My Rant on the iPhone 5s

[pappy53]

They've also never had more RAM than other phones at the time. That also points to the phone not having more RAM than can be addressed by 32 bits.

Yeah, you're probably right. Apple engineers probably just threw 64-bit on the phone without making any preparations for it. /s
smh

 

[Farish]

I wonder how many of your hypothetical hypocritical selves would have said:

This shows you how XXX Oem Android maker is innovating if they released a 64 bit cpu first.

 

[orlanka]

The M7 knows when you are sleeping, it knows when you're awake, it knows if you've been bad or good so be good for goodness sake.

 

[Farish]

The M7 knows when you are sleeping, it know when you're awake, it knows if you've been bad or good so be good for goodness sake.

Change it to NSA and I am right there with you.

 

[DroidArmy]

By the way, the i5 Haswell (i5-4670k)quad core at 3.4ghz without hyper threading, runs 20 percent faster than the i7 sandy bridge processor (i7-2700k) quad core at 3.5ghz with Hyperthreading in single threaded applications.

Imagine that.

But you are right.

We should focus 100 percent at numbers and ignore everything else in chip design....

I never said that. However, specs don't lie. I know the iPhone's processor is fast from experience, but not faster than the Qualcomm processor in the s4 and certainly not faster than the one in the note 3.

 

[DroidArmy]

The M7 can track when you are driving or walking and adjusts Apple or Google maps(when Google updates it to take advantage of it) to either mode. Plus you've got it knowing when you are sleeping so it pings the network a whole lot less. The dual flash with the software can produce over 1000 colour and intensity levels. Plus you have basically an 8 ultra pixel camera with HD Slo Mo video and normal video recorded at 120FPS.slo mo is at 60 FPS. The die size and the nm process is smaller therefore it is more efficient and the battery capacity has gotten a slight boost. On top of all that the GPU takes full advantage of the 64 bit computing opportunity a d graphics really look stunning.

Fingerprint scanner is sorta gimmicky right now but it has huge potential. Please don't call the 5S a small upgrade when it isn't.

This was a major upgrade no matter which way you look at it.

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A major upgrade for the iPhone yes, but compared to other options it's very minimal.

 

[DroidArmy]

And the "catch-up" will quickly turn to "surpass".

Not necessarily. Apple has the potential, but if they don't step up their game there's no way. They'll just keep falling backwards

 

[Farish]

I never said that. However, specs don't lie. I know the iPhone's processor is fast from experience, but not faster than the Qualcomm processor in the s4 and certainly not faster than the one in the note 3.

You know except for benchmark "optimizations" The processor never runs at 1.9ghz on the S4. Right now I have two cores running at 900 mhz.

 

[DroidArmy]

You know except for benchmark "optimizations" The processor never runs at 1.9ghz on the S4. Right now I have two cores running at 900 mhz.

The iPhone doesn't run at max either. The point still stands, it isn't as fast.

 

[anon(394005)]

IMO, the only spec that really matters at this point is the screen size which is still at 4". So now it will be another year before they might increase it? Too late! Game over man, game over!

 

[garublador]

Yeah, you're probably right. Apple engineers probably just threw 64-bit on the phone without making any preparations for it. /s
smh

So why would they keep having twice as much RAM as their competitors a secret? What's the advantage? They've never mentioned it before because it's never been a differentiator. It's always just had about as much as other phones at the time. If they had twice as much RAM in the 5S as is what's in the S4, One and the new Motorola phones (which is about what they'd need to take advantage of 64-bit processing) why wouldn't they talk about it as another "innovation" that goes along with how awesome 64-bit computing is? Apple has always been very good at marketing, why would they all of a sudden just ignore a stand-out feature during an event where they focus on computing specs?

 

[pappy53]

Not necessarily. Apple has the potential, but if they don't step up their game there's no way. They'll just keep falling backwards

That's just it, they're not falling backwards.

 

[Almeuit]

Yes it is coming to android within the next year. I'm certainly not saying its bad and it doesn't have it's advantages, I'm saying the way Apple made it sound was like it was space technology.

They try to make everything sound like space technology... Look at the iPhone 5C.... It's plastic yet they try and act like it's this new thing lol.

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[NoYankees44]

Actually the 5s is a bigger upgrade over the 5 than the 5 was over the 4. The only really thing they added with the 5 was design(screen). Processor bump and such was not a big deal.

The finger print scanner success will depend on two things. It working 99/100 times without any hiccups, and it reading as quickly as someone pressing the home button. If it is buggy or you have to hold your finger over it longer than a quick press for it to work, then it will be another half baked feature. Something reminiscent of many android failures.

The camera we will have to wait and see if it is all marketing, or if they really did make a noticeable improvement.

The 64bit processor really intrigues me. I am will everyone else to wait and see if the jump is need now or could have been made later.

That being said, I am disappointed not because of what apple delivered, but because i don't really see anything that i want on an android phone lol. I am always rooting for apple to hit one out of the park. That way the next round of android phones will one up them an i can buy that. Now that android phones have caught apple in terms of smoothness and fluidity, they really need something else to push them over the edge. Some other game changing feature or hardware. Something that competition within android will not produce. This didnt happen, and that is why i am a little disappointed.

 

[pappy53]

I posted this elsewhere, but it bears repeating:

Apple phones are designed to do what they do smoothly and consistently, and they do that better than anyone. Also, the updates on iPhones are consistent, and not held back by carriers and fragmentation. What will the S4 be running in 2 years, when the 5S is updating to iOS 9 just 10 days after announcement? Possibly KitKat?
Now I love Androids just as much as anyone, but I will admit that Apple has their stuff together when it comes to satisfying their customers, whether it be timely updates every year or customer support ( which no other phone manufacturer comes close).
Why do you think that they are #1 in customer satisfaction polls year after year?

 

[hodan]

Well, I wouldn't right off 64-bit processing capability so quickly. It's coming to Android next year with the next-gen ARM stuff. It's a big deal as far as forward thinking goes.

But nice rant. You said everything that everyone else has ever said about iPhone's since they started falling behind with the 4S. :thumbs up:

But would you "write" off the 64 bit processor? Lol. It's funny that we've just been through 3 weeks of ranting about how specs don't matter (Moto X anyone?) and the example of that is the iPhone 5. NOW, the iPhone is boasting about it's processor! Fantastic!

Screen remains tiny and childlike.

 

[DroidArmy]

I posted this elsewhere, but it bears repeating:

Apple phones are designed to do what they do smoothly and consistently, and they do that better than anyone. Also, the updates on iPhones are consistent, and not held back by carriers and fragmentation. What will the S4 be running in 2 years, when the 5S is updating to iOS 9 just 10 days after announcement? Possibly KitKat?
Now I love Androids just as much as anyone, but I will admit that Apple has their stuff together when it comes to satisfying their customers, whether it be timely updates every year or customer support ( which no other phone manufacturer comes close).
Why do you think that they are #1 in customer satisfaction polls year after year?

I'll give you that they have excellent customer satisfaction, but nothing else. Android, if used properly, can receive timely updates. All you need is a rooted device and you're good to go. The nexus line automatically gets updates, so there's another option. I personally think the nexus line of phones along with the Moto x is a smoother experience, but that's my opinion.

 

[DroidArmy]

That's just it, they're not falling backwards.

They actually are Pappy. not so much recently, but they still are. They need a bigger screen now to compete with the phones like the Note 3 and Galaxy s4.

 

[anon5664829]

A major upgrade for the iPhone yes, but compared to other options it's very minimal.

That's the whole point. Other flagships made smaller upgrades.

S3-S4 was just as big as the 5-5S leap. I dont care what you think. This was a massive upgrade for phones PERIOD.

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[anon5664829]

They actually are Pappy. not so much recently, but they still are. They need a bigger screen now to compete with the phones like the Note 3 and Galaxy s4.

You think a bigger screen means innovation? Sorry but *head desk*
No Apple is not falling behind.

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