Is everyone not understanding the value in the Pixels pricing?

I've got to agree with you. It is a hefty price tag but the Camera and Assistant alone are well worth the price hike. I think that for people who are used to Nexus pricing this is going to hurt (like me) but if you look at what Google is trying to do here, this puts the Pixel right in line with the iPhone which is crazy expensive also.
 
If its so simple and refined, I'm not quite sure what could possibly go wrong that 24/7 live support needs to exist. I guess it appeals to the less tech savvy people, that help is always available, but help with what? The thing is supposed to update itself, be super efficient and have an assistant.
Yeah I just find it funny that people keep bringing up tech support as a pro.

I don't care about tech support; if we're being honest, no one who frequents this forum needs tech support. We already know how to use Android, that feature isn't for us.
 
My $400 moto z play has unlimited Google photo storage as well.

We won't know how verizon handles security updates for a few months (I'm sure the first one will be fast but then....)

How Verizon affects the updates concerns me also.
 
He's right. Your wishful thinking is clouding your judgement.

Google assistant will make it's way to Android, iOS, and even the regular browser search engine.

Google assistant is not going to sell phones. However the data it will collect from users on multiple platforms will add to Google's bottom line.

I honestly don't see how anyone can be confused about this, it's basic common sense.

Wishful thinking? They specifically said there were "pixel only" things. Why would I have wishful thinking on that? You think I got the Pixel JUST because of that? Sorry sir -- you have assumed very wrong here.
 
Wishful thinking? They specifically said there were "pixel only" things. Why would I have wishful thinking on that? You think I got the Pixel JUST because of that? Sorry sir -- you have assumed very wrong here.
Yeah, Google invested all that time and money just to have Assistant live and die on the Pixel. Just like how they ensured 'Google Now' never went multiplatform.

You're right, I'm wrong.
 
Yeah, Google invested all that time and money just to have Assistant live and die on the Pixel. Just like how they ensured 'Google Now' never went multiplatform.

You're right, I'm wrong.

I see you just want to argue. I one -- never said anyone was right or wrong. I simply stated that there are articles saying certain things may be Pixel only and you wanted to jump all on me to say stuff is "clouding my judgement" and I have "wishful thinking" when I was just stating what has been reported. You assume that because of that one thing is the reason I bought the phone and that is why I said you assumed wrong.
 
I see the pricing as a marketing statement, more than anything. Google wants to place the Pixels on the premium market, that involves a premium price in addition to all the other attributes (build quality, etc). These exact same phones priced at 300 or 400$ would not be considered premium, thus not an Iphone competitor.
 
I bought my Nexus 5, from Google, for $399 + tax. That's a 32GB phone and it's been awesome so far; yes, it's a 3 year old phone and soon there will be no updates for for it.
I don't think Google will subsidize the Pixel phones like they've done with the Nexus phones thus far...and therefore they charge the full price (starting at $649 for 32GB Pixel).
 
I'm more or less in agreement with many of the sentiments here. While I'm anxious to try one, and have been looking for a replacement for my aging Nexus 6, the price is definitely a deterrent. I'm going to wait a month or two and see what happens. Like someone above mentioned, Black Friday deals, anyone?
 
I see you just want to argue. I one -- never said anyone was right or wrong. I simply stated that there are articles saying certain things may be Pixel only and you wanted to jump all on me to say stuff is "clouding my judgement" and I have "wishful thinking" when I was just stating what has been reported. You assume that because of that one thing is the reason I bought the phone and that is why I said you assumed wrong.
Well, there is no way Google assistant doesn't make it to Android proper or iOS.

It is the evolution of Google Now. Google's business is data collection, that is their priority (not building bland phones).

If Google's assistant let's them collect more data by going multiplatform, it won't even be a debate, they're going multiplatform.

Pixel isn't going to bring in the kind of revenue that the data collected from assistant is; furthermore, assistant (I'm assuming) took some resources to create, it would be fiscally stupid to wall assistant down to one phone that would be lucky to sell a half million units.

I'm not trying to sound like I'm all knowing or anything; but this is just common sense to anyone who has been paying attention.
 
Funny you say software is the focus when it won't be updated beyond 2 years. If software was truly the focus they would have announced a revolutionary feature - 4 years of OS updates.
Little point in that when the non-user-replaceable battery will be dead or dying in two years or a little more.
 
Little point in that when the non-user-replaceable battery will be dead or dying in two years or a little more.

User replaceable batteries die too, and when they die people tend to replace them with cheap and possibly dangerous ones. I recently started to prefer service replaceable original batteries.
 
Well, there is no way Google assistant doesn't make it to Android proper or iOS.

It is the evolution of Google Now. Google's business is data collection, that is their priority (not building bland phones).

If Google's assistant let's them collect more data by going multiplatform, it won't even be a debate, they're going multiplatform.

Pixel isn't going to bring in the kind of revenue that the data collected from assistant is; furthermore, assistant (I'm assuming) took some resources to create, it would be fiscally stupid to wall assistant down to one phone that would be lucky to sell a half million units.

I'm not trying to sound like I'm all knowing or anything; but this is just common sense to anyone who has been paying attention.

Eventually? Sure I could agree. It would make sense to expand. It is just articles like this -- Google says Pixel Launcher is exclusive to Pixel phones, will consider expanding it later say for now they want to keep it as a "feature" to their new phones and the assist from the looks of it is built into the home button.

Of course Google Assistant is in the Allo app for others right now. I am just wondering when it will either be a stand alone app (like Google Now) or if the launcher will be released that has it built into the home button upon holding it (like the Pixel).
 
I don't think it's overpriced for the perks you're getting.

But they really could have stereo speakers and wirelless charging...
 
I see the pricing as a marketing statement, more than anything. Google wants to place the Pixels on the premium market, that involves a premium price in addition to all the other attributes (build quality, etc). These exact same phones priced at 300 or 400$ would not be considered premium, thus not an Iphone competitor.
Yeah that's true
The nexus wasn't a competitor to the iPhone or even the galaxy series for that matter
The only question here is whether Google would succeed in luring an iPhone or a galaxy user to buy a pixel
The way it is right now
I don't think this marketing strategy would work out well
No doubt the pixel seems to be a great phone
But there's a great brand loyalty that works in the favour of iPhone
 
Yeah that's true
The nexus wasn't a competitor to the iPhone or even the galaxy series for that matter
The only question here is whether Google would succeed in luring an iPhone or a galaxy user to buy a pixel
The way it is right now
I don't think this marketing strategy would work out well
No doubt the pixel seems to be a great phone
But there's a great brand loyalty that works in the favour of iPhone

If Google drops the Pixel and Pixel XL pricing to $400 and $500,
then Samsung will probably have many sleepless cold winter nights.
(fortunately, they can warm up to the cozy fires of you-know-what! :D )
 
Time will tell how successful the phone will be. I wonder why out of all carriers they chose Verizon.
 
I think, possibly, it has something to do with the required promotion of the phone in their commercials. Maybe the other carriers didn't want to 'dilute' their message by touting the phones they now do and adding this one to their queue.
 
To add my 2 cents, we won't fully realize with this phone and maybe even the 2017's version the inroads Google will be able to make into the hardware business. Hopefully they are in it for years to come and it's not a project they drop after one, or two years.

The opening of the event really hammered home artificial intelligence is their focus which has me excited. This sounds like a fantastic direction to head for. Think in terms of paying someone to be your personal assistant and they carry your phone with them at all times. Every time you need something from your phone you ask your assistant to do it for you and she retrieves it. THIS is what Google wants your phone to become, minus the human you are talking to. Brilliant.

As a side note, Apple would not be able to 'catch up' or keep up with this new direction without changing their data collection policies. In order to do this right, you simply need as much information from the owner as you can get to really it knock this out of the park.
 

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