Just got this Virgin Mobile text..
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Yeah you can but they want you to pay for it, that's the whole point of rooting.
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There are apps in the market.... Anyone can use them. Easy tether, pdanet, etc.
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Stop talking logically it ruins the ability to say VM is trying to stop rooting.
Ill say it again, it is a cover their ass clause.
They have to have that or they have to accept phones that have been rooted for warranty. Further more Vm could have just snuck it in when you payed your bill that month. But they were up front and notified you in advance. shesh
Ill say it again, it is a cover their ass clause.
They have to have that or they have to accept phones that have been rooted for warranty. Further more Vm could have just snuck it in when you payed your bill that month. But they were up front and notified you in advance. shesh
They have never liked rooting or allowed tethering (probably never allowed rooting either).
Can they terminate your service for rooting... debatable. Can they detect it? Well, when your device sends back that you have GB on a device that has only ever come with Froyo, how hard do you think it will be to figure out? Google planned to lock out movies on rooted devices (I think CM managed to figure out a way to hide it from that). On the other hand, courts have already declared it is legal to root your device, when Apple and the carriers went after Jailbreakers. They say you can't just to stop some goody goods from doing it.
The question is, how hard are they looking. Google knows I use an Evo 4G on Virgin.
By the way, some tethering apps are locking up LG Elites, requiring a wipe to get them going again.
Can they terminate your service for rooting... debatable. Can they detect it? Well, when your device sends back that you have GB on a device that has only ever come with Froyo, how hard do you think it will be to figure out? Google planned to lock out movies on rooted devices (I think CM managed to figure out a way to hide it from that). On the other hand, courts have already declared it is legal to root your device, when Apple and the carriers went after Jailbreakers. They say you can't just to stop some goody goods from doing it.
The question is, how hard are they looking. Google knows I use an Evo 4G on Virgin.
By the way, some tethering apps are locking up LG Elites, requiring a wipe to get them going again.
Exactly.
Yep and the new terms of service is saying we don't want your welfare collecting not gonna pay me nuttin rooting ass using tethering without payin for it no mo.. Being the capitalist I am I respect VM for doing that now and giving me fair warning which is a lot me than you will get most places..
I use to be able to smoke a cig after din dins in a diner but no more.. I knew then I'd lost some of my freedom and it would get much worse and it has.. I will die a free man..
My suggestion is to learn Chinese as that appears to be the form of government and business model the current administration enveys and I suspect the next admin will too and this action comes as no surprise with commie boy running the show now.. I mean we can't have the children using the phone with out permission can we?? I just wish Marxist meant bad ppl with magic markers.. Sadly it's way worse than that..
I agree LeslieAnn. I maintain my old man's OV and have a new MT. Both came with Froyo
(barf !) and now run CM 7.2. (GB Roms) I had my MT running stock for about an hour ( I couldn't stand it any longer than that!) with SLOW GPS & EVERYTHING! Thankfully there is enough good info to FIX the problems with the new MT! (thanks to a few great devs!) It's a shame that the general public has to resort to "becoming handy "on their own to get their issues fixed with these devices.We pay a great deal of hard earned cash for them,and if
they won't send out the fixes, then we'll fix it DIY style! It would be unfair to kick us off the network because we are guilty of fixing THEIR inferior work! CyanogenMOD has over 1 MILLION users so I don't believe they're going to throw out all of us. That's too much money to lose!
(barf !) and now run CM 7.2. (GB Roms) I had my MT running stock for about an hour ( I couldn't stand it any longer than that!) with SLOW GPS & EVERYTHING! Thankfully there is enough good info to FIX the problems with the new MT! (thanks to a few great devs!) It's a shame that the general public has to resort to "becoming handy "on their own to get their issues fixed with these devices.We pay a great deal of hard earned cash for them,and if
they won't send out the fixes, then we'll fix it DIY style! It would be unfair to kick us off the network because we are guilty of fixing THEIR inferior work! CyanogenMOD has over 1 MILLION users so I don't believe they're going to throw out all of us. That's too much money to lose!
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I think the major issue was tethering to begin with, the 2.5gb caps says it all.
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pbailey212
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I love this post! Its so random and out of context. I think its good for VM. They shouldn't waste money on replacing bricked phones. If you screw up your phone by not following instructions or being reckless, you should be held accountable and not expect vm replace your phone
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It's not just the tethering, I think Rom Manager bricking all of those phones also plays a big role in the TOS change. I wouldn't be surprised if some customers returned bricked phones or messed up ones with modified recoveries installed & such, and caused this "change". I understand voiding of warranty, but cutting off service is somewhat of an extreme move to make.
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Oh you know that happened and then came the lawyers .. I'm not a big fan of stupid ppl or poor losers that said the lord love's um cuz I'm out numbered 10 to 1.. Random and out of context.. Thx for being kind pbailey212 hehe.. I'm all that and a bag of chips!! Wording is they reserve the right.. Play nice they will take that $$ is my bet..
Tethering was nvr a issue with me I want the rom control for personal setup and efficiency in operation nothing more.. If they want to cut off their nose to spite their face let um is my attitude on cutting me off.. Some of us don't need freebies.. If I need it I will pay for it on my rooted phone.. As brave as that sounds I will probably have a unrooted phone on another carrier now just in case so no hero warship or praise plz.. Ok so who wants their donation first just so I know, you know, you get it now and pay up playa
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Oh man you gave them WHAT?? Thought cash only was a much better way to go in this arena.. My bad.. Just because it's a conspiracy doesn't mean they are not watching you.. Some don't care.. I do
But I hate cop shows so I get it and in the interest of context won't go there for 10 minutes turn off the random setting now and play nice my bad again.. I'm sorry I watched Idiana Jone's and they ain't gettin the cc #.. Lmao
But I hate cop shows so I get it and in the interest of context won't go there for 10 minutes turn off the random setting now and play nice my bad again..
I'm sorry I watched Idiana Jone's and they ain't gettin the cc #.. LmaoI'm really confused by the last 10 or so posts, lol. Btw, did we land on the moon?
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*Entering hacker mode*
I'm guessing they can find this out by what someone else said in the thread, by pinging the phone or nmaping the phone to see:
1. What the OS is running on the Phone.
2. If the phone responds to a su command.
3. If any there is any missing OEM software.
When a phone is off, it will not respond to a ping request, when your missing said app, it will not respond to a ping request. So logically, they are gonna have multiple apps to verify if the phone has a root or not. So in theory you could emulate that the phone is off by using some type of firewall on android, and blocking any applications that have direct access to Vm's network.
Now you could argue that they might shut you off because, you are using your services when the phone should be "off". So if they do shut you down, flash stock firmware on the device and remove root. Call back VM and get support, they will probably start asking for some type of verification, turn the firewall off and let them do it. They will see its the stock ROM without root, and you get off scott free.
Sprint and Virgin mobile do have the right to their networks, but I also have the right to use my phone as I wish. The phone is not licensed, it is bought, unless I am breaking any of their TOS for their service(And not their phone TOS), I can do anything I want. To the point where I could challenge it in court and win, because it says nothing on the phone box that it is a licensed product.
No license == No control of said phone
EDIT: I speaking C/C++ better then english; So please let me "debug" all of the grammar
I'm guessing they can find this out by what someone else said in the thread, by pinging the phone or nmaping the phone to see:
1. What the OS is running on the Phone.
2. If the phone responds to a su command.
3. If any there is any missing OEM software.
When a phone is off, it will not respond to a ping request, when your missing said app, it will not respond to a ping request. So logically, they are gonna have multiple apps to verify if the phone has a root or not. So in theory you could emulate that the phone is off by using some type of firewall on android, and blocking any applications that have direct access to Vm's network.
Now you could argue that they might shut you off because, you are using your services when the phone should be "off". So if they do shut you down, flash stock firmware on the device and remove root. Call back VM and get support, they will probably start asking for some type of verification, turn the firewall off and let them do it. They will see its the stock ROM without root, and you get off scott free.
Sprint and Virgin mobile do have the right to their networks, but I also have the right to use my phone as I wish. The phone is not licensed, it is bought, unless I am breaking any of their TOS for their service(And not their phone TOS), I can do anything I want. To the point where I could challenge it in court and win, because it says nothing on the phone box that it is a licensed product.
No license == No control of said phone
EDIT: I speaking C/C++ better then english; So please let me "debug" all of the grammar
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Nate456
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You just blew my mind
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They are not taking my nice thing, I'll fight tooth and nail if I need too.
Relax people.
Rooting has been against the terms of service for at least a year.
Virgin Mobile Says No to Rooting
Booting a bunch of paying customers because they rooted their own phones, would be pretty stupid. How much money would they lose by doing that? Imagine the PR flap.
So long as you aren't costing them money, they aren't going to spend money to stop you, besides, courts have already ruled they can't stop you from rooting.
Rooting has been against the terms of service for at least a year.
Virgin Mobile Says No to Rooting
Booting a bunch of paying customers because they rooted their own phones, would be pretty stupid. How much money would they lose by doing that? Imagine the PR flap.
So long as you aren't costing them money, they aren't going to spend money to stop you, besides, courts have already ruled they can't stop you from rooting.
This, and if you do root/flash custom roms or use tethering, please, just please use it for emergencies, don't tether your PS3 or your XBOX, using 20+GB's of data, because that's what really hurts all of us.
I agree, this is not really about the rooting, it's more or less about the tethering.
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