IP53 rating a bit dissapointing

[raqball]

IP53 rating a bit disappointing:

Not to me!...........

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I see you have a Samsung in that baggie.... You forgot to add an image so I'll help ya out...

 

[Old Stoneface]

... my opinion is that many people tear down a new device simply because they don't have the means to get one. Makes them feel better.

Attempting to mischaracterize honest opinion that way probably isn't going to change opinion and it certainly won't change the facts.

Watching people throw online tantrums about it is what's astonishing..

See above

Your course is clear... The Pixel is not for you!

As I've made lucidly clear, each time I've commented upon the Pixels: They're not for me in any event. That does not change the fact that they have marginal water resistance, at best. Nor does it change the fact that it's not unreasonable for someone to express their feeling that's unacceptable in a device costing that much money--particularly when other manufacturers have managed to manufacture devices with very good water resistance at a fraction of the MSRP.

The Pixel does have marginal protection, but I think you're mischaracterizing the market. As indicated before, there are very few devices that have any sort of certified protection and this is one of them.

There have also been many battery powered devices that were above-average prone to catching fire. Are you prepared to make the same argument for the Samsung Note 7, then? Of course not. And you will not do that because you know that such a defect in other devices does not excuse it in that one. Same thing. Not as catastrophic, to be sure, but, same thing: Whether other devices have the same lack does not change the fact this one does.

Btw: I'll note I've long complained about the lack of water resistance in wireless phones. IMO: Every wireless phone made should be, at the very least, splash-resistant.

At this point I'm done with this discussion. Obviously neither side of the argument is going to change the other side's opinion.

 

[Wiley_11]

At this point I'm done with this discussion. Obviously neither side of the argument is going to change the other side's opinion.

It always cracks me how people can get so edgy over a stinkin cellphone. You would think they designed and built the thing. When all they did was buy it, hell anybody can do that..........

 

[raqball]

It always cracks me how people can get so edgy over a stinkin cellphone. You would think they designed and built the thing. When all they did was buy it, hell anybody can do that..........

Or didn't buy it and somehow think the rant will effect the company going forward... Google can care less if user4723 (apologies to user4723 if you exist) didn't buy the phone because it lacked 3D warp drive mode..

 

[Octo Man]

I just can't imagine running through a significant rain shower with my phone in my hand. Don't ya'll put away the phone when it rains?

 

[Old Stoneface]

It always cracks me how people can get so edgy over a stinkin cellphone. You would think they designed and built the thing. When all they did was buy it, hell anybody can do that..........

It's kind of normal, really. And the more expensive the thing is, the more likely you'll find people vociferously promoting or defending it. It's often a self-assurance kind of a thing. People desire positive reinforcement that their acquisition decisions are good ones. Certainly nobody wants to hear that others think they're spending their money unwisely

As for this phone: It's got some impressive specs. What they've done with the camera, if it really works as they claim it does, is particularly impressive. But the phone costs more than I can afford, much less justify, and, as a separate issue, I feel they could've done better, in some respects, for the money. But, hey: If it works for somebody else: I'm glad they're happy. I'm not criticizing their decision. It's just not for me.

 

[person13628]

this rating was almost a dealbreaker for me on an $800 phone. i'll probably still buy it but i wont like it.

 

[raqball]

It's kind of normal, really. And the more expensive the thing is, the more likely you'll find people vociferously promoting or defending it. It's often a self-assurance kind of a thing. People desire positive reinforcement that their acquisition decisions are good ones. Certainly nobody wants to hear that others think they're spending their money unwisely

Buying any phone is a waste of your money... They are not good investments, they last a few years and are pretty much disposable these days...

It could also be vise-versa.. Slam a phone because it's not in the budget at it's listed price... The whole I can't afford it so I am going to make everyone else life miserable..

I dunno... It's truly mind boggling why some post about things they don't want or care about but to each their own right?

Whatever people get it's their money so who am I to criticize their decision? That's why you won't find me in the sub-forums of devices that I don't want or care about.. My posting there would serve zero purpose other than to irritate and disrupt the people who genuinely want to discuss the phone that interest them..

 

[Wiley_11]

Whatever people get it's their money so who am I to criticize their decision? That's why you won't find me in the sub-forums of devices that I don't want or care about.. My posting there would serve zero purpose other than to irritate and disrupt the people who genuinely want to discuss the phone that interest them..

Thought for the day: "One can only get irritated and disrupted if one allows it." Alfred E. Neuman 1958

 

[Toughmn]

This was one of my biggest disappointments with the phone. If they wanted to play with the big boys again, they should have at least matched them in features. Cases will help and time will tell if it matters or not.

 

[Old Stoneface]

Whatever people get it's their money so who am I to criticize their decision?

There's your first mistake: Personalizing somebody's criticism of device. A criticism of a device is not necessarily a criticism of your choice to own one. Only you can internalize it in that manner.

That's why you won't find me in the sub-forums of devices that I don't want or care about..

Your second mistaken assumption: That people who have decided not to acquire a device have no interest in it.

I was interested in the next Nexus devices. It turned out they weren't going to be Nexus devices and it turned out they'd be lacking what I regard as a pretty important feature. So, because I decided not to own one, I'm not allowed to comment on why I chose not to?

My posting there would serve zero purpose other than to irritate and disrupt the people who genuinely want to discuss the phone that interest them..

Go ahead and discuss. The subject clearly indicates this would be a thread critical of the device. If you cannot avoid being annoyed by criticism of a device you've chosen to purchase, perhaps you should avoid such threads entirely.

Or should AC create Yet Another Set Of Sub-Forums where only complaints can be voiced? If they did that, and you defended your purchasing decision in such a venue, would the complainants be justified in complaining that your defensiveness is annoying?

 

[raqball]

There's your first mistake: Personalizing somebody's criticism of device. A criticism of a device is not necessarily a criticism of your choice to own one. Only you can internalize it in that manner.


Your second mistaken assumption: That people who have decided not to acquire a device have no interest in it.

I was interested in the next Nexus devices. It turned out they weren't going to be Nexus devices and it turned out they'd be lacking what I regard as a pretty important feature. So, because I decided not to own one, I'm not allowed to comment on why I chose not to?


Go ahead and discuss. The subject clearly indicates this would be a thread critical of the device. If you cannot avoid being annoyed by criticism of a device you've chosen to purchase, perhaps you should avoid such threads entirely.

Or should AC create Yet Another Set Of Sub-Forums where only complaints can be voiced? If they did that, and you defended your purchasing decision in such a venue, would the complainants be justified in complaining that your defensiveness is annoying?

Not annoyed at all... I actually think it's quite humorous how some are acting.... What you can't see in the typed word is just how laughable I find some comments to be, my facial expression(s) to them and how a few times I actually rolled my eyes AND laughed out loud..

Comic relief at it's best while I wait for my Pixel to ship....

In the mean time, by all means please DO continue on......

 

[Wiley_11]

There's your first mistake: Personalizing somebody's criticism of device. A criticism of a device is not necessarily a criticism of your choice to own one. Only you can internalize it in that manner.


Your second mistaken assumption: That people who have decided not to acquire a device have no interest in it.

I was interested in the next Nexus devices. It turned out they weren't going to be Nexus devices and it turned out they'd be lacking what I regard as a pretty important feature. So, because I decided not to own one, I'm not allowed to comment on why I chose not to?


Go ahead and discuss. The subject clearly indicates this would be a thread critical of the device. If you cannot avoid being annoyed by criticism of a device you've chosen to purchase, perhaps you should avoid such threads entirely.

Or should AC create Yet Another Set Of Sub-Forums where only complaints can be voiced? If they did that, and you defended your purchasing decision in such a venue, would the complainants be justified in complaining that your defensiveness is annoying?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7AQkui_fcA

 

[raqball]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7AQkui_fcA

Why would someones rant / internet tantrum about a phone effect me? LOL at the video though,,,,

 

[dsignori]

There have been 4 mainstream flagship phones rated IP67 or higher. In 2014 the Galaxy S5 IP67, the iPhone 7 is IP67 and the S7 and Note 7 are IP68. The HTC 10 and Pixel are both IP53. As far as I know, there aren't any mainstream flagships other than those 6 devices with any official IP rating at all.

Still... In October 2016, this seems like a feature that needs to be in high-end phones at this point IMO. It is a pretty big negative to me, for sure. It may not matter to folks not around water much, but for me it really is a factor.

 

[Aquila]

Still... In October 2016, this seems like a feature that needs to be in high-end phones at this point IMO. It is a pretty big negative to me, for sure. It may not matter to folks not around water much, but for me it really is a factor.

I agree with you to a point. And that point is that almost nothing in mobile exists until Apple says it does. They did IP this year, next year everyone that knew they were doing it this year will try to get on board. The HTC 10 and Pixel both have 53 because they're the same generation of being a year behind Samsung and Apple on this front, though Samsung is much less relevant on this front.

 

[Don Chill]

It's not like people are meant to engage in water sports with their phones but the ratings are still important because sometimes mishaps do occur.

Flagship phones with premium prices should have premium features.

 

[MAK497]

Sony phones have had IP ratings for years

 

[DestinedtoGame]

If you have a $1,000 phone I would hope that you would know how to use a weather app. Getting caught in the rain can be at a minimal in this case.

 

[Aquila]

Sony phones have had IP ratings for years

That's exactly what I mean by it being non-existent in the public eye until Apple does it - the same thing happened with fingerprint scanner, Google Now and Siri, etc.