Majority of Android phones are not "junk" phones

And why does anyone need those kind of speeds on a phone? No practical use, IMO.

6 years ago, a 1gHz processor was deemed unnecessary and thought that it'd never be practical because a phone wasn't a device for any heavy usage. When the Dell Streak came out, a 5 inch screen was way too big for practical use and there's no way something like that would catch on. That's said of a lot of things but they become useful for some purpose or another. That said, what kind of mobile carrier offers those kinds of speeds? Verizon here caps at about 25 download and 12 upload.
 
6 years ago, a 1gHz processor was deemed unnecessary and thought that it'd never be practical because a phone wasn't a device for any heavy usage. When the Dell Streak came out, a 5 inch screen was way too big for practical use and there's no way something like that would catch on. That's said of a lot of things but they become useful for some purpose or another. That said, what kind of mobile carrier offers those kinds of speeds? Verizon here caps at about 25 download and 12 upload.

That's right. But I just don't see a need for that kind of speed, when 30Mb/s on a desktop PC will do anything done that you need as fast as you need it. Well, for the average user, anyway.
 
That's right. But I just don't see a need for that kind of speed, when 30Mb/s on a desktop PC will do anything done that you need as fast as you need it. Well, for the average user, anyway.

Everyone has different needs. Perhaps the average user doesn't need it. But with downloading, the additional speed helps. Especially because I am on the unlimited data and unlimited hotspot plan.

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You could just as easily say that about any of the iOS features...so what?

Do you really "need" a perfect smooth UI experience to use your phone?

I was only talking about the speed, but you have to turn everything into android versus iOS. Reaching much?


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Everyone has different needs. Perhaps the average user doesn't need it. But with downloading, the additional speed helps. Especially because I am on the unlimited data and unlimited hotspot plan.

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That is understandable. But if the source that you're downloading from is not that fast, then it doesn't matter what your speed is.


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That is understandable. But if the source that you're downloading from is not that fast, then it doesn't matter what your speed is.


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Sure but I am downloading from multiple sources at once via multiple devices through the hotspot function

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Sure but I am downloading from multiple sources at once via multiple devices through the hotspot function

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Yeah, I probably wouldn't pay for internet at home if I had that.
 
Sure but I am downloading from multiple sources at once via multiple devices through the hotspot function

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Then it it what you need.


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I was only talking about the speed, but you have to turn everything into android versus iOS. Reaching much?
Your arguments seem awfully arbitrary.

And yes, everything is iOS vs Android...those are the only two OS's that matter. No one cares about any of the others anymore, and marketshare numbers reflect that.
 
Your arguments seem awfully arbitrary.

And yes, everything is iOS vs Android...those are the only two OS's that matter. No one cares about any of the others anymore, and marketshare numbers reflect that.

The 4 percent are still people. Given the percentage that updated to a version of the OS that is in a beta stage, I'd say a people more knowledgeable about the product.
 
The 4 percent are still people. Given the percentage that updated to a version of the OS that is in a beta stage, I'd say a people more knowledgeable about the product.

Don't shoot the messenger. All excuses aside, thats the reality. The vast majority of people with smartphones don't own Windows phones and probably don't care about them.

I don't see that changing until WP at least gets into double digits...which probably won't happen in the foreseeable future.
 
I'm a bit confused. Most sources say that Android devices have sold or activated about a billion devices total. This chart shows 211 million sold in just 1 quarter of 2013, which is 21% of the total since the inception of Android. That looks fishy to me, as according to those numbers they would hit a billion in about 1 year. Am I looking at this wrong (it is early:))?
 

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I'm a bit confused. Most sources say that Android devices have sold or activated about a billion devices total. This chart shows 211 million sold in just 1 quarter of 2013, which is 21% of the total since the inception of Android. That looks fishy to me, as according to those numbers they would hit a billion in about 1 year. Am I looking at this wrong (it is early:))?

Yeah 2013 had about 750 million and it's accelerating. The last figure (we'll get a new one next Wednesday) was 1.5 million activations per day. If the 1 billion is cumulative activations, that means the billion mark was probably hit in February of this year. The Q4 2013 number was slightly higher at 226 million, but Q1 and Q2 were both below 200 mm and all quarters were gigantic growth figures over 2012.

I'm not sure what everyone is using for the billion number, but articles like this one: Android device shipments to top 1 billion this year -- Gartner - CNET are saying they'll ship 1 to 1.1 billion devices during 2014, not by the end of it from product inception.
 
I'm a bit confused. Most sources say that Android devices have sold or activated about a billion devices total.
No, that sounds about right.

Google reaches 50 million activations in 2010
http://www.asymco.com/2011/12/21/how-many-android-phones-have-been-activated/

Google reaches 100 million activations - 2011
http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/10/google-reaches-100-millionth-android-activation-400-000-android/

Google reaches 500 million activations - 2012
http://mashable.com/2012/09/12/500-million-android-devices-activated/

Google reaches 1 billion activations - 2013
http://phandroid.com/2013/09/03/android-device-activations-1-billion/

The number of devices being activated daily has been steadily increasing since 2010, which is why it might seem to be increasing so fast. As of last summer is was around 1.5 million a day. Android is popular, what can I say. Flexibility has it's benefits.
 
I'm not doubting the billion. What I am questioning is that it took from 2009 till 2013 to reach that number, and then over 20% of that is sold in three months of 2013? And I believe that the Google activation numbers include tablets, whereas the chart is phones.. Do you see what I am saying? Help me to understand.
 
I'm not sure what everyone is using for the billion number, but articles like this one: Android device shipments to top 1 billion this year -- Gartner - CNET are saying they'll ship 1 to 1.1 billion devices during 2014, not by the end of it from product inception.
Google themselves claimed 1 billion activations as of Sept 3rd of 2013
https://plus.google.com/+SundarPichai/posts/NeBW7AjT1QM

So it is probably approaching 1.5 billion at this point if it hasn't already. Shipping 800,000 to 1 billion devices in 2014 alone seems about right goven this trend. The IDC already reported 1 billion smartphones shipped in 2013 alone. And Android accounted for most of those. Samsung alone accounted for about 300 million of those.

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Thats just smartphones, not tablets.
 
I'm not doubting the billion. What I am questioning is that it took from 2009 till 2013 to reach that number, and then over 20% of that is sold in three months of 2013?
Yep...that makes perfect sense. Activations have been increasing dramatically since 2009. In 2014 alone there will be almost as many Android devices activated as were activated in 2009 to 2013. If current trends continue.

I agree it sounds unbelievable. Even I am in awe of Android's massive success sometimes.

And I believe that the Google activation numbers include tablets, whereas the chart is phones.
They do. Which is why it is even more impressive...the chart is just smartphones.

Keep in mind these are worldwide figures, not just the US. China especially has seen massive growth in Android devices and that did not really get going till 2013 or maybe 2012.
 

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