Initial Impressions of the HTC 10

[Ry]

Re: The HTC 10 is official - Initial impressions

I wish it was lighter and less wide. the s7 is 69.5 mm for width. wish it was smaller than that

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Visual Phone Size Comparison: S7 vs. G5 vs. 10

 

[neo905]

Watching these impressions videos, the HTC 10 is nice but it won't save HTC.

Personally if I was in the market right now, I'd probably get an S7 over the 10.

Why?

 

[AllenRulz]

Why?

I'm with you, why? This phone seems amazing and right there with the s7 if not passed it already.

 

[npaladin-2000]

Watching these impressions videos, the HTC 10 is nice but it won't save HTC.

Personally if I was in the market right now, I'd probably get an S7 over the 10.

I think most people would, but that's primarily due to brand recognition. I don't think this is going to catapult HTC back into stardom, but I think it's the right device at the right time, and it'll keep them going and gain them some market share. In particular it's a great Nexus alternative now, with the pared back software.

I'm still debating whether to get the T-Mo version or the unlocked one...especially now that I remembered T-Mo is deploying EVS.

 

[Pat-C]

Re: The HTC 10 is official - Initial impressions

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[Ry]

Why?

Re: S7 over 10 for me, looking at the dimensions, the 10 is wider than the S7. Having held the S7, it's very comfortable. While the 10 may produce better (if not the best) shots in the lighting conditions that matter to me, the S7 is no slouch in the camera department.

Re: saving HTC, I think they're too far behind Samsung and LG to matter. And without knowing their PNL and ROI targets, I feel like the 10 should be priced well below the Galaxy S7 and G5.

 

[Ry]

I think most people would, but that's primarily due to brand recognition. I don't think this is going to catapult HTC back into stardom, but I think it's the right device at the right time, and it'll keep them going and gain them some market share. In particular it's a great Nexus alternative now, with the pared back software.

I'm still debating whether to get the T-Mo version or the unlocked one...especially now that I remembered T-Mo is deploying EVS.

Without factoring the price, sure it's a great Nexus alternative when it comes to user experience. But IMO, at $200 more than the Nexus 6P in the US - why bother? Just get the Nexus.

 

[AllenRulz]

Re: S7 over 10 for me, looking at the dimensions, the 10 is wider than the S7. Having held the S7, it's very comfortable. While the 10 may produce better (if not the best) shots in the lighting conditions that matter to me, the S7 is no slouch in the camera department.

Re: saving HTC, I think they're too far behind Samsung and LG to matter. And without knowing their PNL and ROI targets, I feel like the 10 should be priced well below the Galaxy S7 and G5.

I'm with you on price. I'm so shocked it's this expensive. It should be way lower. I'm now nervous if HTC does in fact make this years 2 Nexus devices, how much their going to sell them for...

 

[Ry]

I'm with you on price. I'm so shocked it's this expensive. It should be way lower. I'm now nervous if HTC does in fact make this years 2 Nexus devices, how much their going to sell them for...

IMO, HTC made the same mistake with the A9's release price.

 

[anon(9408097)]

Re: S7 over 10 for me, looking at the dimensions, the 10 is wider than the S7. Having held the S7, it's very comfortable. While the 10 may produce better (if not the best) shots in the lighting conditions that matter to me, the S7 is no slouch in the camera department.

Re: saving HTC, I think they're too far behind Samsung and LG to matter. And without knowing their PNL and ROI targets, I feel like the 10 should be priced well below the Galaxy S7 and G5.

HTC has always been known as the iPhone killer. Most of the people considered HTC the only true competitor in terms of build and over all quality to the iPhone. However that changed with the M9 and the massive iPhone 6 sales.

With the S7 and the S7 edge luring iPhone users towards android, this is a great second option for some of those people switching. I know many people who still aren't convinced by the Samsung glass built and software. Though I love them. With the 10, they'll have a perfect alternative. An all metal phone built like a tank!

Taking apple out of the equation. I think HTC will always have a top spot in Android world with them being the first company to really push out designs which wowed us. If it wasn't for them these new companies wouldn't have a precedent to follow. HTC is the one company which made built quality a point of discussion in the Android world.

So. It doesn't matter what the number says. HTC does have a winner in their hands. Although I agree with people saying that it could've been lighter and the front bezels could've been smaller. Still, this phone is the best built phone and the sturdiest phone out there. With basic features doing well.

It might not do wonders for HTC as a business but this will help them create even better phones in the future. Keeping in mind HTC vive has been a success too. With this gained confidence HTC can turn things around if they keep this momentum going.

Very happy for HTC

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[madgalaxy]

I will take a metal phone over glass any day. My S7 looks great, but feels so delicate. I am a fan of LCD over AMOLED (my S7 is set to Basic and my 6P to sRGB). Also I have a soft spot for HTC - my first smart device was an HTC Blue Angel (Qtek 9090)!

 

[Ry]

HTC has always been known as the iPhone killer. Most of the people considered HTC the only true competitor in terms of build and over all quality to the iPhone. However that changed with the M9 and the massive iPhone 6 sales.

With the S7 and the S7 edge luring iPhone users towards android, this is a great second option for some of those people switching. I know many people who still aren't convinced by the Samsung glass built and software. Though I love them. With the 10, they'll have a perfect alternative. An all metal phone built like a tank!

Taking apple out of the equation. I think HTC will always have a top spot in Android world with them being the first company to really push out designs which wowed us. If it wasn't for them these new companies wouldn't have a precedent to follow. HTC is the one company which made built quality a point of discussion in the Android world.

So. It doesn't matter what the number says. HTC does have a winner in their hands. Although I agree with people saying that it could've been lighter and the front bezels could've been smaller. Still, this phone is the best built phone and the sturdiest phone out there. With basic features doing well.

It might not do wonders for HTC as a business but this will help them create even better phones in the future. Keeping in mind HTC vive has been a success too. With this gained confidence HTC can turn things around if they keep this momentum going.

Very happy for HTC

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But going by sales numbers and overall health of the company, it didn't matter that HTC was known (to those in the know, because let's be honest: HTC doesn't have and never has had the brand power of a company like Samsung) as being Apple's only true competitor in build and overall quality.

Taking Apple out of the equation, Samsung passed HTC long ago and IMO, HTC will never catch up. When your options are the S7 or G5 (ignoring Apple), or $200 less for the darling Nexus 6P, I don't see how the 10 is relevant. Samsung stepped up their design game with the S6 and isn't looking back. LG has some issues with the G5 but they're doing all sorts of experimentation with it's Friends, and I don't see people complaining too much about the build quality of the Nexus 6P.

That said, as you can probably tell, I never had a soft spot for HTC. To me, there were always an ODM (see the carrier-branded Windows Mobile phones pre-iPhone) trying to be an OEM. But don't get me wrong, I want HTC around to compete. Competition makes everyone better. It's a competition though so we're going to compare.

 

[sydneycooper1979]

MKHB Initial impressions!

Marques Brownlee initial impressions!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IJWckL5L84

 

[Citizen Coyote]

I haven't been this excited about an HTC phone since the original EVO. This is the phone I'd hoped HTC would release every year, only to be disappointed by something. This phone looks great. My only quibble is the price; $700 for an unlocked device is too much, especially for a company trying to win back market share. We'll see if that price sticks as the year progresses.

 

[Ry]

I haven't been this excited about an HTC phone since the original EVO. This is the phone I'd hoped HTC would release every year, only to be disappointed by something. This phone looks great. My only quibble is the price; $700 for an unlocked device is too much, especially for a company trying to win back market share. We'll see if that price sticks as the year progresses.

I suspect like with the A9, there will be discounts almost monthly.

 

[anon(9408097)]

But going by sales numbers and overall health of the company, it didn't matter that HTC was known (to those in the know, because let's be honest: HTC doesn't have and never has had the brand power of a company like Samsung) as being Apple's only true competitor in build and overall quality.

Taking Apple out of the equation, Samsung passed HTC long ago and IMO, HTC will never catch up. When your options are the S7 or G5 (ignoring Apple), or $200 less for the darling Nexus 6P, I don't see how the 10 is relevant. Samsung stepped up their design game with the S6 and isn't looking back. LG has some issues with the G5 but they're doing all sorts of experimentation with it's Friends, and I don't see people complaining too much about the build quality of the Nexus 6P.

That said, as you can probably tell, I never had a soft spot for HTC. To me, there were always an ODM (see the carrier-branded Windows Mobile phones pre-iPhone) trying to be an OEM. But don't get me wrong, I want HTC around to compete. Competition makes everyone better. It's a competition though so we're going to compare.

Well I guess you see things exactly the opposite way than I do it's okay. Everybody thinks differently. At the end of the day we both want HTC do be around and doing good. That's all that matters.

Cheers

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[Citizen Coyote]

Taking Apple out of the equation, Samsung passed HTC long ago and IMO, HTC will never catch up. When your options are the S7 or G5 (ignoring Apple), or $200 less for the darling Nexus 6P, I don't see how the 10 is relevant. Samsung stepped up their design game with the S6 and isn't looking back. LG has some issues with the G5 but they're doing all sorts of experimentation with it's Friends, and I don't see people complaining too much about the build quality of the Nexus 6P.

Not relevant?

Well for one, you can buy it unlocked and unbranded by carriers. Samsung, in their infinite wisdom, is still beholden to the carriers (in the US) and all that comes with those devils' bargains. Two, it's minimal in its skinning (compared to Samsung again, and LG). Three, HTC decided to let the user decide how to use the SD card instead of ignoring one of the coolest features of Marshmallow (unlike Samsung and LG, again). Yes, you could just buy a Nexus 6P and get all of that, but not everyone wants a phone as huge as the 6P. Even Samsung has now recognized that truth, and wisely kept the S7 in the apparently low 5 sweet spot while giving phablet lovers something with the Edge.

So yes, it's relevant, because it's filling needs Samsung and LG have abandoned.

 

[Ry]

Well for one, you can buy it unlocked and unbranded by carriers. Samsung, in their infinite wisdom, is still beholden to the carriers (in the US) and all that comes with those devils' bargains.

Is it? Right now I'm seeing this at Buy HTC 10 | HTC United States

You’ll be able to switch carriers at will with the HTC 10 unlocked edition.
Simply insert your AT&T or T-Mobile SIM to begin using your HTC 10.* Sprint compatibility requires separate hardware – HTC 10 customers switching to Sprint will need to purchase a compatible device. Simply insert your AT&T or T-Mobile SIM to begin using your HTC 10.*

So while a step up from Samsung, not at the level all-four majors US carriers that Apple, Google, Motorola, BlackBerry, and LG are now at.

Two, it's minimal in its skinning (compared to Samsung again, and LG).

But IMO, if skinning mattered, I'd save $200 going with the Nexus 6P.

Three, HTC decided to let the user decide how to use the SD card instead of ignoring one of the coolest features of Marshmallow (unlike Samsung and LG, again).

Having moderated these forums here, I get Samsung's and LG's point about not including adoptable storage in their Marshmallow forks.

Yes, you could just buy a Nexus 6P and get all of that, but not everyone wants a phone as huge as the 6P. Even Samsung has now recognized that truth, and wisely kept the S7 in the apparently low 5 sweet spot while giving phablet lovers something with the Edge.

IMO, size is the only thing significant that the 10 has over the 6P. But then we throw Apple into the mix with the iPhone 6S build quality and cameras and be at the same price.

So yes, it's relevant, because it's filling needs Samsung and LG have abandoned.

 

[Ry]

Well I guess you see things exactly the opposite way than I do it's okay. Everybody thinks differently. At the end of the day we both want HTC do be around and doing good. That's all that matters.

Cheers

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Cheers!

 

[npaladin-2000]

Not relevant?

Well for one, you can buy it unlocked and unbranded by carriers. Samsung, in their infinite wisdom, is still beholden to the carriers (in the US) and all that comes with those devils' bargains. Two, it's minimal in its skinning (compared to Samsung again, and LG). Three, HTC decided to let the user decide how to use the SD card instead of ignoring one of the coolest features of Marshmallow (unlike Samsung and LG, again). Yes, you could just buy a Nexus 6P and get all of that, but not everyone wants a phone as huge as the 6P. Even Samsung has now recognized that truth, and wisely kept the S7 in the apparently low 5 sweet spot while giving phablet lovers something with the Edge.

So yes, it's relevant, because it's filling needs Samsung and LG have abandoned.

I'm not sure if the unlocked bit is going to appeal to more than a small niche...and that niche does already have the Nexus line. Now, I'm willing to accept the HTC 10 as a pseudo-Nexus as well, it's a more powerful option in the 5 inch space than the 5X. But I wonder how big of a market that actually is.

On the other hand, LG seems to have made a misstep with the G5, the modules not fitting well, and a lack of a module ecosystem so far, plus some build issues they have yet to work out, leaves HTC an opening to pick up market share. Which I think they will, it's a good alternative to the heavily-skinned Korean phones, and the ONLY lightly-skinned option carried by the phone carriers themselves, since Google pulled the Nexus from them.