March 10!!!

[VideoEngineerAJS]

Couple of things... that makes the assumption they hit March 10th. Who is to say that their original plan for March 10th would have even held up without the delays?

The other thing about this that's bizarre is that Verizon cannot accelerate their delivery of new devices. That's kind of troubling for a company as large as VZW and with all the resources they have to make these things happen.

As for "buffers".. those are murder in business. "Buffers" cost money and time and resources. You want to get a device out the door as expeditiously as possible so the resources you have frozen on that product can be rolled to the next (and so on).

Could March 10th be right? Yeah, it sure could be. But a broken clock is right twice a day.

Okay, a couple of things for you. Which wireless company is in as big of a transition period as Verizon right now?... The only transition AT&T is currently in is convincing people that their HSPA+ network is "4G" and just as good as all the others.

Verizon on the other hand is in the process of upgrading their ENTIRE network. True their LTE network may still not be "real" 4G, but it's a whole lot closer than anyone else.

When you are in a huge transition period like Verizon and you want to make things right and not rush things out because you don't want your reputation ruined, there has to be buffers. If this were just another 3G phone launch or something I would agree with you, but this is a whole new ballgame here.

Heck AT&T rushed the Atrix out to "beat" Verizon and it's having issues with the network speeds and they didn't even have to deal with LTE issues.

 

[Cory Streater]

I'm sticking with my April prediction.

But a broken clock is right twice a day.

That's an awesome line. I'm totally going to start using it.

i think the best part from all of this is that Verizon never lied, never led anybody on with a delay. the phone was never officially given a launch day, nor has it been anything other than a "rumored" launch day

Just like with the Droid X, OG Droid, Incredible...thy began airing ads weeks prior to launch. I think everyone just needs to sit back, let Verizon announce it, then accept THAT date.

I couldn't have said this any better.

Mine is on the 17th. Lots of Pisces on this board.

March 2nd here. A lot of astrologists say "Pisces either turn to drugs or religion"

 

[gunner252]

i think the best part from all of this is that Verizon never lied, never led anybody on with a delay. the phone was never officially given a launch day, nor has it been anything other than a "rumored" launch day

Just like with the Droid X, OG Droid, Incredible...thy began airing ads weeks prior to launch. I think everyone just needs to sit back, let Verizon announce it, then accept THAT date.

Agreed. There's nothing else we can do. It's not worth getting all pissy over 'rumored' launch dates. It'll come out when it comes out. And hopefully it won't require updating/patches to fix a bunch of bugs, out of the gate.

 

[ncbryan]

Going with the 3rd......or the 10th.....That picture floating around of the BB release dates looks legit.

 

[bberrynewbie84]

March 10 is ok because my tax refunds come in around that time,so yay!

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[azdmelani]

March 10 is ok because my tax refunds come in around that time,so yay!

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Mine are already here burning a hole in my pocket....

 

[sc32valve]

I think it's convenient that its March 10th, exactly 1 month after the Iphone release. We've definitely seen 1 month exclusivity agreements before. Maybe that was the plan all along.

 

[dt]

i think that it's amusing that the incredible S, announced at MWC, previously expected in 2Q11 is releasing this week in the UK... meanwhile, the thunderbolt is still MIA... not due for release at all ^^... anybody think the tb would have launched 'on time' if it was being launched by AT&T?

 

[paulmike3]

That picture floating around of the BB release dates looks legit.

Disagree 100%. It looks about as bogus as they come. It's OLD, and probably fake. Leading 0 on only one date? Hmmmmmm.

 

[VideoEngineerAJS]

i think that it's amusing that the incredible S, announced at MWC, previously expected in 2Q11 is releasing this week in the UK... meanwhile, the thunderbolt is still MIA... not due for release at all ^^... anybody think htc would have launched 'on time' if it was being launched by AT&T?

Did you not read my previous post? AT&T is not in any sort of transition right now. Releasing an HSPA+ "4G" phone is not the same as releasing an LTE phone.

AT&T rushed the Atrix and didn't fix the handshake issue with HSPA+ and it's having speed issues right now. I'd rather have a good and a true next generation phone than a dual core that is marketed as 4G that's not getting speeds any faster than 3G.

 

[thedeceiver]

Disagree 100%. It looks about as bogus as they come. It's OLD, and probably fake. Leading 0 on only one date? Hmmmmmm.

I actually thought about making a rip off of that one showing an April 3rd date.. but I realized the 5 minutes in MS Word that it would take to create it was not worth it.

 

[dt]

well, technically speaking, VZW's LTE as it is now doesn't provide "true" 4G speeds either, so it's not much different, they're all 3.5G technically speaking... and at this point in time, it's too late to make hardware changes i imagine, so it's likely to be software related

and my thought is more along the lines of, as company, does AT&T do a better job launching phones than verizon? true, their network is not up to par and i havent really been in touch with their launches lately, but i do know that VZW has really fell short a couple of times already regarding launching new phones... and while this is their first LTE phone, the LTE network has been up and running for quite some time already

 

[paulmike3]

I actually thought about making a rip off of that one showing an April 3rd date.. but I realized the 5 minutes in MS Word that it would take to create it was not worth it.

I know. This stuff is so easy to fake, since no one cares about the source as long as they hear something they like. Sort of like the pics and "release date" from the dude at the "VIP" event, or the "jay" character that is God's gift to androidforums.com cause he's mops floors at BB. You can make up anything you want, have someone agree or thank you and suddenly you are an expert and can say no wrong, and have people living their lives hanging on your every word. It's sad. :-\

 

[dt]

well, people enjoy speculating, they want to have something they can think about, while realistically speaking, getting it now... a week later... or a month later isnt a big deal in the grand scheme of things, ppl just want something to talk about

still, would it have hurt verizon to provide an announcement? although, right now, i think to some extent, verizon is making the right business decision, if they are truly able to provide working skype and fix the handshake problems, but the bottom line is, aside from skype and LTE, what does the TB offer that's new?

 

[Cyber Warrior]

Disagree 100%. It looks about as bogus as they come. It's OLD, and probably fake. Leading 0 on only one date? Hmmmmmm.

What I also don't understand is... they have phones with release dates from last year. Which means that paper was either printed from last year or they changed the date and reprinted it. Does BB normally keep records with phones that launched from last year with only one phone that's launching this year? Don't know... but something doesn't look right. Not saying its not legit but at this point I'm not believing anything I read on this phone anymore unless its an official announcement. I could easily Photoshop something like that and start spreading rumors also.
Either way... whether its March 3/4 or 10th..... an announcement should be coming real soon.

 

[gunner252]

I honestly don't mind waiting (again, no official launch date has been given), if it means something like this won't happen...

To get upgraded to LTE, your Motorola XOOM must be returned to the factory - Phone Arena

I'd rather wait until the bugs/issues are fixed (assuming that's why Vzw hasn't officially given a launch date), than get the phone in my hands earlier, only to have to deal with a bunch of b.s.

 

[VideoEngineerAJS]

I know. This stuff is so easy to fake, since no one cares about the source as long as they hear something they like. Sort of like the pics and "release date" from the dude at the "VIP" event, or the "jay" character that is God's gift to androidforums.com cause he's mops floors at BB. You can make up anything you want, have someone agree or thank you and suddenly you are an expert and can say no wrong, and have people living their lives hanging on your every word. It's sad. :-\

Well obviously the skeptics do the same thing. The skeptics are the ones b*tching and moaning about Verizon not launching the phone sooner or "delaying" the launch because of these rumored dates and they get mad at Verizon and say that Verizon is to blame.

I for one am really excited about this phone and when it comes I'll be happy to go get it. Until then I'll deal with my Storm. Waiting longer or jumping ship to another phone or carrier isn't going to make things any better. The phone will come and if comes on the 10th then good, if it comes earlier, that's even better.

 

[VideoEngineerAJS]

well, people enjoy speculating, they want to have something they can think about, while realistically speaking, getting it now... a week later... or a month later isnt a big deal in the grand scheme of things, ppl just want something to talk about

still, would it have hurt verizon to provide an announcement? although, right now, i think to some extent, verizon is making the right business decision, if they are truly able to provide working skype and fix the handshake problems, but the bottom line is, aside from skype and LTE, what does the TB offer that's new?

Well LTE is a big deal. It's not just making their current network faster, it's a completely new system and a total upgrade. LTE isn't "real" 4G, but it's a totally new technology.

Dealing with LTE for straight LTE devices is different than dealing with LTE for a device that can do both EVDO and LTE and then add to the fact that the Thunderbolt has SVDO which enables simultaneous voice and data over CDMA.

 

[thedeceiver]

Well LTE is a big deal. It's not just making their current network faster, it's a completely new system and a total upgrade. LTE isn't "real" 4G, but it's a totally new technology.

Dealing with LTE for straight LTE devices is different than dealing with LTE for a device that can do both EVDO and LTE and then add to the fact that the Thunderbolt has SVDO which enables simultaneous voice and data over CDMA.

All valid points. However, LTE/SVDO/EVDO drama is Verizon's making. They need to get out a faster network to stay competitive with the other major carriers so they can't wait till the vast majority of their network is LTE (majority measured by coverage area and not population).

 

[am4966]

I'm curious if this is a legit photo of a list of phones from Best Buy. Then why dont they have the Vortex listed on there? Didnt that come out in like December? They sell the Vortex...