New 4.3 Camera UI / App

[JeffDenver]

So when you installed the 4.3 camera and gallery, did you install one apk or two apks?

One. The one APK installed separate Gallery and Camera apps.

The reason he has both is because you did not remove the 4.2.2 camera and gallery.

He can't remove it. He's on a stock GS3. My Rezound was rooted when I installed the ICS gallery. But It did not force me to uninstall the existing gallery and did not overwrite it.

On my Nexus 4, it DID overwrite my gallery/Camera app. Because (I assume) I am already vanilla android.

Edit: what I did to remove the original camera was rename the apk and odex file with .bak behind them.

You can remove them if you want, but it isn't necessary. On my Nexus it just overwrote what was there before, and on the GS3 it just installed alongside what was there before. It did not screw up anything on either phone.

I love the new camera so much...so nice to be able to take pictures with the volume rocker. And my fingers don't get in the way on the UI menus anymore.

 

[fernandezhjr]

you guys should be really careful when you get android 4.3. this might break the compatibility check when it tries to update(update might fail)

renaming system gallery app could cause this issue.

Not an issue for me. I have already done plenty of mods that it will fail anyways. I plan on flashing a rooted version of 4.3 in recovery and starting my mods all over again.

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[fernandezhjr]

One. The one APK installed separate Gallery and Camera apps.


He can't remove it. He's on a stock GS3. My Rezound was rooted when I installed the ICS gallery. But It did not force me to uninstall the existing gallery and did not overwrite it.

On my Nexus 4, it DID overwrite my gallery/Camera app. Because (I assume) I am already vanilla android.


You can remove them if you want, but it isn't necessary. On my Nexus it just overwrote what was there before, and on the GS3 it just installed alongside what was there before. It did not screw up anything on either phone.

I love the new camera so much...so nice to be able to take pictures with the volume rocker. And my fingers don't get in the way on the UI menus anymore.

The only way it would overwrite is if it installed as a system app. On my device, I have installed as a user app. Could you detail how you installed it on your N4. I did a normal apk install. I wanted to install as a system app but was reading trouble posts with that. I took the safer approach. Of course there were so many that were installing this on non stock devices it was hard to tell what would work and what would not.

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[JeffDenver]

The only way it would overwrite is if it installed as a system app. On my device, I have installed as a user app. Could you detail how you installed it on your N4.

Just like normal sideloading. I changed security settings to allow the APK to install, and then installed it. Nothing fancy.

I am not even sure how you would install it as a "system app". I have no idea how to even do that.

 

[fernandezhjr]

Just like normal sideloading. I changed security settings to allow the APK to install, and then installed it. Nothing fancy.

I am not even sure how you would install it as a "system app". I have no idea how to even do that.

Got it, so it is not overwritten, more like overriding.

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[return_0]

It overwrites the app on the N4 because it is the exact same app, only an updated version.

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[fernandezhjr]

It overwrites the app on the N4 because it is the exact same app, only an updated version.

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Sideloading installs it to data/app. The 4.2.2 version is installed in system/app. It can not overwrite if it is not being installed to the same location.

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[return_0]

Sideloading installs it to data/app. The 4.2.2 version is installed in system/app. It can not overwrite if it is not being installed to the same location.

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It installs as an update (which would overwrite the old version). Trust me; I've done it myself.

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[fernandezhjr]

It installs as an update (which would overwrite the old version). Trust me; I've done it myself.

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I did it myself as well. Did you check the locations I gave to see if it is in both locations? I had a similar situation with Quickoffice. It comes installed by the OEM and I already had the pro version. When I installed the pro version it just took over for the OEM version, despite them still both being installed. The OEM version in system/app and the pro version in data/app, no overwriting involved. You could also go to all apps in settings and see if Gallery is listed twice to find out. I have Quickoffice listed twice. Despite both versions being installed, only the pro version shows in the app drawer.

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[TheLibertarian]

Of course you had an idea. You're my biggest fan. You follow every post I make on here.

I am indeed. Some users need far more guidance than others; always here for you.

 

[JeffDenver]

I am indeed. Some users need far more guidance than others; always here for you.

I guess I should feel flattered that I give your life meaning.

 

[JeffDenver]

Got it, so it is not overwritten, more like overriding.

On the Nexus it will overwrite because it is the same app. On non-vanilla phones, it will install alongside whatever they use for camera/gallery.

Which is actually really cool. You can still mix and match and choose whatever you want as your default, just like with browsers. I love Android.

 

[fernandezhjr]

On the Nexus it will overwrite because it is the same app. On non-vanilla phones, it will install alongside whatever they use for camera/gallery.

Which is actually really cool. You can still mix and match and choose whatever you want as your default, just like with browsers. I love Android.

So are you saying on your phone it installed to system/app, instead of data/app?

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[return_0]

I did it myself as well. Did you check the locations I gave to see if it is in both locations? I had a similar situation with Quickoffice. It comes installed by the OEM and I already had the pro version. When I installed the pro version it just took over for the OEM version, despite them still both being installed. The OEM version in system/app and the pro version in data/app, no overwriting involved. You could also go to all apps in settings and see if Gallery is listed twice to find out. I have Quickoffice listed twice. Despite both versions being installed, only the pro version shows in the app drawer.

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[fernandezhjr]

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Thanks. Just to confirm, if you open the properties for gallery, does it give you the option to uninstall or the option to uninstall updates? Sorry for all the questions, but this may help me with the installation of something else.

Edit: I notice that your Gallery is 43mb, when mine is only 26mb. I wonder if you have both merged in some way.

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[fernandezhjr]

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[anon(847090)]

I think there is a great deal of confusion around if the app will install in system | data folder or will it overwrite!!

It depends if the new camera app is signed with different app name then it will show as two apps.

if it has the same name then installing the new camera apk will update the old one in N4.

also, updating a system app will install the updated apk on data/app but it will show only once.

 

[JeffDenver]

So are you saying on your phone it installed to system/app, instead of data/app?

I don't know where it is installing, but I only have one camera/gallery still. It did not duplicate the apps.

I am rooted but stock. So don't know if that has anything to do with it.

 

[Rizy7]

We are able to update system apps ourselves but the updates will not be installed in the system partition. The updates will be found in the same area as all the other apps that you download from the play store or install on your device. This is why we are able to uninstall updates (that we manually performed) on system apps until the version that is contained in the system partition.

 

[anon(847090)]

We are able to update system apps ourselves but the updates will not be installed in the system partition. The updates will be found in the same area as all the other apps that you download from the play store or install on your device. This is why we are able to uninstall updates (that we manually performed) on system apps until the version that is contained in the system partition.

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