/

Too many reviewers and so-called smart phone experts also think they are business analysts or CPAs, when they are not. I really don't care what some blogger thinks the market should look like because most of the bloggers/phone "experts" know very little about financial analysis. So when The Verge or CNet start on this track, what they are really saying is: we don't see a need for HTC to exist because Samsung and Apple already do this stuff and the HTC product is only just as good as those phones. The mid range marketplace has MORE competition than the high end market. That isn't an opinion that's a statement of fact. But, these knuckle heads wouldn't have been so daft if this was a $400 phone because it's "mid range" which shows how little they know. What they should stick to is how does the phone feel, how does it work, and what is the outcome of those things.

When it comes to financial analysis most of these 20 and 30 something bloggers are all hat and no cattle.

 

[anon(604250)]

I take reviews of anything with a grain of salt. The average reviewer will reveal their biases clearly enough by the tone they take, and some don't even bother to hide them at all. Once you pick up on that, you can weigh whether they are managing to stay objective or letting confirmation bias write the review for them.

Only I know what I like, what I don't, what I require, and what I can live with. From everything I've seen so far - reviews, spec sheets, comparisons, etc. - the HTC 10 will be a good fit for me.

 

[bhatech]

Agree ^ ... 90% of the reviews are super favorable and looks like they love the device. Definitely not the best in most things but it's close to best and has no major flaws unlike some phones including S7 series with software. Looks like a smartphone which does well in all areas and the software is breath of fresh air in terms of skinning. LG and Samsung should learn a lesson or two from HTC.

 

[ombadboy]

I owned the S6E and sold it 5 months in mainly due to the fact that Touchwiz showed it's true face; became laggy as hell. In addition, battery life was not great either and trying to get a Custom ROM/root on an Exynos phone while keeping KNOX in tact for Android/Samsung Pay (and warranty as a matter of fact, but let's not get into that).. good luck.

Having said that, I told myself I'd never go back to Samsung again and really wanted the HTC 10 to be my next phone. Putting the pros and cons of the two together (from the reviews), however, make it a very hard choice choosing the HTC 10 over the S7.

 

[Ry]

I take reviews of anything with a grain of salt. The average reviewer will reveal their biases clearly enough by the tone they take, and some don't even bother to hide them at all. Once you pick up on that, you can weigh whether they are managing to stay objective or letting confirmation bias write the review for them.

Only I know what I like, what I don't, what I require, and what I can live with. From everything I've seen so far - reviews, spec sheets, comparisons, etc. - the HTC 10 will be a good fit for me.

If reviewers didn't inject their own biases into their reviews, we'd just be reading a spec sheet.

 

[RadiantDuck]

HTC knocked $100 off but samsung gave away a vr unit or s2 watch + if you get the vr you get $150 in games..Its not just CNET. most of the reviews so far state the same.

I have the s7 edge now but with the easy cracked screen it put a bad taste in my mouth. I'm worried about the edge shelf life. HTC was the one that pulled me away from the iphone fan boy. My Vivid was great. Now the only thing left to pull me away is the note 6. If they make that edge I will pull my hair out =-/

I was going to be going for the edge but all the easy cracked/phantom cracked screens have put me off. I don't want a phone I have to place gently and reverently on a thick satin pillow every time in order to prevent damage. So my choice at the moment seems to be the regular s7 (seems more robust than the edge so far, but still worried about all the glass) and the htc 10. At least with the metal back it should be a bit more robust!

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[markymark]

If reviewers didn't inject their own biases into their reviews, we'd just be reading a spec sheet.

Um, no. Reviewers should give an honest and unbiased review of the product. Bias indicates a predetermined favoritism toward a certain brand or prejudice against a certain brand. Completely different from an honest review. Sites like CNET and so forth make the bulk of their money from advertising. Samsung is a huge advertiser. They have already been caught cheating on benchmark tests and paying CNET to re-publish favorable reviews. The credibility of many of these reviews is questionable at best.

 

[Ry]

Um, no. Reviewers should give an honest and unbiased review of the product. Bias indicates a predetermined favoritism toward a certain brand or prejudice against a certain brand. Completely different from an honest review. Sites like CNET and so forth make the bulk of their money from advertising. Samsung is a huge advertiser. They have already been caught cheating on benchmark tests and paying CNET to re-publish favorable reviews. The credibility of many of these reviews is questionable at best.

It's funny because the "bias" conversation starts when these reviewers have a differing opinion than you.

 

[Ry]

Agree ^ ... 90% of the reviews are super favorable and looks like they love the device. Definitely not the best in most things but it's close to best and has no major flaws unlike some phones including S7 series with software. Looks like a smartphone which does well in all areas and the software is breath of fresh air in terms of skinning. LG and Samsung should learn a lesson or two from HTC.

If there was no bias, should it be 100% super favorable?

This whole, "they don't like it" or "they're not saying it's perfect like others" so they must be "biased" mentality is quite silly to me.

 

[metz65]

It's highly amusing that everyone clamors for reviews but the only reliable sites are those that echo personal sentiment. Any site that doesn't is unreliable and has questionable integrity. We may need to create a safe place so people aren't scarred for life from different views.