My Rant on the iPhone 5s

[Farish]

My understanding is that the fingerprint scanner can tell whether the finger is real or not, or attached to a living person.

I wonder if anybody is willing to test this properly lol.....

 

[Quis89]

It's not really that secure, anyone with a black and white scan of your finger on a piece of paper can get into your phone.

Lol...please tell me how many people have a black and white scan of your finger. You're reaching...and Android is full of quite a few more gimmicks than this.

Keep in mind I was no where near impressed with this release nor was I impressed with the 5. But this reason might be the most hilarious to me...smh...


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[jschu22]

No no, there's ways. Granted nobody would go that far, but there's ways. And either way, it was just released today. Give me a break, I'm not going to read up on a fingerprint scanner. I would trust that the information is right, but that's obviously not the case. Apparently it's harder to fool than I previously thought.

Sure there are ways. Someone could defeat the feature with a gun... to the owners head.

Keep standing behind your defeated point.

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[Quis89]

That's sort of why it's not that big of a deal. There will be a ton of different 64-bit smartphones before the software starts to take advantage of it. Incorporating it earlier than necessary isn't really innovation, it's just a product road map that wasn't super well thought out.

Like NFC??

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[Kevin OQuinn]

Are we going to continue to focus on just the fingerprint scanner, and how you guys feel about one particular member?

 

[Farish]

Hey guys my N64 only had 4 megabytes of ram but was expandable to 8 megabytes. I guess that 64 bit processor was useless....

 

[jschu22]

I just know I'm more likely to use a "gimmick" like fingerprint scanning to unlock my phone than a gimmick that allows me to swipe through my photo album without touching the screen.

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[JHBThree]

Okay okay calm down a minute. The specs? Mostly minimal, even 64 bit. Samsung and Qualcomm are making processors that are much more powerful without the 64 bit aspect. And, seeing 64 bit is coming to Android phones within the next year like Kevin said, it will only be exclusive to Apple for a small amount of time. These updates are mostly minimal, I mean the iPhone 4s? That was a terrible upgrade. The only thing that I see even remotely important to the release is the fingerprint scanner. That's probably the only non minimal addition to the phone. The m7 chip was outdone by the Moto X, it's not new technology. It's just Apple playing catch up, but that's what you get when you only release one or two phones a year

Uhm. In case you haven't noticed, apples chips tend to be more powerful than their competition's. The A6 chip was faster than quad cores from Qualcomm, for example. The A7 will be no different.

Also; LOL at apple playing catch up with the M7. This iPhone has been in development for over a year, so it isn't possible for them to be playing catch up with a device that didn't exist at the time.

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[Quis89]

If he didn't know it, he wasn't paying attention. It was all over the place when the 4s was unveiled.

You're wrong. The 5 was actually the last iPhone to get his blessing. Not these phones announced. Please show proof saying otherwise.

http://bgr.com/2012/10/03/iphone-5-final-steve-jobs-approved-apple-phone/

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[garublador]

Like NFC??

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Exactly! The first phone that had NFC didn't really have any advantage over other phones at the time without NFC.

The thing with NFC and Apple isn't that it's the most useful feature in the world, it's that it's relatively easy and inexpensive to implement, it gives you some useful features that seem like things iOS would handle super well but Apple has pretty much ignored it. It's as if they're not implementing it just to spite Android for implementing it first. Apple doesn't like admitting their wrong and when they do they act as if the idea were theirs in the first place.

 

[pappy53]

I am curious to see how they get the 64 bit to work/ be utiluzed with the low memory. That is going to be very interesting. Any theories on this floating around?

It isn't known yet how much memory the 5S will have, as far as I know.

 

[JasW]

Are we going to continue to focus on just the fingerprint scanner, and how you guys feel about one particular member?

No. I still think not enough attention has been paid to the screen size issue. Whatever one's opinion on Touch ID (mine: kinda gimmicky) or 64-bit ARM architecture (mine: not terribly useful at present and/or on a device with less than 4GB of RAM), the fact remains that this phone is stunningly, almost laughably tiny. Why? Perhaps Jobs did lay out a road map that specified only a 4" screen, and nobody at Apple wants to veer off that map. He died the same month the original Note was released; the then-current S2 had "only" a 4.3" screen; perhaps he didn't foresee that larger screens would take off.

As good or great a device as the 5S may be in certain respects, the screen size for me is a total deal breaker.

 

[dad2paisley]

Nothing really new and I had a thought it be this way. I loved my iphone4 til it started to die after over 2.5yrs of heavy use. But I always seem to return to android.

 

[garublador]

It isn't known yet how much memory the 5S will have, as far as I know.

My guess would be that if it had more RAM than the other, current flagship phones then they'd probably highlight that. I could be wrong, but I don't see the logic in hiding a spec that's way better than your competitors.

 

[DroidArmy]

Uhm. In case you haven't noticed, apples chips tend to be more powerful than their competition's. The A6 chip was faster than quad cores from Qualcomm, for example. The A7 will be no different.

Also; LOL at apple playing catch up with the M7. This iPhone has been in development for over a year, so it isn't possible for them to be playing catch up with a device that didn't exist at the time.
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Sure, the iPhone 5 clocked at 1.3 is more powerful than the Galaxy s4 clocked at 1.9. Hahahaha okay whatever makes you happy. And yeah, they are. Motorola released this technology first, although they may not have had it before Apple. Motorola had it first released. Now if Apple had released the phone sooner it could have been different, but they're catching up at the moment.

 

[pappy53]

My guess would be that if it had more RAM than the other, current flagship phones then they'd probably highlight that. I could be wrong, but I don't see the logic in hiding a spec that's way better than your competitors.

Apple has never mentioned RAM or processor specs at any event.

 

[pappy53]

Sure, the iPhone 5 clocked at 1.3 is more powerful than the Galaxy s4 clocked at 1.9. Hahahaha okay whatever makes you happy. And yeah, they are. Motorola released this technology first, although they may not have had it before Apple. Motorola had it first released. Now if Apple had released the phone sooner it could have been different, but they're catching up at the moment.

And the "catch-up" will quickly turn to "surpass".

 

[anon5664829]

Okay okay calm down a minute. The specs? Mostly minimal, even 64 bit. Samsung and Qualcomm are making processors that are much more powerful without the 64 bit aspect. And, seeing 64 bit is coming to Android phones within the next year like Kevin said, it will only be exclusive to Apple for a small amount of time. These updates are mostly minimal, I mean the iPhone 4s? That was a terrible upgrade. The only thing that I see even remotely important to the release is the fingerprint scanner. That's probably the only non minimal addition to the phone. The m7 chip was outdone by the Moto X, it's not new technology. It's just Apple playing catch up, but that's what you get when you only release one or two phones a year

The M7 can track when you are driving or walking and adjusts Apple or Google maps(when Google updates it to take advantage of it) to either mode. Plus you've got it knowing when you are sleeping so it pings the network a whole lot less. The dual flash with the software can produce over 1000 colour and intensity levels. Plus you have basically an 8 ultra pixel camera with HD Slo Mo video and normal video recorded at 120FPS.slo mo is at 60 FPS. The die size and the nm process is smaller therefore it is more efficient and the battery capacity has gotten a slight boost. On top of all that the GPU takes full advantage of the 64 bit computing opportunity a d graphics really look stunning.

Fingerprint scanner is sorta gimmicky right now but it has huge potential. Please don't call the 5S a small upgrade when it isn't.

This was a major upgrade no matter which way you look at it.

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[garublador]

Apple has never mentioned RAM or processor specs at any event.

They've also never had more RAM than other phones at the time. That also points to the phone not having more RAM than can be addressed by 32 bits.

 

[Farish]

Sure, the iPhone 5 clocked at 1.3 is more powerful than the Galaxy s4 clocked at 1.9.

By the way, the i5 Haswell (i5-4670k)quad core at 3.4ghz without hyper threading, runs 20 percent faster than the i7 sandy bridge processor (i7-2700k) quad core at 3.5ghz with Hyperthreading in single threaded applications.

Imagine that.

But you are right.

We should focus 100 percent at numbers and ignore everything else in chip design....