LG Nexus 5 Specs: Snapdragon 808, 5.2 1080p, 3GB RAM, 2700mah battery

[getbretweir]

Understand fully what your saying. The only reason "optimize" is keyword because there devices that back that explain. There are examples why bigger battery is not always better. So what it comes down to is industry trend is bigger but thinners devices. This means smaller and non removable battery. Then have device for example the note line showing they can decrease battery size and go non removable but still have same great battery life. Furthermore that battery life be practically same on 1-5 Note. This equal "optimization" so people just tend to back on optimization rather than a bigger battery because industry is not going bigger with batteries.

Optimization is just runner up for sell X device didn't get bigger battery but X device with optimization proved it can be done on smaller battery.

yeah I get it, and the Note is the exception to the rule.

all I'm saying, and this is my point, is why can't batteries be bigger in addition to the optimization? OK great, they figured out how to squeeze an extra hour SOT into the same size battery. why not then, in addition to, include a bigger battery?

why does it have to be one or the other?

 

[bunique4life05]

yeah I get it, and the Note is the exception to the rule.

all I'm saying, and this is my point, is why can't batteries be bigger in addition to the optimization? OK great, they figured out how to squeeze an extra hour SOT into the same size battery. why not then, in addition to, include a bigger battery?

why does it have to be one or the other?

Because of industry trend of phones with bigger displays but still thin equals small batteries unfortunately. The general public wants thin and sexy beyond demands of being able to fit a bigger battery. Physically the industry doesn't have technology or it just not cost effective adventure to have both a thin device with huge battery. The optimization would be same on X phone with small battery compared to X phone bigger battery. The issue is they can't get bigger battery in form factor the public demands right now.

 

[getbretweir]

Because of industry trend of phones with bigger displays but still thin equals small batteries unfortunately. The general public wants thin and sexy beyond demands of being able to fit a bigger battery. Physically the industry doesn't have technology or it just not cost effective adventure to have both a thin device with huge battery. The optimization would be same on X phone with small battery compared to X phone bigger battery. The issue is they can't get bigger battery in form factor the public demands right now.

I agree, you're 100% right, and these companies aren't stupid. they have data we're not privy to and it obviously indicates exactly what you said, that "normal" people walk into their carrier store and buy on aesthetics, and clearly thin phones trump bigger batteries. I can't argue that point.

I just think they're going overboard. Even the iPhone 6S is rumored to have a smaller battery in favor of an almost unnoticeable thinner phone. They'll keep going until the laws of physics catches up to them I guess.

The same is true with 4K displays, which will also dominate the market soon. Hopefully one of these days the average consumer will start to favor larger batteries and be willing to accept slightly thicker phones. Maybe a company like HTC will be desperate enough to go against the grain and try to differentiate themselves, and it'll have success that other OEMs will consider.

I think in Asia, and I could be wrong, larger displays and bigger batteries are more of a priority than in the US and elsewhere. Whatever the case, I'll obviously have to suck it up and just hope Doze and M live up to the hype. Also, I've never used quick charge, so that might certainly change my perspective. Whatever the case, my Nexus 4 and S4 aren't gonna last forever, and even though they're still going strong, I'm gonna have to make a decision sooner than later.

I'll most likely grab one of the Nexus phones and the Pure, with the Turbo 2 and Note 5 as possible candidates.

 

[Ry]

Because of industry trend of phones with bigger displays but still thin equals small batteries unfortunately. The general public wants thin and sexy beyond demands of being able to fit a bigger battery. Physically the industry doesn't have technology or it just not cost effective adventure to have both a thin device with huge battery. The optimization would be same on X phone with small battery compared to X phone bigger battery. The issue is they can't get bigger battery in form factor the public demands right now.

Yup.

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[adamgalas1]

What I wish Google would realize is that the Nexus is not, has never been, and will never be a mainstream phone. It's passionate following is the small number of stock android fans that make up a cult following. The kind that spend hours on boards such as these.

THUS Google would do well to here our cries and give us what we want.

3000 mAh minimum battery size for Nexus 5
3500 mAh minimum battery size for Nexus 6

Front facing speakers too.
Decent camera software

That's it, the same complaints/demands/requests every single year.

Doze is apparently the new hotness, that's great. BUT optimization is NEVER an excuse for a small battery.

If a phone can be made to run 24 hours on 1,000 mAh it should still have a 3,000 mAh battery.

We're supposedly living in a golden age of technology, where anything is possible. So why must we always be at the mercy of the thin phone smartphone Nazis who worship at the alter of the iPhone and Johny Ive?

Bottom line is that it doesn't matter what "mainstream" people want. Mainstream people buy iPhones, geeks buy Nexi, and geeks want big batteries AND super optimization.

Why is this so hard to understand? Each year phones are supposed to improve.

So make the battery bigger, the chips more efficient, optimization should be improved = significant battery life improvements.

memory should be gradually moving up in storage as should RAM.

Camera should be decent to start and get better over time, never stand still.

Screen should be getting a wee bit bigger as bezels shrink.

Don't listen to Johny Ive and his "mainstream" fans. Listen to your cult because we are the only ones that are going to buy a Nexus phone. We don't care about "thin" we care about battery size and an optimized OS with good camera software.

 

[bunique4life05]

I think in Asia, and I could be wrong, larger displays and bigger batteries are more of a priority than in the US and elsewhere. Whatever the case, I'll obviously have to suck it up and just hope Doze and M live up to the hype. Also, I've never used quick charge, so that might certainly change my perspective. Whatever the case, my Nexus 4 and S4 aren't gonna last forever, and even though they're still going strong, I'm gonna have to make a decision sooner than later.

I'll most likely grab one of the Nexus phones and the Pure, with the Turbo 2 and Note 5 as possible candidates.

Yep other countries do choose battery over form. If you look at huaweii and other phone manufactors that are not the big four. They have lot more options for bigger battery life because party life more priority for those outside the US.

 

[bunique4life05]

What I wish Google would realize is that the Nexus is not, has never been, and will never be a mainstream phone. It's passionate following is the small number of stock android fans that make up a cult following. The kind that spend hours on boards such as these.

THUS Google would do well to here our cries and give us what we want.

3000 mAh minimum battery size for Nexus 5
3500 mAh minimum battery size for Nexus 6

Front facing speakers too.
Decent camera software

That's it, the same complaints/demands/requests every single year.

Doze is apparently the new hotness, that's great. BUT optimization is NEVER an excuse for a small battery.

If a phone can be made to run 24 hours on 1,000 mAh it should still have a 3,000 mAh battery.

We're supposedly living in a golden age of technology, where anything is possible. So why must we always be at the mercy of the thin phone smartphone Nazis who worship at the alter of the iPhone and Johny Ive?

Bottom line is that it doesn't matter what "mainstream" people want. Mainstream people buy iPhones, geeks buy Nexi, and geeks want big batteries AND super optimization.

Why is this so hard to understand? Each year phones are supposed to improve.

So make the battery bigger, the chips more efficient, optimization should be improved = significant battery life improvements.

memory should be gradually moving up in storage as should RAM.

Camera should be decent to start and get better over time, never stand still.

Screen should be getting a wee bit bigger as bezels shrink.

Don't listen to Johny Ive and his "mainstream" fans. Listen to your cult because we are the only ones that are going to buy a Nexus phone. We don't care about "thin" we care about battery size and an optimized OS with good camera software.

Google makes Nexus phones for the Devs and happen sell more for sake of Google fandom. Nexus is a sandbox tool to Google it's not product for profit but for change. The Nexus line is tool to show off case Android OS, a blue print to where they want Android ecosystem and how they mobile industry sell mobile devices. They are not in it to make Nexus phones to appeal masses or even "geeks" (not same as devs) the decisions they make for Nexus is based on cost and improvement of Android OS.


If Google chooses to make Nexus on bigger screen is because they want to optimize next Android OS for different form factors. If they add finger print reader it's to build code right into Android so next line products of OEM manufactors can have simplified code to follow. If Google lowers mp on camera or mah on battery or go with last gen chipset it's because of cost.


Google increasing the mp on camera, having latest chipset or more ram on a Nexus device doesn't push the Android OS ecosystem for Devs or OEMs. So Google it's just not necessary for them to put it in Nexus line. I am fine with that they make solid products they are not best at anything but still good overall phone if your a not dev.

If I could put perspective with brief look at all Google's Nexus products there was distinct reason why did what they did. The first Nexus phone was to show that there another way to buy smartphone then going to carrier.

The Galaxy Nexus was to provide unlock phone between carriers and experiment with soft key buttons and curved display.

The Nexus 7 was to show that tablets at small size are viable to mobile market and second tablets could be affordable. The Nexus 4 and 5 was push mobile provide unlock low cost phones with good specs.

The Nexus 6 was to push provide high device unlocked at lower cost and optimize Android on bigger display.

The Nexus 9 was built same principal as Nexus 6 but a 64bit tablet version with a optional keyboard.

The Nexus 10 was the precursor to the Nexus 6 and 9 stood for.

Now my lengthy explanation may not change your frustration but hopefully just see whole situation in different perspective.

 

[jimbo1mcm]

Love my Nexus 6 but it is a 32GB Verizon and I am looking for a phone with similar specs but 64GB with a Micro SD. Most of what I want will come in the Moto Pure. I have to give up wireless charging but I can get a colorful leather back. Or I can wait and see what Verizon does with the Droid Turbo 2. In any event, 32GB in the LG Nexus won't work for me.

 

[getbretweir]

What I wish Google would realize is that the Nexus is not, has never been, and will never be a mainstream phone. It's passionate following is the small number of stock android fans that make up a cult following. The kind that spend hours on boards such as these.

THUS Google would do well to here our cries and give us what we want.

3000 mAh minimum battery size for Nexus 5
3500 mAh minimum battery size for Nexus 6

Front facing speakers too.
Decent camera software

That's it, the same complaints/demands/requests every single year.

Doze is apparently the new hotness, that's great. BUT optimization is NEVER an excuse for a small battery.

If a phone can be made to run 24 hours on 1,000 mAh it should still have a 3,000 mAh battery.

We're supposedly living in a golden age of technology, where anything is possible. So why must we always be at the mercy of the thin phone smartphone Nazis who worship at the alter of the iPhone and Johny Ive?

Bottom line is that it doesn't matter what "mainstream" people want. Mainstream people buy iPhones, geeks buy Nexi, and geeks want big batteries AND super optimization.

Why is this so hard to understand? Each year phones are supposed to improve.

So make the battery bigger, the chips more efficient, optimization should be improved = significant battery life improvements.

memory should be gradually moving up in storage as should RAM.

Camera should be decent to start and get better over time, never stand still.

Screen should be getting a wee bit bigger as bezels shrink.

Don't listen to Johny Ive and his "mainstream" fans. Listen to your cult because we are the only ones that are going to buy a Nexus phone. We don't care about "thin" we care about battery size and an optimized OS with good camera software.

completely agree. the only thing I'd add is it's possible Nexus is trying to go mainstream considering Fi.

that said, and it's still possible, albeit unlikely, maybe they'll throw us a bone and the Hauwei version will be for us "geeks" and we'll get at least the 3500 battery you mentioned.

 

[AllenRulz]

It's disappointing that the port might not be the new USB3 technology where the fast charging is there and stuff. They said it might be just a reworked USB2.0 on the type C for the Nexus 5 (2015)

 

[getbretweir]

It's disappointing that the port might not be the new USB3 technology where the fast charging is there and stuff. They said it might be just a reworked USB2.0 on the type C for the Nexus 5 (2015)

what do u mean when you say a "reworked USB 2.0 on the type C?"

2.0 seems like there aren't many benefits, and it's actually old technology. I was hoping for 3.1, but at least 3.0

 

[AllenRulz]

what do u mean when you say a "reworked USB 2.0 on the type C?"

2.0 seems like there aren't many benefits, and it's actually old technology. I was hoping for 3.1, but at least 3.0

http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...splay-3gb-ram-2700mah-battery-usb-c-and-more/

" Speaking of power, the LG-made Nexus will indeed have a type C USB port, but we don't know if it's just a reworked USB2.0 configuration or an actual USB3 device."

 

[getbretweir]

http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...splay-3gb-ram-2700mah-battery-usb-c-and-more/

" Speaking of power, the LG-made Nexus will indeed have a type C USB port, but we don't know if it's just a reworked USB2.0 configuration or an actual USB3 device."

do you know what that means though? does it mean that it's modified in some way? if so, I didn't know that was possible. unless it's 3.0/3.1 it's hard to get excited about

 

[AllenRulz]

do you know what that means though? does it mean that it's modified in some way? if so, I didn't know that was possible. unless it's 3.0/3.1 it's hard to get excited about

Too me it sounds like it might be some modded type C running 2.0. I'm just really not interested in this phone anymore. F'n sucks. It's like nothing is exciting me. I'm seriously going to just enjoy Marshmallow on current device and get a wireless charger to fix my bad port issue on my Nexus 5 and wait for the Nexus in 2016 with hopefully the Snapdragon 820 and much bigger battery. And also 3.1 USB.

 

[Crashdamage]

I have no idea why there is there is this theory that Nexus phones cannot be and never will be mainstream devices. What's so different about Nexus phones? They're no more different in hardware or software than a Note 5 or a G4 or a Moto X. Those are all 'different' in some way. Or a S6 Edge. Does the edge display mean it's too different to ever become a mainstream device? Is vanilla Android too different? Is Touchwiz too different? The Nexus line is just another line of phones with various hardware specs, just like any manufacturer's line of phones is. There's nothing radical about them.

The Nexus phones can and will become mainstream devices IF Google decides they want them to be. It's just about marketing. Not about the hardware. Not about vanilla Android. It's just about marketing. If Google ever decides to throw major money into a Nexus marketing campaign, you'll quickly see that Nexus phones can compete with anyone's.

 

[getbretweir]

I have no idea why there is there is this theory that Nexus phones cannot be and never will be mainstream devices. What's so different about Nexus phones? They're no more different in hardware or software than a Note 5 or a G4 or a Moto X. Those are all 'different' in some way. Or a S6 Edge. Does the edge display mean it's too different to ever become a mainstream device? Is vanilla Android too different? Is Touchwiz too different? The Nexus line is just another line of phones with various hardware specs, just like any manufacturer's line of phones is. There's nothing radical about them.

The Nexus phones can and will become mainstream devices IF Google decides they want them to be. It's just about marketing. Not about the hardware. Not about vanilla Android. It's just about marketing. If Google ever decides to throw major money into a Nexus marketing campaign, you'll quickly see that Nexus phones can compete with anyone's.

agreed. the only thing that world change would be there'd have to be an increase in price to pay for that marketing. I actually think they will try and push it mainstream cause of Fi ... considering they'll make money on the service, they would probably still try and keep the price low by narrowing their margins, just to get it in as many hands as possible.

 

[getbretweir]

Too me it sounds like it might be some modded type C running 2.0. I'm just really not interested in this phone anymore. F'n sucks. It's like nothing is exciting me. I'm seriously going to just enjoy Marshmallow on current device and get a wireless charger to fix my bad port issue on my Nexus 5 and wait for the Nexus in 2016 with hopefully the Snapdragon 820 and much bigger battery. And also 3.1 USB.

yeah 2015 has undoubtedly been a disappointing year, played by bad processors, thin phones, small batteries, and head scratching decisions (moto pure having a smaller battery then play, S6 battery, M9 lack of change, OP2 having no NFC or quick charge).

 

[Alex_NJ]

At the moment they are seen as almost prototype/beta phones

 

[Cakefish]

2014 was disappointing too.

 

[mookiekillsit]

I know my man, I'm just messing around and I hear ya ... agreed, mAh doesn't tell the whole story, but there's only so much you can get from 2700 mAh ... we keep going back and forth on the same issue, so I'll agree to disagree, but there's two issues I have. the first is, let's just say you're right, and Google magically improves battery life, let's say by 33%. OK great, so then we're taking about instead of 3 hours SOT we get 4. personally, that doesn't excite me. if that's good for you, great, but for me it doesn't work.

just like I might be fine with a certain camera, and u would expect more, I'm not fine with 4 hours SOT, I wish I was, but I'm just not and I'm not gonna pretend to be content.

point 2, and my MAIN issue. let's assume that 33% holds true (insert: I do believe M will produce better battery life. not sure by how much, but I don't question that) ... instead of using a 2700 mAh battery and settling for a slight increase, how about jacking it up to 3500 and getting in the 6 hours range? I mean, why not? is a 2mm thinner phone that important?

also, I've read a post from you claiming a full day, almost 2 days it would last you. I don't remember the exact post, but the point is, if you can even mention 24 hours, let alone closer to 2 days, on ANY phone either currently being used on Android in the US, or any rumored device, then we clearly have very different usage patterns.

I want 2 things, stock and a full days charge. I'm realizing that isn't gonna happen, and I'll adjust accordingly, but you keep mentioning efficiency, quite honestly, is insulting. if u think I'm gonna wait for reviews or to see M before reaching the conclusion that 2700 is nowhere near sufficient, that's just not gonna happen.

I like how we can take nonserious jabs at each other for our major wants.

I get that a 2700 mAH SEEMS limited but honestly, people have been ******** about batteries since the inception of smart phones yet companies have still not designed a phone/battery that can last even three days off charge (not in power saving modes). Why? I think people are honestly chasing the impossible dream. What these companies are seemingly doing is building a phone and it's components to last a full day so that the user can charge the phone over night.

I can also get 5 hours of SOT w/ my phone easily. Turn the brightness down and don't play battery hogging games or watch tons of videos. I can also kill a battery in two hours if I wanted. I also agree that thinness of phones is extremely overrated and I can understand your thoughts there. What I also appreciate is the fact that I'm not a phone engineer and won't pretend to be one. Maybe the other components simply won't work w/ a battery that is that big. Maybe the fittings will be too far off, I'm not sure. It is a valid point and I would also like an answer but I'm not going to throw a fit over it.

I can last a full day w/ ease w/ my phone but there's also the fact that a charger is never far away from me. Most of the time I'm at my house or work and there's chargers literally flying all over the place lol.

I think the Droid Turbo would give you a full days charge unless you're a heavy power user. I also wouldn't get too up in arms just yet regarding the mAH of a battery on this device especially if there's turbo charging available.