I completely agree. But for Apple, you do. It's because they picked a stupid 3.5 inch layout that's special. You can't scale it up, it would cut off parts. That's why the whole app has to be rescaled. Completely stupid idea on Apple's part, now a lot of the apps use 3.5 inches instead of the full 4 inches on the display. It would have been fine if apple changed the width as well, but they didn't.
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I completely agree. But for Apple, you do. It's because they picked a stupid 3.5 inch layout that's special. You can't scale it up, it would cut off parts. That's why the whole app has to be rescaled. Completely stupid idea on Apple's part, now a lot of the apps use 3.5 inches instead of the full 4 inches on the display. It would have been fine if apple changed the width as well, but they didn't.
And they shouldn't even need to widen the iPhone 5 to make it work; they should have let app designers design apps to scale properly to all screen types. For example, the same app looks fine on both my 15:9 Nexus 4 and my 16:10 Nexus 7.
This is Apple, they're new in this multi sized screen world. It just turns out their first mistake for screens was a big one
You mean to say, it looks fine on your Nexus4 but does not look as good on my Nexus7 compared to what a tablet-optimised app would. Why should I be using a blown-up phone app on a tablet?
An app shouldn't look the same on a phone or a tablet. On a smartphone with a smaller screen, I understand that certain compromises have to be made in the user interface (typically tons of swiping between menus). But on a larger-screened tablet, it shouldn't be the case. Look at the wealth of tablet apps for the ipad and ipad mini. They often sport a better UI (such as an extra menu for faster switching between categories).
I would argue that it is precisely why Apple made phone apps appear like crap on the ipad, that drove developers to completely redesign their existing iphone apps. The end result are separate apps that both look and work great for the iphone and ipad.
You mean to say, it looks fine on your Nexus4 but does not look as good on my Nexus7 compared to what a tablet-optimised app would. Why should I be using a blown-up phone app on a tablet?
An app shouldn't look the same on a phone or a tablet. On a smartphone with a smaller screen, I understand that certain compromises have to be made in the user interface (typically tons of swiping between menus). But on a larger-screened tablet, it shouldn't be the case. Look at the wealth of tablet apps for the ipad and ipad mini. They often sport a better UI (such as an extra menu for faster switching between categories).
I would argue that it is precisely why Apple made phone apps appear like crap on the ipad, that drove developers to completely redesign their existing iphone apps. The end result are separate apps that both look and work great for the iphone and ipad.
Actually, it looks (and functions) just as good on my tablet as it does on my phone.
I see both sides of the argument...sorry. My bank only released the phone version of their app and not only does it look silly on my tablets but it doesn't work right on the tablets. Is that lazy or what?
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No it doesn't. Its a blown up phone. That's disgusting. I don't know how you can live with blown up phone apps.
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I don't know how return_0 lives with apps with the phone UI on such a big display.
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I haven't played with a 10" tablet since Jelly Bean came out other than for a few minutes at a time, but on a Nexus 7 I don't have any apps (i'm not a heavy app user, mostly tapatalk, hangouts, some games, maps, G+, etc) that look like they're "stretched out". The tools available for development allow you to make one app have different properties depending on what mode of device it is on, such as phone, phablet and tablet (I don't remember the exact categories) and you can see the emulator on whatever device you want. It's not hard anymore to make one app that is available for everything and works well on everything, self adjusting based on resolution and aspect ratio.
Usually when I hear about bad apps, it's like "Forbes, WeatherBug, The WSJ", etc. which are all apps I've never used, but I could understand if updating and optimizing their apps for small emerging markets wasn't a priority and they slacked off too much on it. Google's apps and other major players seem to have it more or less figured out.
That's not Apple. The developers have to do that. All the big Apps are scales for iPhone 5. What Apps were you using that wasn't scales 12 months after the 5 came out?
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You're too used to your iPad, I see. On Android, there isn't a "phone UI" on a big display; the UI actually scales well so that it's not a blown-up phone app.
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So you're saying I'm lying? Really? Wow.
My iPad does not have bad phone apps like your Nexus 7.
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Now now...surely you can find a less colorful adjective.
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He is pissing me off by saying that the iPad doesn't have optimised apps. That's a joke, a massive one because he doesn't seem to have used an iPad to make such a remark.
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The iPad for sure does, but I think he's saying that "optimized" is a different term in the Android vernacular, due to the development guidelines making it easier to have scalability and different layout options dependent on screen size. So the Nexus not having as many optimized apps is a meaningless term if the developers are doing things in the most efficient manner. Some good examples are G-Mail, Hangouts, Maps and Keep.
Actually, I should have said that a phone app is not for a tablet, and left out the BS part. Sorry.
I never said that. I just said that phone apps, which aren't optimized for the iPad, work horribly on it, while phone apps look and function much better on Android tablets because of the way they, by design, scale up properly.
I actually did use an iPad 2 for a year before switching to the N7, and I can say that using phone apps on it (of which there were many) was a terrible experience.
That's unacceptable IMO. Why should it take a full year for apps to not have huge areas of unused space on a major company's newest and only phone?
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