LG Dropped the ball

[Mooncatt]

Samsung nailed DOF and low light with the Note 7. Low light on Note 7 is even better than the 7 Edge.

Wait, are you talking about increasing or decreasing DOF? I was thinking you wanted a greater DOF, but I know the Note 7 can edit it for something like a shallower DOF.

 

[recDNA]

Note 7 out now. Iphone 7+ out now. Won't leave many buyers for V20.

 

[rushmore]

Wait, are you talking about increasing or decreasing DOF? I was thinking you wanted a greater DOF, but I know the Note 7 can edit it for something like a shallower DOF.

Nah, just wanting same as Note 7.

 

[prasad219]

LG should be capitalizing on Samsung's Note 7 debacle and release the V20 ASAP. Just my opinion.

They are always releasing devices quiet late as compared to their competitors. The 10 was launched, Huawei P9, Samsung Note 7, even the iPhone 7 was launched not to mention the Moto Z somewhere in between. It's just too late to climb on top now.

 

[PalakMi]

I agree with, if LG wants to release the V20 this week is the best time while the note 7 is absent from the market

 

[Morty2264]

I think release dates have a lot more to them than just taking advantage of random opportunities. For whatever reason the V20 is not ready for prime time.

I agree with you. There must be more to it than merely announcing the device. Besides, as we've seen with the Note 7, it may be better to wait a little while to be absolutely certain your device is operational in every way (to the best of your ability/knowledge) before releasing it.

 

[rushmore]

But that seems the point. Why do a launch event and not optimize momentum for sales? The launch should have been around two weeks before the device is released.

 

[omgitselaine]

Teasing is uuummm ....... not NICE so I've been told !!

If the V20 was out or even a couple of weeks wait then I probably would had been a little bit more patient.

Instead I got my replacement Note 7 to move on

 

[flyingkytez]

Looks like they are trying to build hype..

 

[ddorrjr]

I think Samsung has done enough to themselves to give LG enough cushion to release when they are ready. If the reviews are good enough, people will buy it.

 

[Breuklen]

LG is not worried about the competition, but rather wants to improve on the V10 sales. With vast improvements and design cues from the G5, they'll more than do that. Could they have a more polished rollout? Sure. Ultimately all that will matter is a successful rollout. Reviews and early buzz will make or break this device.

 

[marcelcabrerajr]

thanks *rushmore*!

I agree with you with many of your opinions.

Depth of field will be a tough technology to *perfect* on a smartphone. Until they find a way to fit a telephoto lens inside a smartphone similar to how an actual DSLR/SLE telephoto lens with a good compression works to get beautiful bokeh, most will need to have software compliment it.

I just tested my LG V10, and my s7 edge... and shooting up close with a subject near the smartphone in focus actually produces decent depth of field, but the real test will be when you can take it from a further camera to subject distance ratio.

Apple is attacking that market and doing a fairly good job with it by utlizing software style blur but in a way that will mimic blur similar to DSLR quality.

I returned my Note 7, but did not get a replacement. After getting an s7 edge and Note 7, the ONLY feature that I love in the samsung phones compared to my former LG V10, is the Dual Pixel AutoFocus. The iPhone 6/6s/Plus have very slow autofocus and is only ideal in specific situations that Phase Detection works best in. I then went to the LG V10 (was a former g4 user) and loved the Laser Autofocus.. BUT until i tried the S7 Edge and Note 7... their was absolutely NO COMPARISON with autofocus speed.. and as much as I have tried to screw up the autofocusing.. it's pretty much on point and focuses faster than any smartphone i have tried. Now if only the v20 could do that!

Because i have identical twin boys and always have my hands full and can't always bring out my Nikon D810 or D750 to film them in Cinematic 24P mode... the LGV20 is the next best thing with top of the line audio that is very hard to come by in professional cinematography unless you have a stand alone recorder with a lav mic or a boom mic.

 

[rushmore]

Looking forward to testing the V20 Please be cautious though perhaps around moisture. I posted a thread about this since it struck me as odd how apparently easy it might seem to cause the device to fail. Seems perhaps the design should have had a gasket on the cover or in the frame due to the cover design & metal.

Hoping it is a fluke Just wish it came out earlier to see for myself and compare now. The replacement Note 7 though almost seems like a Note 7.5, since faster and even better battery life. The same guy in the pod cast points this out as well. One good thing about the Note 7 is high water resistance. I guess it is a case of picking your poison

A case should be a good way to mitigate water exposure. The way the guy describes how it happened seems odd though.

The apparent battery life though might not be very good, but a spare battery on hand covers that.

 

[cactuspete23]

Looking forward to seeing the V20 to hear the audio myself !

 

[Mooncatt]

Because i have identical twin boys and always have my hands full and can't always bring out my Nikon D810 or D750 to film them in Cinematic 24P mode... the LGV20 is the next best thing with top of the line audio that is very hard to come by in professional cinematography unless you have a stand alone recorder with a lav mic or a boom mic.

I started a general photography thread in the AC Lounge section if you feel like discussing this stuff more. I've had an eye on the Nikon d7200 when I get ready to upgrade, but that means essentially starting over from scratch.

 

[RaRa85]

I started a general photography thread in the AC Lounge section if you feel like discussing this stuff more. I've had an eye on the Nikon d7200 when I get ready to upgrade, but that means essentially starting over from scratch.

Nice. What do you shoot with now? I've been getting by with a lowly Samsung NX1000 but I think I'm going to go with the Nikon D5300 next them go with a Sony mirrorless last. I do a tiny bit of photography as a hobby. Also I want to try focus stacking with the V20 when I get it.

 

[Mooncatt]

Nice. What do you shoot with now? I've been getting by with a lowly Samsung NX1000 but I think I'm going to go with the Nikon D5300 next them go with a Sony mirrorless last. I do a tiny bit of photography as a hobby. Also I want to try focus stacking with the V20 when I get it.

I'm currently using an Olympus E-500. It's a DSLR, but at about ten years old, I can honestly say my G4 bests it in many ways. Lol. The reason I'm eying up the D7200 is because I want to play with light painting more and also do good action shots. My current one has just way too much noise at long exposures, and it was really pushed to its limits trying to shoot a charity trucking convoy and getting a shot of all 204 trucks as they went by at highway speeds (not to mention through a chain link fence). Still, I only paid $100 for it, two lenses, and a few little accessories when most sellers are asking $200. So not like I really have much room to complain. Lol

I thought about the D5300 for the flippy screen and because it also comes in that reddish maroon color, but the D7200 is supposed to have better focus tracking and low light performance. I haven't been much of a fan of mirrorless cameras so far. I just like the feel of traditional DSLR's more. I was actually disappointed when I found out Olympus isn't in the DSLR market anymore. That E-500 has been great to use, able to adjust most everything without ever having to pull my eye away from the viewfinder.