HTC One M10 design leaked in photo

I care about the build quality more than the actual look of the phone...mines going in a flip case anyway 😁

Build quality is important look at the LG G5 forums and reviews, HTC have always had a stellar rep for build quality so that should be good. Sense software is one of the best from the big manufacturers and also seems to be why my M8 always had great battery life. Only problem they had was camera... if they can take on Samsung in that department then it's going to be a good year for HTC...
 
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Even boomsound speakers suck for music listening compared to a good pair of headphones. They may sound good compared to other phones, but you can only do so much with such a tiny speaker and amp. If you're serious about music, no phone has good speakers. If you think htc's boomsound speakers are good for music, you don't know what real music sounds like.

As for the design, I mean really, all this gnashing of teeth over something that looks...... pretty much like every other high-end phone made today. From more than a few feet away, all Android phones look pretty much the same, especially when you stuff them in a case, like most people seem to. A black slab with rounded corners in front, a black or not black back with a few curves and a camera lens (and maybe some ugly plastic bands), and a metallic band around the edge. Yawn.

The only phones that really stand out in appearance do so because they're ugly. The 6P and G5 come to mind.

98% of the people on the planet can't tell an htc from a Samsung from an LG from an.....
 
Right, and the Nexus and Priv are day 1, every month on security, though the priv doesn't have MM other than a beta offer. Does the A9 have the April patch? More importantly, does the M9? I'm not talking down HTC on this, I'm saying it's an area of opportunity that needs work. 9 days is good but they can do better. And there's nothing stopping them from doing so.

I think you're being hyper critical at this point and going out of your way to look for reasons to bash HTC. They have plenty of problems, we all know what they are, but updates aren't one of em.

Does it really matter if they're only a couple weeks behind Nexus devices? Ask Samsung owners, or most others if they'd trade places with HTC in that department.
 
I think you're being hyper critical at this point and going out of your way to look for reasons to bash HTC. They have plenty of problems, we all know what they are, but updates aren't one of em.

Does it really matter if they're only a couple weeks behind Nexus devices? Ask Samsung owners, or most others if they'd trade places with HTC in that department.
I'm looking for consistently not missing updates. The commitment is important, not so much the length of time. There's literally no reason every OEM can't release security updates the same day as the Nexus devices - they just have to make it a priority. But it's not just about security updates, the major version updates are important too. Launching with the newest version is good and an obvious move, but how long will the devices be update and how long after the release of N will it be for it to be rolled out to the 10, M9 and M8?

This isn't about tearing something down, it's about justifying one device over another. If I want a better physical design (not aesthetically, but usability) (also, obviously IMO), then I'm going to get a different device. If I want better software, I'm obviously getting a different device. If I want more up to date and more secure devices, that's not this. If I want the best screen, battery life, camera, etc, etc... right now all of the priority categories are being won by other devices. So one thing the G5 is teaching us is that your components don't mean anything if all they are is ringing spec sheet bells. Execution and being worth more than the sum of your parts is what matters. The M7 had that and it had differentiation and it made a lot of fans.

So far what I'm seeing on the M10 is a lack of attention to intention and what I need to hear from them is how they're fixing the mistakes of the last couple of years, why they're choosing to sabotage the physical design (in favor of what) and details of their plan to commit to timely updates to this phone, the last two generations, etc. Because as of today, the only two players in 2016 so far are Nexus and Samsung. HTC needs to prove something, we have no obligation to give them the benefit of the doubt. Marketing can't fix their trail of blunders. It's time to put up or shut up. I'm not going to assume they wanted to do the right thing and failed or that they don't know why these decisions matter. This is their hail mary and if they don't have a strategy, then it doesn't matter if it lands or flies low. So criticism is the default state until they prove it wrong. And I hope they do, but they've got two years of history to undo and it'll take more than two years to prove they've changed.
 
Seems carrier radio might eliminate part of the market? Canadian article laments certain carriers not carrying HTC but not sure why or what radio (CDMA or whatever) they use.

If Verizon carries it and in red...it will be hard to deny but I can't find anything that is a confirm/deny of which networks will be supported.

No verizon in pre order (not that Verizon ever does anything helpful for customer in phone launches)

Buy HTC 10 | HTC United States
 
Seems carrier radio might eliminate part of the market? Canadian article laments certain carriers not carrying HTC but not sure why or what radio (CDMA or whatever) they use.

If Verizon carries it and in red...it will be hard to deny but I can't find anything that is a confirm/deny of which networks will be supported.

No verizon in pre order (not that Verizon ever does anything helpful for customer in phone launches)

Buy HTC 10 | HTC United States

I spoke too soon earlier. Here comes the sad face.

HTC 10 specs, Canadian pricing and availability | MobileSyrup.com

$1,000 unlocked in Canada and exclusive to one carrier Bell who I will never switch too in a hundred years. Sigh. That's an awful lot of money HTC.
 
Just preordered unlocked silver with black front. Can't wait!

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The HTC M8 can do GSM or CDMA. I don't think this will be an issue with the 10 because it will be able to run on any network. They would not create a phone that cannot run on a CDMA network. All Sprint phones can roam on the Verizon network and Verizon phones can roam on the Sprint network. A CDMA network is a CDMA network, its not dependent on the actual radio inside. Verizon and Sprint own different spectrums for frequencies. The only difference is Sprint has moved to Sprint Spark now.

I have traveled abroad and used my Sprint CDMA phone in Korea for calling purposes. I just told Sprint to activate international calling and I had no issues. Korea uses CDMA networks. You can do the same thing with a Verizon phone in Korea.

It is well known that even the poorest countries use GSM. Its the cheapest cell phone network. Countries with large bank accounts like the US, Japan, and Korea can afford to have CDMA. A CDMA network vastly supersedes a GSM network in every department. Hence Verizon is the #1 carrier for a reason.

No offense but the M8 isn't the 10. I am looking for actual specs not a hunch or assumption. We all know Verizon is slow as *ahem* to release anything new but I find it very curious Sprint isn't shown as a preorder option.
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWwRKcUxaU4

This doesn't have a TON of info, not a review, but shows stuff off a bit. I am hugely hopeful that the camera here rocks some socks. And I'm SUPER happy to see they included adoptable storage and slimmed Sense down. So far my only "complaints" are the navigation buttons, placement of the FPS and turning the speaker downward. Included headphones is interesting, a lot of OEM's don't do that at all anymore. And that new case looks way better than DOT.