Re: Methods that will allow you to both get a subsidized phone and keep UDP after 8/24/14
I have never tried the Flying Arrow Method myself, but here it is:
Flying Arrow Method
Please read through FlyingArrow's instructions yourself to confirm that I have interpreted his post correctly as I have not tried this myself.
This method is for an account that has multiple UDP lines and no basic or tiered data lines to transfer UDP upgrades to. These instructions are for a 2 UDP line account, but the method should work for accounts with more than 2 UDP lines.
The key is to activate the new smartphone on a UDP line different from the one whose upgrade was used to purchase the new smartphone AND to NOT select activate the new phone that was shipped but rather, select activate a phone that has not been on the account previously.
1) Log onto Verizon online and select Upgrade My Device;
2) Select UDP Line #1’s upgrade but purchase the smartphone you want for UDP Line #2;
3) Select the 2GB data plan for UDP Line #1; and
4) When the new smartphone arrives, log onto Verizon online and activate it on UDP Line #2 but DO NOT SELECT ACTIVATE THE NEW PHONE THAT WAS SHIPPED, instead click on the link that allows you to activate a different phone that you haven’t had on your account previously.
Although I haven't tried it myself, it seems like you should be able to just use UDP Line #2's existing SIM card rather than the SIM card the phone shipped with and thus avoid the online activation altogether. But of course, then you get into the issue of SIM card mismatch if the new smartphone uses a different size SIM card. Please do not clutter this thread with questions about SIM card mismatches - cutters, adapters, requesting new SIM cards, etc.
To use UDP Line #2’s upgrade:
1) Log onto Verizon online and select Upgrade My Device;
2) Select UDP Line #2’s upgrade but purchase the smartphone you want for UDP Line #1;
3) Select the 2GB data plan for UDP Line #2; and
4) When the new smartphone arrives, log onto Verizon online and activate it on UDP Line #1 but DO NOT SELECT ACTIVATE THE NEW PHONE THAT WAS SHIPPED, instead click on the link that allows you to activate a different phone that you haven’t had on your account previously.
The reason this method appears to work is because you do not activate the new subsidized smartphone on the UDP line whose upgrade was used to purchase it AND because you do NOT select activate the new subsidized smartphone that shipped; rather you activate it as if it were a non-subsidized smartphone that had never been on your account before.
This method seems like it would be pretty easy for Verizon to defeat with only minimal changes to their system. It's clear that Verizon is on a mission to exterminate every last UDP so I wouldn’t put it past them to come up with a way to stop this method from working.
Flying Arrow Method
I have never tried the Flying Arrow Method myself, but here it is:
Flying Arrow Method
Please read through FlyingArrow's instructions yourself to confirm that I have interpreted his post correctly as I have not tried this myself.
This method is for an account that has multiple UDP lines and no basic or tiered data lines to transfer UDP upgrades to. These instructions are for a 2 UDP line account, but the method should work for accounts with more than 2 UDP lines.
The key is to activate the new smartphone on a UDP line different from the one whose upgrade was used to purchase the new smartphone AND to NOT select activate the new phone that was shipped but rather, select activate a phone that has not been on the account previously.
1) Log onto Verizon online and select Upgrade My Device;
2) Select UDP Line #1’s upgrade but purchase the smartphone you want for UDP Line #2;
3) Select the 2GB data plan for UDP Line #1; and
4) When the new smartphone arrives, log onto Verizon online and activate it on UDP Line #2 but DO NOT SELECT ACTIVATE THE NEW PHONE THAT WAS SHIPPED, instead click on the link that allows you to activate a different phone that you haven’t had on your account previously.
Although I haven't tried it myself, it seems like you should be able to just use UDP Line #2's existing SIM card rather than the SIM card the phone shipped with and thus avoid the online activation altogether. But of course, then you get into the issue of SIM card mismatch if the new smartphone uses a different size SIM card. Please do not clutter this thread with questions about SIM card mismatches - cutters, adapters, requesting new SIM cards, etc.
To use UDP Line #2’s upgrade:
1) Log onto Verizon online and select Upgrade My Device;
2) Select UDP Line #2’s upgrade but purchase the smartphone you want for UDP Line #1;
3) Select the 2GB data plan for UDP Line #2; and
4) When the new smartphone arrives, log onto Verizon online and activate it on UDP Line #1 but DO NOT SELECT ACTIVATE THE NEW PHONE THAT WAS SHIPPED, instead click on the link that allows you to activate a different phone that you haven’t had on your account previously.
The reason this method appears to work is because you do not activate the new subsidized smartphone on the UDP line whose upgrade was used to purchase it AND because you do NOT select activate the new subsidized smartphone that shipped; rather you activate it as if it were a non-subsidized smartphone that had never been on your account before.
This method seems like it would be pretty easy for Verizon to defeat with only minimal changes to their system. It's clear that Verizon is on a mission to exterminate every last UDP so I wouldn’t put it past them to come up with a way to stop this method from working.
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